If you live in New York state, you may have seen the poster above plastered on a bus shelter; or you may have seen it posted somewhere on the internet. The message is pretty simple, and it’s sad that it has to be said: kids are pretty impressionable, so teach your sons to treat women with basic respect.
The purpose of the ad campaign, sponsored by the New York state Office for the Prevention of Domestic Violence, is pretty clear as well: teaching boys respect for women lessens the chances that they will abuse women as adults.
Numerous studies have found that men with sexist attitudes towards women are more likely to try to control their wives or girlfriends with physical abuse. Indeed, one recent study even found that brief exposure to sexist jokes made men more inclined to brush off violence against women, at least amongst men with sexist attitudes to begin with.
Speaking of which, the sexist jokes over at A Voice for Men have unveiled a hilarious new “meme,” which just happens to be inspired by the “awaiting instructions” PSAs we’ve been discussing. And here it is:
The logic here is airtight: because some women get drunk and urinate in public, women don’t deserve respect.
I guess men never get drunk and urinate in public, or ever do anything vaguely embarrassing that gets caught on camera?
Is it really asking too much to respect people as people, foibles and all?
Definitely very relevant – MRAs CAN’T entertain the possibility other men don’t feel the same way they do, hence their insistence men who do express dissenting opinions from theirs are worthy of disdain (“manginas”) and have ulterior motives (poon, as it were).
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It would appear so, but actually, they’re ALWAYS pissed.
Thanks, Ally!
It’s always penis week with these losers, whether it’s their rageboners, the misandry of being expected to piss in the bowl and not on the floor, or dubious photos of women pissing. Is that photo even real? I’m not suggesting drunk women don’t take a leak in public, same as drunk men, but I wonder if it’s not posed …
This is absolutely spot on.
We also need to stop typing too fast because the blockquote monster loves that about us.
I think you might see a sight like that ?( 3 drunk women peeing ) maybe at a rave ? Or some sort of wild concert .
But I can’t imagine many “boys” happening upon a scene of “women” drunk, squat ,peeing in public. Let alone on any regular basis . Or if he knows “a” woman he has seen do something like that how that would cause him to lose respect for her let alone all women .
And that is what he said . “If a boy does not respect WOMEN” .
So then I guess if a “girl” happens upon or knows a “man” that she saw drunk pissing in a bush then I guess that justifies her not respecting “men” ?
Made me LOL.
marinerachel ,
Exactly. I’ve had one try to tell me in a comment section that my husband understands and agrees with MRAs, while my husband stood over my shoulder and laughed at his raving with me.
So I got curiouser and curiouser so I cropped the three women from the boy and did a Google search for similar images. Most of the sites that carry that image are not ones I wish to click on. But this was interesting, and gives a more detailed view of their surroundings:
http://thedirty.com/2012/05/dirty-australians/
They appear to be peeing in front of the office of something called the Family Relationship Center in Australia (I Googled the phone numbers in the signs). Any Aussies familiar with that organization? There’s a comment on the dirty’s page that says it’s an abortion clinic, but I don’t know whether it really is or not.
Weird.
Yes . If you try and say your husband does not agree with them ? Then they say he has taken the blue pill I think ? Or that his eyes are just shut and if it was pointed out to him he would “see it everywhere.”
“In the most misogynistic cultures women don’t even appear in public without being covered from head to toe, they don’t talk and they barely exist to serve every whim of their male relatives and yet they receive the most horrendous and violent treatment.”
This partly illuminates why d-bags like Elam feel enraged when asked to respect women.
They believe that women only deserve respect when they act “ladylike” — i.e., demurring, submissive to men, and under their control. The moment women (like those awful feminists, for example) throw off the shackles of submission, they are fair game for disrespect and abuse.
It bothers d-bags like Elam to no end that women can act like men, for better and for worse, and still require respect and protection from abuse. In their minds, women have either freedom or respect, but never both. It is an either-or trade-off, solidly entrenched in patriarchal minds which will never see women as full human beings deserving equal rights.
Grumpy Cat,
Who knows they could be pro lifers “peeing” in protest ? Someone in the corner of the picture is giving a “thumbs up” too.
That’s just it . There is no “lady like ” or “man like’ that isn’t a cultural construct .
Even if you look at little girls that naturally gravitate towards things supposedly “boy” then she is a “Tomboy” . She isn’t a person that just happens to enjoy and is good at fishing and likes to run barefoot through mud and isn’t afraid of bugs or critters . She collects bugs and looks and them under a microscope!
I think that first anonymous commenter on the dirty has fallen completely for the family=foetus dog whistle. Family Relationship Centres are government-funded facilities providing legal advice, counselling referrals, and various other kinds of useful information for existing, born families. Probably the kind of place an MRA would relish peeing on, actually, as an agent of the evil matriarchy (as we all know every democracy is a closet matriarchy with the evil ladies telling the dudes in power what to do!)
Maggie, sounds about right to me. Here’s the URL of the organization (also visible in the picture):
http://familylife.com.au/
Don’t see a word on there about abortion services. They do have something called MATES, described as a men’s behavior change group:
“Family Life provides specialist family violence services using a nationally recognised model involving a holistic family approach.
Within this context, the MATES program offers men the opportunity to learn and use alternatives to behaving in a violent or abusive manner.”
Yeah, MRAs aren’t going to like this place.
HOW ironic! And they said this would cause a “boy” to lose respect for women ? Teh women are PISSING on what sounds like a social service to help women!
I was there, these 3 women tried to urinate on a man, but they didn’t realize he was a self-respecting MRA guy who wouldn’t just knuckle under to that – so they urinated on a what was probably a man’s property instead. Why is that? Why are women always urinating on men?
Women are PISSERS!!! Thats why ! Disgusting!
This partly illuminates why d-bags like Elam feel enraged when asked to respect women.
They believe that women only deserve respect when they act “ladylike” — i.e., demurring, submissive to men, and under their control. The moment women (like those awful feminists, for example) throw off the shackles of submission, they are fair game for disrespect and abuse.
It bothers d-bags like Elam to no end that women can act like men, for better and for worse, and still require respect and protection from abuse. In their minds, women have either freedom or respect, but never both. It is an either-or trade-off, solidly entrenched in patriarchal minds which will never see women as full human beings deserving equal rights.
Yeah, problem is that none of those women are actually treated with respect for their submissiveness, they are treated inhumanly in those opressive societies. They are literally beaten into submission both physically and psychologically.
As for women requiring protection let’s be honest, women require protection from men mostly so the patriarch plays the role of both the protector and the threat, hmm how about no. Without patriarchy and misogyny women would require a lot less protection because there will be a lot less threat, it’s that simple.
OH: If men don’t want to be urinated on, they shouldn’t be out wearing urine-absorbent cloth.
Dunno. I’ve been trying to break the habit but it’s just so difficult. You know how it is: You hold out for a couple of days and then one day you just really have to go and there’s a man right there and the next thing you know…