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Return of Kings blog: High school girls are responsible for school shootings because they won't have sex with nerds

A memorial for the victim of the shooting
A memorial for the victim of the shooting

Attention pretty high school girls! If a nerdy looking dude in your school shows up one day loaded with guns and Molotov cocktails and starts shooting up the place, it’s actually your fault, for not sleeping with him.

That, in any case, is the argument of a recent post on pickup guru Roosh V’s repulsive Return of Kings blog. In a post titled Why Did Karl Halverson Pierson Attack His School And Kill A Pretty Girl? guest blogger Billy Chubbs looks at a recent shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado, throwing out the few bits of information we do have about the shooter and making up a story of his own.

On December 13 2013, Karl Halverson Pierson walked into his high school with a gun, wounded a fellow student named Claire Davis and then killed himself. The assumed motive was Karl’s anger toward a teacher at the high school but others in the mainstream media posited their own theories as to the reasons behind the shooting. The usual suspects were called out to blame: prescription drugs, mental illness, gun control, etc. … One theory that was noticeably absent from the ‘experts’ who reported on the situation, however, was Karl’s probable sexual frustration.

His proof? The fact that the girl he managed to shoot and mortally wound before killing himself was quite conventionally attractive. Chubbs posts pictures of the shooter and the girl he shot, who subsequently died:

What do you notice right away? Karl’s not a stunningly handsome dude and Claire is a smoke show. As of this writing, there’s not much information on Karl’s sexual history. It’s doubtful that Karl had a girlfriend, and it’s likely that he was a virgin.

Chubbs makes clear that even if he’s completely wrong about all this, he’s not going to let mere facts stand in the way of his theory.

By the way, if further details are released in the future which discredit my assumptions, well, ignore the Karl parts of this article obviously. Yet even if I’m wrong in my assumptions of Karl’s life, the basic gist of this article is right and does apply to the majority of normally peaceful men who suddenly turn violent and perpetrate these tragedies.

And so he moves on to state what he considers his very brave thesis:

Return Of Kings has touched on this subject before, but since the cowardly and narrow minded mainstream media refuses to even consider positing such a theory, it’s up to us ROK truth sayers to repeat ad nauseum such observations: women’s selfishness makes men kill.

And by “selfishness” Chubbs means their unwillingness to shower sex on all men.

What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.

If by “sure thing” you mean “completely wrong,” then yes. There’s no evidence to back up the oft-repeated manosphere myth that women are having sex with only a small percentage of men. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of adult men are having at least occasional sex. According to one recent survey of American sexual behavior, some 86% of men said they’d had sex in the past year; only 70% of women said the same.

In our society today, there are hundreds of thousands of young men with insatiable sex drives who are receiving little to no sex from their female peers—not even the less attractive women whom traditionally would be paired off with less attractive men.

Wait, someone on Return of Kings is suggesting that it might be acceptable for a man to date a “less attractive woman?” The sort of woman that Roosh and Return of Kings routinely ridicule, and ridicule men for dating?

Chubbs wants to have it both ways. He wants to play at being an alpha male, but he also wants the privileges of victimhood as a poor, oppressed beta. Indeed, in his bio, he describes himself, paradoxically, as a “bipolar, optimistic Alpha male who truly believes that Beta chumps like himself are doomed in today’s politically correct utopia.” Alpha or beta: which is it, dude?

In his post, he postures as an alpha even while recounting his own story of beta victimhood:

Life without sex is a horrible experience, especially when you’re a young man. Although I get laid consistently, I have gone long stretches without any sort of sexual contact with women.

Well, that kind of sucks, dude, but, you know, welcome to life. Sometimes life sucks.

It was gruelling.

No, the Bataan Death March was gruelling. You had a dry spell.  I’ve had dry spells. Everyone else I know has had dry spells. Virtually everyone in the world has dry spells. They can be really rough. But they’re not a fucking human rights violation.

My unfulfilled sex drive made me jack off on average three times a day—four or more on gym days when I upped my testosterone level.

OH NO YOU WERE FORCED TO MASTURBATE

NEWS FLASH: Women aren’t obligated to jump on your stick every time you get a boner.

For the vast majority of men their sex life is a central part of their character and a major part of their motivation for all aspects of their life. If men are barred from it (whether they actually are or merely feel that they are) for whatever reason, they feel little incentive for anything else; even if that incentive is to not go crazy and shoot people.

Wait, how did we get from, boo hoo I have to masturbate to, well I might as well just kill a bunch of people?

Karl wanted to have sex, and just by looking at him it’s obvious he wasn’t getting much, or any. Claire is a beautiful young woman and is doubtlessly the object of affection for many young men who know her, including lonely and sexually frustrated ones. Karl was certainly amongst them. Karl had no chance to ever be with her and he knew it. And that’s why he encountered her in his school, armed with a gun, he turned it against her.

So it’s her fault for getting shot by a dude because she didn’t fuck him?

Am I saying Claire should have known better and had sex with Karl in advance? No. Claire was for all intents and purposes (looks, status, wealth) far out of Karl’s league. Yet there’s little doubt that there were many, many women in Karl’s high school who were in his league.

Oh, so it was some other girl’s fault that Claire got shot, because this other girl didn’t fuck him.

So why wasn’t Karl at home relieving his sexual frustrations with a girlfriend on par with his looks instead of simmering in anger alone, writing typical angry teenaged political messages on his Facebook and purchasing guns? It is because the inherent selfishness of all women has been allowed to run rampant in our Western societies.

How is it selfish for women to choose who they want to have sex with? No one is obligated to have sex with anyone they don’t want to have sex with.

Women whose level of physical looks give them no right to be picky are allowed to chase after the upper tiers of men with no shame while men who are just as, or perhaps even a little more, attractive then themselves are forced to remain virgins into their twenties and are forced to wait until women’s looks begin to fade around the age of twenty-six before being given the chance to enter into a relationship with them.

What the fucking hell? What planet are you living on and how on earth, even if this were true, does this justify murder?

Also: there is no epidemic of American men “forced to remain virgins into their twenties” by evil women. Indeed, the average American male loses his virginity just shy of age 17, slightly earlier than the average American female.

And even then, the relationship is a farce. The woman has only entered it out of desperation since all the upper echelons of sexually enticing men who used to have sex with her have cast her off and she is emotionally damaged by her selfish experiences.

Really? This little narrative describes the life of precisely zero women I have ever met.

What future did Karl have to look forward to? Working a mediocre job (if he could even get one), living in a society that does not look out for him or his interests in the slightest (while often ridiculing the people like him in the media – when not actively selling out his future) and having to wait until he was twenty-five or older before being able to enter into a sexually satisfying relationship with a woman on par with his looks (who would be incapable of actually loving him by that point due to her dozens of sexual partners)?

NONE OF THIS IS TRUE WHY DO YOU GUYS PRETEND THAT IT IS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU I DON’T EVEN

Young men like Karl – who aren’t blessed with looks, or exorbitant wealth, or the top tier social skills of the small percentage of men who are getting laid – have been left in the dust by our female-centric, uncaring societies.

IT’S NOT JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF MEN WHO ARE HAVING SEX WHERE DO YOU GET THIS SHIT ITS NOT TRUE WHY DO YOU

And society does not care until men like him pick up a gun and starts shooting.

And now we come to the blackmail portion of the rant: Sleep with us or we’ll kill you!

The assumed catalyst as to why Karl went on the rampage was that he was demoted by a teacher in charge of the debate team, and that this caused murderous frustration in him. Do you think Karl would have had so much murderous frustration if he was receiving as little as a blowjob every so often?

All he wanted was a blowjob! It is the sacred duty of every high school girl to seek out high school boys with the greatest surplus of murderous frustration and ease this frustration with sex.

So long as society encourages women of all ages to be the inherently promiscuous creatures they are and allow them to limit their sexual choices to the men at the top of the pyramid (when many of them have no right to), sexually frustrated men will continue to lash out with extreme violence.

Wait, so after demanding that women be more promiscuous, you’re berating them for being promiscuous?

Not that I’m surprised in the slightest.

The Columbine’s will continue. The Sandy Hook’s will continue. The Arapahoe’s will continue. Until society sits down and thinks over these problems with an unclouded mind, men will continue the shootings. More people will die just so Jane Doe can continue to ‘explore’ her sexuality until she hits the wall.

So young men should be guaranteed sex — OR ELSE THEY’LL SHOOT YOU — but young women are somehow evil for having sex with men who aren’t murderously frustrated nerds?

Of course, it’s always easier to scream, “PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! GUN CONTROL MENTAL ILLNESS!” and ignore the root of the problem and twiddle one’s thumbs until the next shooting. For many men, hundreds of thousands of them, they live in a mentally ill society. It’s a testament to either their humanity or their cowardice that more of them do not lash out like this.

And it’s a testament to your lack of humanity that you even think like this.

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Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

Well, they make fun of women who want romance and perscribe to RomComs. If they just had someone to fuck, everything will be OK is just as silly. They buy into gender stereotypes without ever questioning them. But, the mythological properties they perscribe to being someone Who Has Sex is childish and lacks introspection.

Bina
10 years ago

Well, it just amazes me that this Billy Chubbs character would just post, on the Internet for anyone to see, such ample evidence of his own stupidity and lack of basic decency or common sense.

I mean, he could’ve saved a whole bunch of verbiage and just posted: “I am a stupid asshole.”

Verbal economy isn’t their strong suit, I guess. And they can’t manage that much self-reflection, either. Especially not when a bullshit get-me-sex theory is at stake. They think so much with the little head, the big one never gets a look-in. And they assume all other males do, too.

In short, they are the ultimate misandrists.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

I remember seeing either here, or on Reddit (or both) someone argue that women don’t take love as seriously as men because women want to have sex/romance with anyone and basically just love love itself (“proof” of this is liking romantic comedies and novels) while men pine over specific people (forget what the “proof” was).

Sounds extra stupid when I think of that old friend of mine and all this mess.

All these ideas about sex some people have are so toxic and self defeating. I’m thankful as hell I can just masturbate if I want and not deal with it, I don’t know what these guys are complaining about.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

OH I saw that argument here in the comment section! I remember! That guy was saying all sorts of silly! Can’t remember his name or what thread it was under but I saw it here I’m sure.

littlebear
littlebear
10 years ago

@baileyrenee
Someone actually tried to make that argument here? Do you know the thread? I would love to see how you ripped them to shreds

Btw, I’m the person listed as mathcone above. No clue why my name was changed earlier…

kittehserf
10 years ago

mathcone (or littlebear – looks like WordPress is messing around with your nym), hi! Have a Welcome Package! 🙂

(Third today, third today, nyah nyah nyah)

Catfish
Catfish
10 years ago

This reminds me off a dumbass, a blogger or something, suggested that mass shootings or similar violence can be partially caused by sexual frustration, and that possibly men would be less violent if women would just put out more. This spark of insanity was prompted by Breivik’s mass shooting in 2011.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

Here ya go, Littlebear! Turns out it was a regular troll named Good, who is stupendously bad. Scroll down on this page until you see him pop up, he’s got a green default icon.

http://manboobz.com/2013/11/11/rex-patriarch-explains-why-women-like-dogs-are-incapable-of-love/comment-page-2/#comments

grumpycatisagirl
10 years ago

Oh, Good. How I do not miss him.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Oh, I remember “Good.” He kept changing his argument, and denying what he’d said, and didn’t think anyone could click back a page or two to read his previous posts.

Yeah, UnGood was annoying. Glad he’s gone.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Three unicorns, two horses, and some carrots from Shaun. Timer reset to 10:30pm blog time.

Catfish — his is lots of things, but not insanity. Please review the welcome package linked above for why.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
10 years ago

Biot, I actually haven’t read anything that’s a series, except “A Plague of Angels” and then “The Waters Rising”. I got hooked with “Beauty” and she is one of my feminism go tos. And “Beauty” remains one of my all time biggest rec’s. With a TW for rape, abuse, torture, dismemberment, and sexual harassment/assault. I love how she managed to weave several fairy tales into the Sleeping Beauty myth. I have a copy of “Jinian Stareye” that I found in a used bookstore, but most of her stuff is out of print and really hard to find, and I prefer to read a series in order. And I loaned my copy of “The Family Tree” to my mother, who gave it away. Which I have tried to not see as abuse. I have had no success with that. And it’s out of print.

littlebear
littlebear
10 years ago

Wow, I’m still shocked that people can be so illogical and inconsistent. Ze was just not connected to how real people act.

Thanks Kitteh!

Amy
Amy
10 years ago

If a guy at my hotness level isn’t interested in me and goes for an even hotter girl at my disadvantage, I guess that permits me to commit a terrible crime. And unless society realizes this, I have no choice in the matter…..obviously.

vaiyt
vaiyt
10 years ago

“Men are naturally inclined to being murderous shitheels, and only raping women can sate their tendencies!”

That’s not an argument for forcing women into rape, it’s an argument for locking all men and giving them medication.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Amended Welcome Package isn’t working, eh?

Damn.

Brooked
Brooked
10 years ago

@Sparky

Well, it just amazes me that this Billy Chubbs character would just post, on the Internet for anyone to see, such ample evidence of his own stupidity and lack of basic decency or common sense.

I mean, he could’ve saved a whole bunch of verbiage and just posted: “I am a stupid asshole.”

A part of me thinks that this article is a “humorous” put-on because this theory is so patently absurd and ROK specializes in deliberately “outrageous” click bait. Then I think mass murder must be beyond the pale, even for these jack-asses. Congrats Billy, I can’t decide if your writing more reflects your moral turpitude or your rank stupidity.

rjjspesh
10 years ago

Sooooo…. women are evil for not having sex with men & it’s our fault they commit violent crimes
BUT
Women are worthless sluts if we *do* have sex with multiple partners.

/brainbroke

I have a sneaking suspicion that these guys just hate women no matter how we behaved. I also have a sneaking suspicion that my sneaking suspicion is definitely correct

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
10 years ago

+1 to lots of excellent responses here.

TMI below.

To add my perspective, this wouldn’t even work. I remember when I managed to have sex with a few people in short succession, I also felt about the worst I have ever felt. This was part of what helped me realize that I can’t base my self worth on the state of the world. Getting laid may have only fueled whatever frustrations which helped lead to this act.

Tldr: Sex without emotional intimacy is alienating for me, and wouldn’t have helped anything.

AIT
AIT
10 years ago

@ Kittehserf: Hi! Now I officially have received one. Thanks!

I guess I should also mention to the commenters here that you also do a lot to restore my faith in humans in general. So a big thanks to the lot of you! You all brighten my day.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Tldr: Sex without emotional intimacy is alienating for me, and wouldn’t have helped anything.

::fistbump with extra sparkly knuckles::

littlebear and AIT – ya welcome! Enjoy the kitties and Scented Fucking Candles and whore penguins and hard chairs.

(That’s the other great thing about the welcome package: all those bizarre running jokes will finally mean something!)

scarlettpipstrelle
10 years ago

Is it just me, or do MRAers like this seem incredibly childish in their expectations of life? The concept of independent grownups having preferences and making decisions seems to be a hard one for them. Their sense of entitlement to accessing other people is just creepy, too.

kittehserf
10 years ago

It is very childish indeed – and repulsive it is in an adult.

Someone should tell them that “getting in touch with your inner child” is not meant to be “getting in touch with your rage-filled toddler”.

Jessay (@jessay)
10 years ago

What a wonderful trade off. Have sex with men I’m not attracted to because if I don’t THEY MIGHT KILL ME!

But women are the problem…

kittehserf
10 years ago

And of course they’d say “What’s the problem, it’s just sex,” to us, ignoring that this whole rant is about how they MUST, MUST have sex or they’ll die, or their balls will explode, or something.

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