Attention pretty high school girls! If a nerdy looking dude in your school shows up one day loaded with guns and Molotov cocktails and starts shooting up the place, it’s actually your fault, for not sleeping with him.
That, in any case, is the argument of a recent post on pickup guru Roosh V’s repulsive Return of Kings blog. In a post titled Why Did Karl Halverson Pierson Attack His School And Kill A Pretty Girl? guest blogger Billy Chubbs looks at a recent shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado, throwing out the few bits of information we do have about the shooter and making up a story of his own.
On December 13 2013, Karl Halverson Pierson walked into his high school with a gun, wounded a fellow student named Claire Davis and then killed himself. The assumed motive was Karl’s anger toward a teacher at the high school but others in the mainstream media posited their own theories as to the reasons behind the shooting. The usual suspects were called out to blame: prescription drugs, mental illness, gun control, etc. … One theory that was noticeably absent from the ‘experts’ who reported on the situation, however, was Karl’s probable sexual frustration.
His proof? The fact that the girl he managed to shoot and mortally wound before killing himself was quite conventionally attractive. Chubbs posts pictures of the shooter and the girl he shot, who subsequently died:
What do you notice right away? Karl’s not a stunningly handsome dude and Claire is a smoke show. As of this writing, there’s not much information on Karl’s sexual history. It’s doubtful that Karl had a girlfriend, and it’s likely that he was a virgin.
Chubbs makes clear that even if he’s completely wrong about all this, he’s not going to let mere facts stand in the way of his theory.
By the way, if further details are released in the future which discredit my assumptions, well, ignore the Karl parts of this article obviously. Yet even if I’m wrong in my assumptions of Karl’s life, the basic gist of this article is right and does apply to the majority of normally peaceful men who suddenly turn violent and perpetrate these tragedies.
And so he moves on to state what he considers his very brave thesis:
Return Of Kings has touched on this subject before, but since the cowardly and narrow minded mainstream media refuses to even consider positing such a theory, it’s up to us ROK truth sayers to repeat ad nauseum such observations: women’s selfishness makes men kill.
And by “selfishness” Chubbs means their unwillingness to shower sex on all men.
What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.
If by “sure thing” you mean “completely wrong,” then yes. There’s no evidence to back up the oft-repeated manosphere myth that women are having sex with only a small percentage of men. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of adult men are having at least occasional sex. According to one recent survey of American sexual behavior, some 86% of men said they’d had sex in the past year; only 70% of women said the same.
In our society today, there are hundreds of thousands of young men with insatiable sex drives who are receiving little to no sex from their female peers—not even the less attractive women whom traditionally would be paired off with less attractive men.
Wait, someone on Return of Kings is suggesting that it might be acceptable for a man to date a “less attractive woman?” The sort of woman that Roosh and Return of Kings routinely ridicule, and ridicule men for dating?
Chubbs wants to have it both ways. He wants to play at being an alpha male, but he also wants the privileges of victimhood as a poor, oppressed beta. Indeed, in his bio, he describes himself, paradoxically, as a “bipolar, optimistic Alpha male who truly believes that Beta chumps like himself are doomed in today’s politically correct utopia.” Alpha or beta: which is it, dude?
In his post, he postures as an alpha even while recounting his own story of beta victimhood:
Life without sex is a horrible experience, especially when you’re a young man. Although I get laid consistently, I have gone long stretches without any sort of sexual contact with women.
Well, that kind of sucks, dude, but, you know, welcome to life. Sometimes life sucks.
It was gruelling.
No, the Bataan Death March was gruelling. You had a dry spell. I’ve had dry spells. Everyone else I know has had dry spells. Virtually everyone in the world has dry spells. They can be really rough. But they’re not a fucking human rights violation.
My unfulfilled sex drive made me jack off on average three times a day—four or more on gym days when I upped my testosterone level.
OH NO YOU WERE FORCED TO MASTURBATE
NEWS FLASH: Women aren’t obligated to jump on your stick every time you get a boner.
For the vast majority of men their sex life is a central part of their character and a major part of their motivation for all aspects of their life. If men are barred from it (whether they actually are or merely feel that they are) for whatever reason, they feel little incentive for anything else; even if that incentive is to not go crazy and shoot people.
Wait, how did we get from, boo hoo I have to masturbate to, well I might as well just kill a bunch of people?
Karl wanted to have sex, and just by looking at him it’s obvious he wasn’t getting much, or any. Claire is a beautiful young woman and is doubtlessly the object of affection for many young men who know her, including lonely and sexually frustrated ones. Karl was certainly amongst them. Karl had no chance to ever be with her and he knew it. And that’s why he encountered her in his school, armed with a gun, he turned it against her.
So it’s her fault for getting shot by a dude because she didn’t fuck him?
Am I saying Claire should have known better and had sex with Karl in advance? No. Claire was for all intents and purposes (looks, status, wealth) far out of Karl’s league. Yet there’s little doubt that there were many, many women in Karl’s high school who were in his league.
Oh, so it was some other girl’s fault that Claire got shot, because this other girl didn’t fuck him.
So why wasn’t Karl at home relieving his sexual frustrations with a girlfriend on par with his looks instead of simmering in anger alone, writing typical angry teenaged political messages on his Facebook and purchasing guns? It is because the inherent selfishness of all women has been allowed to run rampant in our Western societies.
How is it selfish for women to choose who they want to have sex with? No one is obligated to have sex with anyone they don’t want to have sex with.
Women whose level of physical looks give them no right to be picky are allowed to chase after the upper tiers of men with no shame while men who are just as, or perhaps even a little more, attractive then themselves are forced to remain virgins into their twenties and are forced to wait until women’s looks begin to fade around the age of twenty-six before being given the chance to enter into a relationship with them.
What the fucking hell? What planet are you living on and how on earth, even if this were true, does this justify murder?
Also: there is no epidemic of American men “forced to remain virgins into their twenties” by evil women. Indeed, the average American male loses his virginity just shy of age 17, slightly earlier than the average American female.
And even then, the relationship is a farce. The woman has only entered it out of desperation since all the upper echelons of sexually enticing men who used to have sex with her have cast her off and she is emotionally damaged by her selfish experiences.
Really? This little narrative describes the life of precisely zero women I have ever met.
What future did Karl have to look forward to? Working a mediocre job (if he could even get one), living in a society that does not look out for him or his interests in the slightest (while often ridiculing the people like him in the media – when not actively selling out his future) and having to wait until he was twenty-five or older before being able to enter into a sexually satisfying relationship with a woman on par with his looks (who would be incapable of actually loving him by that point due to her dozens of sexual partners)?
NONE OF THIS IS TRUE WHY DO YOU GUYS PRETEND THAT IT IS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU I DON’T EVEN
Young men like Karl – who aren’t blessed with looks, or exorbitant wealth, or the top tier social skills of the small percentage of men who are getting laid – have been left in the dust by our female-centric, uncaring societies.
IT’S NOT JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF MEN WHO ARE HAVING SEX WHERE DO YOU GET THIS SHIT ITS NOT TRUE WHY DO YOU
And society does not care until men like him pick up a gun and starts shooting.
And now we come to the blackmail portion of the rant: Sleep with us or we’ll kill you!
The assumed catalyst as to why Karl went on the rampage was that he was demoted by a teacher in charge of the debate team, and that this caused murderous frustration in him. Do you think Karl would have had so much murderous frustration if he was receiving as little as a blowjob every so often?
All he wanted was a blowjob! It is the sacred duty of every high school girl to seek out high school boys with the greatest surplus of murderous frustration and ease this frustration with sex.
So long as society encourages women of all ages to be the inherently promiscuous creatures they are and allow them to limit their sexual choices to the men at the top of the pyramid (when many of them have no right to), sexually frustrated men will continue to lash out with extreme violence.
Wait, so after demanding that women be more promiscuous, you’re berating them for being promiscuous?
Not that I’m surprised in the slightest.
The Columbine’s will continue. The Sandy Hook’s will continue. The Arapahoe’s will continue. Until society sits down and thinks over these problems with an unclouded mind, men will continue the shootings. More people will die just so Jane Doe can continue to ‘explore’ her sexuality until she hits the wall.
So young men should be guaranteed sex — OR ELSE THEY’LL SHOOT YOU — but young women are somehow evil for having sex with men who aren’t murderously frustrated nerds?
Of course, it’s always easier to scream, “PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! GUN CONTROL MENTAL ILLNESS!” and ignore the root of the problem and twiddle one’s thumbs until the next shooting. For many men, hundreds of thousands of them, they live in a mentally ill society. It’s a testament to either their humanity or their cowardice that more of them do not lash out like this.
And it’s a testament to your lack of humanity that you even think like this.
Guys, I haven’t had sex yet, why am I not dead?! On the other hand I have plenty of oxygen, maybe too much.
Also that guy Chubs in the OP. He is just a prime example of the whole spreading of the ideology that sex is a need. He seems to be describing it as a basic human need to ensure sanity . He’s a dangerous individual . Even if as he said he would never murder over lack of sex .(wow …how impressive) spreading the idea that lack of sex ‘leads’ (and it seems reasonably so and like matter of fact) to murder /suicide ???
Well if it ever does ? O.K that’s from having the belief you are ENTITLED to having sex .If the person does not give you what you are owed then that may MAKE them kill you . In self defense like if they had stolen your food and were in possession of it and so you are starving them so ……
Sex is a need, but not for women. No need to get elaborate, it’s the same old “women don’t have sexual desire” dance with the word order changed.
Today I learned there’s more than one GGG in the world. ‘Scuse me, I need to go vomit now.
So how would this fool explain someone like Boston Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarneiv? By all accounts regarded as handsome, popular at school, on teams…and was able to get girlfriends. Or Colorado shooter James Holmes, who had been frequenting prostitutes? Maybe he paid for sex, but he was still able to have it, and by one prostitute’s account at least once declined to have it, asking instead to use his hour in small talk. How would they fit into this swiss cheese-holed theory?
He’s right about one thing… that of course not being anything in his long rant about how he thinks the world works, but rather just that mass shootings tend to be at least partially motivated by misogyny with the most violence being done to women.
In most shootings, the majority of victims tend to be women and often a woman is killed first, usually a girlfriend, lover, or former lover. If there is an object of obsession (usually one who has “slighted the shooter” in his mind by denying him something that was seen as his right usually do to privilege and an expectation of always getting his way), that person is usually a woman whose “crimes” seem nonsensical and paltry to outside observers.
In many ways, mass shootings are a form of mass terrorism against women, one little acknowledged by mass media because it doesn’t fit into the narrative of these being “unknowable” “lone-wolf” attacks which can be insinuated to have been done by introverts and outcasts we as a society already suspect often due to whatever mass media we have decided makes a good scapegoat (video games, violent TV, etc…).
So it’s actually kind of amazing to see someone of this group actually acknowledge what a lot of women already know, that mass shootings are intended, on a whole, as a form of terrorism against them for imagined slights to expectations of privilege.
And then actually spell it out and think that is somehow a good thing.
If there were ever any doubt that the entire MRA/PUA community wasn’t a bunch of bitter hateful misogynists bristling that the world doesn’t just up and sucks its dick whenever they get hard, it’s completely shattered by shit like this.
Brooked:
I do think its meant as click-bait, on some level. But it’s completely self-defeating, as ROK is going to have to keep upping the ante by posting more and more outrageous shit, and at some point they’re just going to go too far and alienate even their most loyal readers. Also, this kind of using “outrageousness” as a gimmick is going to fail the way all gimmicks eventually fail: it’s actually going to get really boring. ROK saying something outrageous? Whatever, they always do that. But I also think these guys believe what they are saying. It reads a little to sincere to be (completely) some cynical attempt to generate page views. It buttresses too easy into their other bullshit theories. Chubbs has a little too much glee about being a “truth sayer” combatting all the “politically correct lies” spread by the “liberal media.”
And this kind of shit is just morally repugnant. If he does believe his own bullshit, then he’s a morally repugnant asshole who just wants to blame women for everything, regardless of reality. If he doesn’t believe it, then he’s a disingenuous asshole posting a handy justification for other morally repugnant assholes who pick up weapons to hurt and kill others, but won’t take responsibility for their actions.
And fucking Maslow and his fucking pyramid:
http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html
Reminds me of this: http://i.imgur.com/qdOivuh.png
Anyone want to comment?
Ellie, every time I read shot like that, I’d like to remind muricans of their northern neighbors. We have a lot of guns and gun culture here, and we once had an atrocious death by guns problem. Then we tightened up the laws and lo, gun crime dropped.
Everything US libertarians and republicans scream in rage against has been done in Canada with moderate success.
I like that he’s just barely aware enough not to come right out and say “black people are all murderers,” so he says “a racial composition of a certain character.”
@Ellie: I had comment that was a bit longer, but basically amounts to, “I’ve lost patience with their bullshit.” Didn’t finish reading the first post.
Actually, it could have been shortened even further. Where’s the nopetopus gif when you need it?
And don’t forget mass shootings are because of obese feminists.
Oh and women marrying “up.” That’s why men go “postal.”
Oh, look. “Because no one demanded it! Here, for your reading displeasure, the OP, but now with added bonus racism and homophobia! ‘Cause if you’re gonna irrationally hate on one group of people, you might as well irrationally hate on a few more groups of people! And it’s a numbered list! Numbers are science!”
I still fail to see how obesity is related to any of it. Unless, he’s saying that he won’t fuck fat women but all the women he wants to fuck won’t fuck him because fucking feminism unleaded their hypergamous instincts so they’re now all riding the alpha cock carousel
In any case he has a problem all right but I don’t think it’s what he thinks it is. Pssst, dude, you’re ‘betaness’ isn’t holding you back, your reactionary dickwadness is.
I guess this is what we get when they finally realize that “you better stop complaining and let us rape you, or else we’re going to rape you” isn’t playing very well as a political argument.
The funny thing about the Maslow pyramid is that I ran across it in my college classes, and thought that it was stupid that sex was being posited as a basic need like food or water, but it never occurred to me to argue with my professors about it. Which is weird, because I argued with them about Freud’s sexism all the time.
Sorry ..I hope I don’t get shot for saying this . But if mass shooting is to be condoned /via sexless rage then I think its time to look into castration for the less than one % who wish to justify their shooting sprees . Whats one less mass shooter ?
Because ! Feminists are fat apologists!
@dallasapple
Sorry I don’t think I understand you? How would castration help? It seems kinda random and creepy -.-
I’m sorry I am double and tripple posting but I figured it out .
If all women were not fat .And the most attractive and the least attractive women (we have to get into boob size and other areas besides fat) would fuck every guy that wanted to have sex with them .AND we locked up every black person (man) because they are the murderers.Then no one would have to be murdered and homosexuals would go extinct.
World peace.
Picking famous people for psychological profiling is supremely stupid anyway, since we don’t know that much about them. Mother Theresa is a great example – self actualized? More like self-aggrandizing suffering fetishist.
The claim is they are driven to murder via their sex drive. Its not random .And its not a new idea. Chemical castration . I think the idea that I might be shot and killed randomly or otherwise because a guy has a “high drive” and I am selfish by not giving him sex is a lot more creepy than him being treated for his issue.
Wouldn’t castration just make the angry dudes even angrier? There’s also the fact that it’s ethically unacceptable, and that you’re buying into their argument that it’s sexual frustration that makes mass shooters kill.
It’s times like this that I wish we had a downvote function.