So the nice gentlemen over on MGTOWforums are trying to get to the bottom of what they see as a very important question: Why Can’t They Ever Shut Up?
Unfortunately, they’re not asking this question about their fellow Men Going Their Own Way and their tendency to blather on and on about the manifold evils of women. No, they’re talking about women and their alleged inability to shut up. And they have some, well, interesting theories to share.
NonNegotiable offers these highly scientific thoughts:
I have a hypothesis that women possess a gland that produces mindless chatter, like the liver produces bile, and if they don’t constantly vent it, it builds up in their system & becomes toxic. The healthy venting of toxic chatter facilitated the invention of cell-phones & texting, allowing women to mindlessly chatter over great distances.
While men appreciate solitude, he explains, women can’t stand it:
In solitude & silence, most men can introspect and, should they come up against his own mortality & the ultimate futility of existence, can conclude, “I will rage against the dying of the light!”
In the same situation, women will be overcome with terror; they literally cannot be alone with their thoughts & will do whatever it takes to distract themselves from thinking about tomorrow, let alone their own mortality.
I should note that, despite the widespread belief that women talk a lot more than men, men and women actually are pretty much equal when it comes to the gift of the gab. The widely cited “fact” that men utter 7,000 words a day while women spout 20,000 seems to be nothing more than an urban myth; several meta-analyses of the actual studies out there suggest that men and women talk about the same amount.
But don’t tell the MGTOWers, because the inherent greater blabbiness of women is a subject they love, love, love to blab about. Here’s Octavian with his own extremely long-winded explanation for this thing that isn’t true:
Us men being men, we can’t think of an existence without some degree of tranquility.
Unfortunately, evolution has denied the understanding of that concept to women. Let us go back to why we men value solitude.It is because we can contemplate higher degrees of thought in that state.Thoughts on cosmic matters, justice,the state of our own lives, the lives of others, or the universe as a whole, can all she evaluated and discussed internally without a single word needing to be spoken.
But apparently thoughts on why women are awful need to be shared publicly, at great length.
Now, lets take a field trip into the mind of a female.Don your protective suits, because even though we’ll keep the trip short your mind might hurt from the experience.
To contemplate what goes on in the head of a woman, the image of an interstellar singularity comes to mind.A woman is biologically unable to comprehend the very thoughts we men prize and , innately ,take for granted.Contemplate a human intellect denied the ability to think, and you have the nature of a woman cornered.She cannot understand justice, she cannot grasp lives outside of her own, and she is unable to identify with any being besides herself.She can think, she can reason, but has no idea what to reason about.
Er, citation needed? Or, rather, ALL THE CITATIONS.
Her mind is therefore a black hole of consumption, materialism, and selfishness. If a woman thinks to herself for long, it’s like a computer trapped in a loop-she doesn’t know why things aren’t right, but she knows mentally what’s happening upstairs isn’t good.Add in this innate emptiness with the general fickle nature of women, and you have a brain incapable of positive reflection when left alone.
Unlike you guys, who obviously think only noble and uplifting and profound thoughts while you are sitting alone at home with your computer, and don’t just sit and stew about how much you hate the ladies.
That’s why us men are so critical for a woman’s mental health-without our centered mental natures, shes like an aircraft with no instruments flying through a thunderstorm, unaware of the mountain looming unseen in the gloom.
Yeah, the men of MGTOWforums are pretty much the epitome of “centered.”
So she has to talk.About SOMETHING .Or shell have to face her own empty nature without the means to understand it.It’s why those surveys say the biggest fear of a woman isn’t death, destitution, or poor health-it is being alone which frightens the female most.
Want to make a woman fall for you?It’s easy.Just distract her from herself as long as you can.The situation is so bleak women would rather be beaten to a pulp by a violent man then face being alone even briefly.
That’s right. He honestly believes that women sign up for domestic violence just so they can have someone to talk to between beatings.
Strong_hand, who presumably spends a lot of time alone with his hand, has a slightly different theory: It’s all a long con.
Women can’t do SHIT on their own. They need men to do things for them so they can indulge in consumption, materialism and selfishness.
Just as babies have only one power, crying, women have only one power: talking. You can count pussy/SMV as another power but it’s available to them for only about 20 years max. They talk to get INFORMATION that they can use to manipulate men to get them to do the things noted above.
Ask yourself, can they do anything EXCEPT talk someone into doing real work for them? Regardless of how well she can clean the house, at the end of the day, some MEN built the house and MEN do all of the real maintenance on it. Even with the massive technological advancements, most of the real work that enables modern society to function is done by men.
This is why they hate “the silent treatment.” It deprives them of the only power they have: to interrogate, probe, trade information and push buttons until they get every last bit of information they want & need.
They will NEVER shut up. This would be giving up the only power they have. Why should they bother to think, anyway, when they can talk men into doing all the hard work of thinking and acting on that thinking?
Do men like this actually believe this crap? Women are half the workforce. How exactly does someone go about their life or their career in contemporary America without seeing ample evidence, on a daily basis, of women working as hard as men? Does he live in some weird boys-only STEM clubhouse?
CaniGhost, meanwhile, thinks that women are just copying men, without really understanding what talking is for:
We know that women largely emulate men (they mirror you to get you into a relationship). Women may watch – from a young age – men talking and enjoying the talk between one another. Two grown men. But unknown to her, the men enjoy the chat because they are exchanging ideas and value. To the girl, she sees just chatter. She grows up emulating that, believing that men like chatter.
Because women lack an ability to contribute or do actual work, all chatter for them is without value or weight. All chatter is equal chatter in their mind.
Thus they chat to (in their mind) because men enjoy it.
Well, you have to give him points for creativity.
I would say more, but as a man I am naturally laconic.
Well, in this case I’m actually just dumbfounded.
Oh drat …
This is precious: “Let us go back to why we men value solitude.It is because we can contemplate higher degrees of thought in that state.Thoughts on cosmic matters, justice,the state of our own lives, the lives of others, or the universe as a whole, can all she evaluated and discussed internally without a single word needing to be spoken.”
With the added bonus of no one ever disagreeing with you ever about anything.
“I value solitude” is a nice way to say “I don’t have any friends and nobody wants to date me either”, isn’t it? I salute his ability to deceive himself.
(Shame he’s not fooling anyone else.)
Completely OT, but this made me laugh and there’s some other former goths here will appreciate this:
Oh geez that looks all too familiar! 😀
Oh, timely for the Goth bit: I’ve got my hair black again. The brown was losing the fight against fading.
You know, for all their bluster about being all logical, reasonable, and scientific, they are actually none of those things, at all. If they were to posit ideas or submit papers with the same amount of “reasoning” they show here in any high-level STEM course, they would be laughed out of the room. I just don’t get how they can claim to be so scientific and still (seriously) post such utter nonsense.
Middle Ages beckon! Or maybe even antiquity? Those fellas were born waaaay too late for their own good.
Anyone care to count how many words and how much time they wasted on that mindless blabber? Why, oh why don’t they just shut the eff up? (That’s what one would wonder deeply in her ponderous solitude, if one had nothing better to do.)
BTW, apparently “rage against the dying of the light” involves exposing one’s stupidity to the world-at-large in 1,000 words or more.
Say what you want, my fellow Manboobers, but this is hilarious stuff. Disturbing, yes, but also funny as hell.
They value solitude and introspection so much that they have to all get together online and tell each other about how much they value solitude and introspection.
I really, really, REALLY wanted to respond to each and every one of those mangry pull-quotes with a pithy comeback. But honest to Goddess…after the first two or three, my eyes just started to glaze over, and all I could hear was a ragey, meaningless BLARBLARRBLARRRBLARRRR. In one ear and out the other is the best place for that sort of thing…
I’m sure the irony of everything they’ve just said totally eludes them, as usual. Fucking blatherskites.
(waves hello to all fellow introverts, of all genders)
ME TOO!!! I went with “dark brown” instead of “medium” ! Its more befitting of me!
Y’know…when I read that, all I can think about is the bit of Apollo 13 where Tom Hanks (as Jim Lovell) is talking about the time he was caught in a storm in a plane without any instruments, and actually that worked to his favour because he was able to see the bio-luminescent plankton on the ocean which guided him home.
It’s like the whole tree falling in the woods and does it make a sound thing, but with whiny assholes instead of trees.
Lets make a news article about how private and alone we like to be.
lana – cool! I was darkest brown (almost like a warm black) but between my hair being about half grey now, and the strong sun at this time of year, the fading on top was just too much – it was almost brassy. My hairdresser added a little pure black to the mix this time and it’s much darker. Not the blue-black of my goth days, but really dark.
It’ll prolly look like a white stripe down the middle once the regrowth hits. 😛
Is there anyone who believes that there are women who actually want to talk to these dim bulbs at all, much less chat with them at length?
I meant that I tried tracing CaniGhost’s logic and my finger kept moving in circles.
lea – maybe they’re pissed off because women are enjoying talking to each other instead of listening to the
endless whiningdeep and meaningful thoughts from MWNDGTOW*.*men who never do go their own way
While it’s been a very long time since I read Thoreau, IIRC he valued solitude and introspection without turning his brain into a one member He Man Women Haters Club. These guys understand the life of the mind about as well as they understand women.
I’m curious if any of the MGTOWers quoted in the OP have engaged in anything resembling self-reflection and/or self-examination. I’m guessing no.
@Brooked: I know, right. That’s the thing I always find so hilarious with the MGTOW/PUA/MRA nonsense about ‘men are better at introspection.’ Like, all evidence to the contrary.
I just learned “blatherskite” is a word and I’m already more than a little in love with it. Thanks Bina!
Thoreau was totes a mangina. No doubt about it – he liked nature stuff, after all.
You’re welcome!
And ironically, I first saw it used in the following sentence: “Blatherskite wimmin!” Uttered by some old salty dog in a yo-ho-ho pirate yarn. As I recall, the old poop was one of those who could never stop talking himself…
Only if wanking in front of a mirror counts.
While the dudes are busy blabbing about how oppwessed they are, let’s hear from the women of Central America.
(Trigger warning: Murder. And lots of it.)