Here are some of the things Paul Elam of A Voice for Mens has said in the past that the $80,000 plus in donations his site aims to take in every year go to:
Dedicated servers, image royalties, legal fees, internet radio premiums, various kinds of computer and media hardware — and now traveling to different locations, like Toronto, in order to do what has been in the plans all along.
Here are a few things Elam has not said the donations have been going to:
Buying him sandwiches. Paying for the down payment on a condo. Paying his cable bill. Paying for DVD rentals. Buying tasteful framed art for the walls and tchotchkes for the end tables. Buying him suits for his big important media interviews.
Well, now he’s fessed up — sort of.
After a bit of a kerfuffle about financial transparency in his site’s comments section, Elam has finally admitted what a lot of us have been assuming but that he’s been loath to admit: that he’s been living off of his supporters’ donations — and a generous girlfriend. As he explained in a post yesterday:
Donations are used to meet my personal living expenses (with the help of a supportive partner), especially as I have not yet figured out a way to do this 14-16 hours a day and also hold a full time job.
Was that so hard to admit? Apparently it was, so hard, in fact, that he chose to admit it in the quietly evasive passive voice, so as to symbolically avoid responsibility for taking his donors’ money even as he acknowledged that this was what he was doing.
Now, is there anything wrong with making a living, or a part of a living, off of a “donate button” on a web page? Of course not. I have a donate button, and I run regular fundraisers; all of the money I collect — which I greatly appreciate, though it is only a small fraction of what AVFM takes in — goes directly to me, as I’ve always made clear.
Is it wrong for activists to make a living off of their activism? No. Plenty do, though few live lavishly. Most serious activist organizations depend both on paid staff and volunteers.
But I think there are two problems with what Elam has done.
The first is that he’s basically been fundraising under false pretenses, claiming that the money was going for various other costs and never — until now — admitting that a chunk of the money was going directly to him. He still won’t say what percentage of the money goes to him — and his silence on this point suggests to me that it is probably a large one.
His unwillingness to offer any real transparency beyond admitting that some of the money goes to him seems a tad, well, ironic in light of his site’s bad-mouthing of former AVFM-er Kristina Hansen for her alleged lack of transparency with regard to a much smaller sum of donated money.
The second big problem is the hypocrisy. Elam has been essentially urging his followers to adopt vows of poverty in order to devote more money to AVFM — and thus to him. He’s bragged, on several occasions, about getting $100 donations taken from a donor’s unemployment checks.
And in one notorious post, he literally offered a big “fuck you” to men who came to AVFM seeking help, telling them explicitly to “go fucking bother someone else with your problems” — if they hadn’t already offered help to AVFM by hitting the donate button.
I am tired of seeing a handful of men and women fight for a cause that should include millions. I am tired of seeing a comparative handful of men and women cough up the lion’s share of financial assistance when most, even some who come here every day to read and cheer on FTSU, won’t cough up five fucking dollars to help us out; who are just fine as long as none of the burden, even a trivial part of it, is on them.
After a bit more ranting, he offered this advice:
If you want things to change, then stock up on Ramen, get cozy in your studio apartment and join us in the fight to fix this shit. Don’t ask us to help you, but rather give your life the only meaning it may have left, as someone ready and willing to turn your meager existence into helping others who have been similarly screwed over.
Emphasis mine in both quotes.
Apparently the main “other” that doners have been helping has been Elam himself.
And as far as I can tell Elam hasn’t exactly taken his own vow of poverty. The photo at the top of the post is a partial screenshot from a recent AVFM video, which evidently shows Elam at home. To me, that doesn’t look much like the bleak studio apartment of a man living a “meager existence” on Ramen noodles.
Still, if there are men out there who want to send in hundreds of dollars from their unemployment checks to support Paul Elam in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed, that is their right, I suppose. They should just be aware that’s what they’re doing when they donate to AVFM.
NOTE: I should make clear that I don’t know what exactly Elam has spent his donors’ money on. It is possible that he has not spent any of his donors’ money on sandwiches, condos, cable bills, DVDs, art, tchotchkes, or suits. Those were just guesses. As for me, I do spend some of the money I get from donors on sandwiches, rent, cable bills, Netflix, and of course cat food.
Ok, this is really late, but I can understanding how criticizing Elam in particular for being a parasite isn’t the same as shaming people who are financially dependent on others. It’s just that my mom is a stay-at-home mom and I never thought of her as a “parasite” because of being dependent on my step-dad, so my reaction was kind of premature.
They’re sort of like the anti-aging product industry, aren’t they? They manufacture bogus discontent all over the place: “Slop this goop on your face to get rid of those denty things between your eyebrows! Dye your hair and bleach your teeth for extended youth!” Meanwhile, the real solution to the “age problem” lies elsewhere. And the only real anti-aging product that works is sunscreen.
Same thing with feminism. They manufacture anti-feminist crankitude, then make out like they’re its Botox. Meanwhile, the hoary old snake-oil metaphor applies…
Come to think of it, the saps who donate to Paulie would be better off with snake oil. It’s pointless crap too, but at least you get a cute old-fashioned brown bottle to display on your mantelpiece.
I wonder too …IF he is spending “14-16” hours a day on the “cause” exactly when is any time for romance ? Or for her to steal his sperm or falsely accuse him of rape ? If he starts at 7am and lets go in the middle 15 hours .He’s “working for the cause” from 7am until 10 pm every day . AND he isn’t even bringing in minimum wage(for himself) according to his rant .
Wow …he sounds like a really great catch . Bitching about how evil women are all day long for 16 hours ..not even pulling in minimum wage while she pays the bills .Also who is cleaning the house and cooking ?Grocery shopping ?
I smell a fish .Either he is lying and he doesn’t have a “significant other ” (unless maybe its his mom that he lives with ?) Or he spends a LOT less time on the “cause” and takes home a lot more money than he leads on .
I’m guessing she has, if he has the gall to boast that she’s not a feminist. I’m just amazed that anyone out there would look at THAT face and consider it worth waking up to in the mornings. I look at his features and see an anus about to have a blowout. Oh well…de gustibus non disputandum, etc.
Yeah, I smell bullshit there. Considering that the “cause” consists mainly of whining, wanking, half-assed plotting, occasional shitty-art contests, copious internet diarrhea (4-6 hours a day, maybe, but 14-16? Puhleeeze) more whining and more wanking, I’d say that Paulie is busy mainly with just not bothering to go out in the world and doing something productive. Compared to most whiny lazy wankers, though, he sure has a nice looking place to live in.
“Or he spends a LOT less time on the “cause” and takes home a lot more money than he leads on .”
This. I put in, at most, 3 hours a day on the Borg now that the theme is done. But that’s when I do a string of brain bleach for the queue. So the next week it’s under 15 min daily. Now, the posts I did that required actual academic research did take a couple hours, but Elam doesn’t do anything like 4+ of those a day.
Argenti and everyone else involved in FemBorg, I’m sorry for not writing much. For various reasons, I don’t have much energy to write anything but paragraphs in which I vent about my feelings. I’ll definitely write some articles pertaining to the current theme, but I can’t do so right away.
Ally — no worries, pecunium’s post is absurdly popular, and we’ve got two in the queue on the theme already, so we’re good until the end of next week. (No worries in general, I totally get not having the energy to deal with things, but really don’t worry about it currently)
If you want, you can run another edit on my draft, pecunium went over it already, but he knows the story so idk if the logic flows without knowing what I’m talking about. No pressure, at all, I trust his editing skills, but if you want to do something for the Borg, you can do that. Or check the calendar and schedule brain bleach for where I left off.
Ack, please don’t take that as things you must do, or even should do, but rather simple things you could do if you want.
Even if he was putting in 14-16 hours for real (and, honestly, we don’t know), that would simply show that he was not a very good worker, since he’s still only producing an amount that anyone else could produce in a couple of hours. Nobody else is required to subsidize his inefficiency.
Popping in with brain bleach.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/vogonpoetry/lettergen.shtml
Also, I broke my ass. Send opiates and hugs. If unable to send both, send opiates.
katz, “Even if he was putting in 14-16 hours for real (and, honestly, we don’t know), that would simply show that he was not a very good worker, since he’s still only producing an amount that anyone else could produce in a couple of hours.”
I don’t know about that. Fiction is hard. Fantasy even harder.
No opiates to hand here, alas…but hugs to anyone in need!
LOL
Fair enough. I’ve spent the past couple of days debating which bit of a carburetor ought to break; I’m sure he puts all kinds of time into determining whether women have Syrian or Roborovski hamsters. (Answer: Roborovski, obviously.)
Oh, that poor hamster! She (must be a she, obv) looked so dizzy afterwards.
I meant ‘I smell a rat” or “something smells fishy ” LOL!! I said “I smell a fish.” I combined to sayings!
But yeah even at 14-16 hours a day and all he has to offer is to tell men who are hurting but “fuck you .” ? Here is my advice “get some knee pads ” (I think he said lube too) and take it ?
Oh here it is later he said “take it ” because these same guys wont cough up $5 and they never helped before it happened to them .
Wow..what an expert! Definitely worth $5 to be advised.
Listen ! Im the expert ! I spend 16 hours a day and 80,000 a year on this cause ? And YOU are emailing ME telling me your story I can not EXPLOIT! (did ya’ll read that part ?guys telling him sob stories he can’t even exploit for media attention ?) JOIN the club get used to it nothing can be done you’re FUCKED !
Please pay the cashier your donation of $5.00 …come again soon !
Huh, based on the writing style I figured Fidelbogen was at least 80.
(And yep, a serial killer. Any horror movie producers need someone who’ll work for free and have no problem simulating rage?)
Here it is …Shivers…
And the link to the article will say “fuck you .”
He definitely has a Charles Manson way about him .He even kind of looks like him .
If Elam is the MRM’s angry dad then Fidelbogen is its Unabomber.
$5 for that? Hell, Lucy gave better advice for a nickel when she sat at her lemonade stand labelled “The Doctor Is In”.
Or possibly its Green River Killer. Is he one of the ones who particularly hates “sluts”, ie women who have ever had sex that wasn’t with him?
I think that’s what’s going on with the coat and hat though. He thinks of himself as a freedom fighter who’s in danger from a repressive government that’s out to get him, hence the need for a disguise. It’s activist cosplay.
Cassandra — at a rough guess, from my binge of serial killer documentaries, that’s about half of them, if you include ones just pissed at women in general. Then you have the violent psychopaths, thrill killers, sadists, cults like Manson, pedophiles, and some who kill just for money. A large chunk hate women for some reason or another though, and the sadists tend to target women.
Note, this is not taken from a study, but having watched WAY too many documentaries on serial killers lately. (Depressed me = morbid me.)