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A Voice for Men’s Paul Elam finally admits that he’s been pocketing an unspecified chunk of site donations

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Here are some of the things Paul Elam of A Voice for Mens has said in the past that the $80,000 plus in donations his site aims to take in every year go to:

Dedicated servers, image royalties, legal fees, internet radio premiums, various kinds of computer and media hardware — and now traveling to different locations, like Toronto, in order to do what has been in the plans all along.

Here are a few things Elam has not said the donations have been going to:

Buying him sandwiches. Paying for the down payment on a condo. Paying his cable bill. Paying for DVD rentals. Buying tasteful framed art for the walls and tchotchkes for the end tables. Buying him suits for his big important media interviews.

Well, now he’s fessed up — sort of.

After a bit of a kerfuffle about financial transparency in his site’s comments section, Elam has finally admitted what a lot of us have been assuming but that he’s been loath to admit: that he’s been living off of his supporters’ donations — and a generous girlfriend. As he explained in a post yesterday:

Donations are used to meet my personal living expenses (with the help of a supportive partner), especially as I have not yet figured out a way to do this 14-16 hours a day and also hold a full time job.

Was that so hard to admit? Apparently it was, so hard, in fact, that he chose to admit it in the quietly evasive passive voice, so as to symbolically avoid responsibility for taking his donors’ money even as he acknowledged that this was what he was doing.

Now, is there anything wrong with making a living, or a part of a living, off of a “donate button” on a web page? Of course not. I have a donate button, and I run regular fundraisers; all of the money I collect — which I greatly appreciate, though it is only a small fraction of what AVFM takes in — goes directly to me, as I’ve always made clear.

Is it wrong for activists to make a living off of their activism? No. Plenty do, though few live lavishly. Most serious activist organizations depend both on paid staff and volunteers.

But I think there are two problems with what Elam has done.

The first is that he’s basically been fundraising under false pretenses, claiming that the money was going for various other costs and never — until now — admitting that a chunk of the money was going directly to him. He still won’t say what percentage of the money goes to him — and his silence on this point suggests to me that it is probably a large one.

His unwillingness to offer any real transparency beyond admitting that some of the money goes to him seems a tad, well, ironic in light of his site’s bad-mouthing of former AVFM-er Kristina Hansen for her alleged lack of transparency with regard to a much smaller sum of donated money.

The second big problem is the hypocrisy. Elam has been essentially urging his followers to adopt vows of poverty in order to devote more money to AVFM — and thus to him. He’s bragged, on several occasions, about getting $100 donations taken from a donor’s unemployment checks.

And in one notorious post, he literally offered a big “fuck you” to men who came to AVFM seeking help, telling them explicitly to “go fucking bother someone else with your problems” — if they hadn’t already offered help to AVFM by hitting the donate button.

I am tired of seeing a handful of men and women fight for a cause that should include millions. I am tired of seeing a comparative handful of men and women cough up the lion’s share of financial assistance when most, even some who come here every day to read and cheer on FTSU, won’t cough up five fucking dollars to help us out; who are just fine as long as none of the burden, even a trivial part of it, is on them.

After a bit more ranting, he offered this advice:

If you want things to change, then stock up on Ramen, get cozy in your studio apartment and join us in the fight to fix this shit. Don’t ask us to help you, but rather give your life the only meaning it may have left, as someone ready and willing to turn your meager existence into helping others who have been similarly screwed over.

Emphasis mine in both quotes.

Apparently the main “other” that doners have been helping has been Elam himself.

And as far as I can tell Elam hasn’t exactly taken his own vow of poverty. The photo at the top of the post is a partial screenshot from a recent AVFM video, which evidently shows Elam at home. To me, that doesn’t look much like the bleak studio apartment of a man living a “meager existence” on Ramen noodles.

Still, if there are men out there who want to send in hundreds of dollars from their unemployment checks to support Paul Elam in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed, that is their right, I suppose. They should just be aware that’s what they’re doing when they donate to AVFM.

NOTE: I should make clear that I don’t know what exactly Elam has spent his donors’ money on. It is possible that he has not spent any of his donors’ money on sandwiches, condos, cable bills, DVDs, art, tchotchkes, or suits. Those were just guesses. As for me, I do spend some of the money I get from donors on sandwiches, rent, cable bills, Netflix, and of course cat food.

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CassandraSays
10 years ago

@ emilygoddess

Shakesville pulled this shit too?

katz
10 years ago

Lining your pockets also wouldn’t require that much money. I mean, you could line a pair of jeans with eight $1 bills, 16 if you wanted to be really thorough.

Bina
10 years ago

So, Stacy is “not a feminist”? Don’t worry, Paulie, she WILL be…when she’s had enough of your shit.

kittehserf
10 years ago

If you used our polymer notes the lining would be a bit more water-resistant. More colourful, too.

Hey, Spleeny, how ya been? Is that a DROP BEAR I see in your gravatar? 😉

katz
10 years ago

Australian currency would be far superior to American currency for this purpose, both because of the convenient variety of sizes and the color-matching possibilities.

nalahverdian
10 years ago

And what about your donations and advertisements?

katz
10 years ago

Wee skinny jeans? Line ’em with ones! Big baggy cargo pants? Pull out the hundreds!

thebewilderness
10 years ago

We have a local guy who owns a telemarketing business and just happens to also run a cancer “charity”. You will not be surprised to hear that the telemarketers raise funds for the “charity” which then pays the telemarketing business. Being a grifter is not illegal when you do it like that.
I would imagine that is the sort of grift Elam is running.

SpleenyBaggage
SpleenyBaggage
10 years ago

I’ve been well, Kitteh. Yourself? And yes, I believe it IS a drop bear… the sneakier, deadlier cousin of the koala “bear”.

Seranvali
Seranvali
10 years ago

I find it astonishing that someone who calls himself a men’s human rights activist would rant because men who, (according to his own delusions) are broke after paying legal fees and child support because they can’t make a substantial donation to his lifestyle. To me that whole rant shows him to be a fraud. If men are being so badly treated by the family court one would think that a genuine advocate and activist would be in there like Flynn, donations or no donations.

Also, in Australia, where I live, it’s illegal to solicit or accept donations from someone who is unemployed. Is it the same in America? If so, maybe someone should report him and pass on copies of his posts about that particular donation.

And living with his girlfriend and letting her pay the bills while he rants online…*pinches bridge of nose*. Someone really needs to tell him about reciprocity.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

I don’t think he believes the drivel he spouts about the money going to the movement.

Alternate hypothesis: he actually believes that the MRM would be lost without him and AVfM, that he essentially is the movement.

After hearing all those MRAs who screeched & whined about Anita Sarkeesian being a fraud who ‘lined her pockets’…

IKR? I’d love to see their hamsters run hear their explanations for this double standard.

Shakesville pulled this shit too?

Not Melissa herself, but yeah: “Infamously, co-blogger Paul the Spud once encouraged a woman who was down to her last $5 in child support to contribute that money to Shakesville, saying, ‘No amount is too small.'” (click through for links)

CassandraSays
10 years ago

@ emilygoddess

Wow, classy. Also this is the first time I’m reading the “Brave is racist against Scottish people, and possibly redheads” thread in detail and again, wow.

BTW, the will o’ the wisp, part of the “look, magic, which is really offensive” thing she’s complaining about? Is something that Scottish children still grow up with. I could have told you all about will o’ the wisps when I was 5.

kittehserf
10 years ago

emilygoddess – I’ll give Elam this much: he’s a movement.

Spleeny, I’ve been pretty good! On my last day of a week off and enjoying the cool weather we’ve been having down south. Remind me, are you further north? I’m guessing you’re getting some serious heat, if so.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Cassandra: That thread is a treasure trove of bullshit. My favorite part of the whole thing is where she admits she hasn’t even seen the fucking movie.

I saw it, and as a person who’s of Scottish ancestry, I wasn’t offended.

Quackers
Quackers
10 years ago

So a guy who runs a site which regularly rants about how women are leeches off of men and society (ie welfare), turns out to be leeching off of his girlfriend and followers.

Disgusting hypocrite.

CassandraSays
10 years ago

Did she bother to talk to anyone who was, you know, actually from Scotland? Or even more ambitiously, anyone who lives there? If I’d know that conversation was going on I’d have sent my granny a link so she could go tell them how silly they were being.

(Guess where I inherited the take-no-bullshit personality from?)

(But wait! My hair isn’t red any more! I’m not sure if I’m being a stereotype or not.)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Cassandra — her husband was born there, so I imagine she did. Whether he saw the movie though…

“Also, in Australia, where I live, it’s illegal to solicit or accept donations from someone who is unemployed. Is it the same in America?”

*dies of laughter* no. We’re more than happy to solicit anyone here. But not if you’re homeless, then soliciting can get you arrested. And to disagree is unpatrotic, communist, etc, depending how “patriotic” the cranky person is.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Well, you know, she’s married to a Scottish guy, therefore she knows what every Scots thinks. I don’t remember if her husband was offended or if she took that on for him.

Ooooh, Comment From a Scottish Granny would be an excellent thing here for trolls.

Bina
10 years ago

Also, in Australia, where I live, it’s illegal to solicit or accept donations from someone who is unemployed. Is it the same in America? If so, maybe someone should report him and pass on copies of his posts about that particular donation.

Sadly, no. If it were, televangelists wouldn’t exist. Or Republicans.

Bina
10 years ago

I’ll give Elam this much: he’s a movement.

Of the bowel kind, yes.

kittehserf
10 years ago

(But wait! My hair isn’t red any more! I’m not sure if I’m being a stereotype or not.)

OMG colouring your hair means you’re trying to get passing privilege so people won’t think you’re a ginger-haired Scot! Oh the shame!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Bina – my thought exactly. 😉

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

Scottish Grannies are good for shutting down all kinds of shenanigans.

CassandraSays
10 years ago

I think my granny would make most MRAs pee their pants in terror. Mr C of course thinks she’s wonderful, partly because she greeted him with a big hug the first time she met him.