Attention pretty high school girls! If a nerdy looking dude in your school shows up one day loaded with guns and Molotov cocktails and starts shooting up the place, it’s actually your fault, for not sleeping with him.
That, in any case, is the argument of a recent post on pickup guru Roosh V’s repulsive Return of Kings blog. In a post titled Why Did Karl Halverson Pierson Attack His School And Kill A Pretty Girl? guest blogger Billy Chubbs looks at a recent shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado, throwing out the few bits of information we do have about the shooter and making up a story of his own.
On December 13 2013, Karl Halverson Pierson walked into his high school with a gun, wounded a fellow student named Claire Davis and then killed himself. The assumed motive was Karl’s anger toward a teacher at the high school but others in the mainstream media posited their own theories as to the reasons behind the shooting. The usual suspects were called out to blame: prescription drugs, mental illness, gun control, etc. … One theory that was noticeably absent from the ‘experts’ who reported on the situation, however, was Karl’s probable sexual frustration.
His proof? The fact that the girl he managed to shoot and mortally wound before killing himself was quite conventionally attractive. Chubbs posts pictures of the shooter and the girl he shot, who subsequently died:
What do you notice right away? Karl’s not a stunningly handsome dude and Claire is a smoke show. As of this writing, there’s not much information on Karl’s sexual history. It’s doubtful that Karl had a girlfriend, and it’s likely that he was a virgin.
Chubbs makes clear that even if he’s completely wrong about all this, he’s not going to let mere facts stand in the way of his theory.
By the way, if further details are released in the future which discredit my assumptions, well, ignore the Karl parts of this article obviously. Yet even if I’m wrong in my assumptions of Karl’s life, the basic gist of this article is right and does apply to the majority of normally peaceful men who suddenly turn violent and perpetrate these tragedies.
And so he moves on to state what he considers his very brave thesis:
Return Of Kings has touched on this subject before, but since the cowardly and narrow minded mainstream media refuses to even consider positing such a theory, it’s up to us ROK truth sayers to repeat ad nauseum such observations: women’s selfishness makes men kill.
And by “selfishness” Chubbs means their unwillingness to shower sex on all men.
What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.
If by “sure thing” you mean “completely wrong,” then yes. There’s no evidence to back up the oft-repeated manosphere myth that women are having sex with only a small percentage of men. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of adult men are having at least occasional sex. According to one recent survey of American sexual behavior, some 86% of men said they’d had sex in the past year; only 70% of women said the same.
In our society today, there are hundreds of thousands of young men with insatiable sex drives who are receiving little to no sex from their female peers—not even the less attractive women whom traditionally would be paired off with less attractive men.
Wait, someone on Return of Kings is suggesting that it might be acceptable for a man to date a “less attractive woman?” The sort of woman that Roosh and Return of Kings routinely ridicule, and ridicule men for dating?
Chubbs wants to have it both ways. He wants to play at being an alpha male, but he also wants the privileges of victimhood as a poor, oppressed beta. Indeed, in his bio, he describes himself, paradoxically, as a “bipolar, optimistic Alpha male who truly believes that Beta chumps like himself are doomed in today’s politically correct utopia.” Alpha or beta: which is it, dude?
In his post, he postures as an alpha even while recounting his own story of beta victimhood:
Life without sex is a horrible experience, especially when you’re a young man. Although I get laid consistently, I have gone long stretches without any sort of sexual contact with women.
Well, that kind of sucks, dude, but, you know, welcome to life. Sometimes life sucks.
It was gruelling.
No, the Bataan Death March was gruelling. You had a dry spell. I’ve had dry spells. Everyone else I know has had dry spells. Virtually everyone in the world has dry spells. They can be really rough. But they’re not a fucking human rights violation.
My unfulfilled sex drive made me jack off on average three times a day—four or more on gym days when I upped my testosterone level.
OH NO YOU WERE FORCED TO MASTURBATE
NEWS FLASH: Women aren’t obligated to jump on your stick every time you get a boner.
For the vast majority of men their sex life is a central part of their character and a major part of their motivation for all aspects of their life. If men are barred from it (whether they actually are or merely feel that they are) for whatever reason, they feel little incentive for anything else; even if that incentive is to not go crazy and shoot people.
Wait, how did we get from, boo hoo I have to masturbate to, well I might as well just kill a bunch of people?
Karl wanted to have sex, and just by looking at him it’s obvious he wasn’t getting much, or any. Claire is a beautiful young woman and is doubtlessly the object of affection for many young men who know her, including lonely and sexually frustrated ones. Karl was certainly amongst them. Karl had no chance to ever be with her and he knew it. And that’s why he encountered her in his school, armed with a gun, he turned it against her.
So it’s her fault for getting shot by a dude because she didn’t fuck him?
Am I saying Claire should have known better and had sex with Karl in advance? No. Claire was for all intents and purposes (looks, status, wealth) far out of Karl’s league. Yet there’s little doubt that there were many, many women in Karl’s high school who were in his league.
Oh, so it was some other girl’s fault that Claire got shot, because this other girl didn’t fuck him.
So why wasn’t Karl at home relieving his sexual frustrations with a girlfriend on par with his looks instead of simmering in anger alone, writing typical angry teenaged political messages on his Facebook and purchasing guns? It is because the inherent selfishness of all women has been allowed to run rampant in our Western societies.
How is it selfish for women to choose who they want to have sex with? No one is obligated to have sex with anyone they don’t want to have sex with.
Women whose level of physical looks give them no right to be picky are allowed to chase after the upper tiers of men with no shame while men who are just as, or perhaps even a little more, attractive then themselves are forced to remain virgins into their twenties and are forced to wait until women’s looks begin to fade around the age of twenty-six before being given the chance to enter into a relationship with them.
What the fucking hell? What planet are you living on and how on earth, even if this were true, does this justify murder?
Also: there is no epidemic of American men “forced to remain virgins into their twenties” by evil women. Indeed, the average American male loses his virginity just shy of age 17, slightly earlier than the average American female.
And even then, the relationship is a farce. The woman has only entered it out of desperation since all the upper echelons of sexually enticing men who used to have sex with her have cast her off and she is emotionally damaged by her selfish experiences.
Really? This little narrative describes the life of precisely zero women I have ever met.
What future did Karl have to look forward to? Working a mediocre job (if he could even get one), living in a society that does not look out for him or his interests in the slightest (while often ridiculing the people like him in the media – when not actively selling out his future) and having to wait until he was twenty-five or older before being able to enter into a sexually satisfying relationship with a woman on par with his looks (who would be incapable of actually loving him by that point due to her dozens of sexual partners)?
NONE OF THIS IS TRUE WHY DO YOU GUYS PRETEND THAT IT IS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU I DON’T EVEN
Young men like Karl – who aren’t blessed with looks, or exorbitant wealth, or the top tier social skills of the small percentage of men who are getting laid – have been left in the dust by our female-centric, uncaring societies.
IT’S NOT JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF MEN WHO ARE HAVING SEX WHERE DO YOU GET THIS SHIT ITS NOT TRUE WHY DO YOU
And society does not care until men like him pick up a gun and starts shooting.
And now we come to the blackmail portion of the rant: Sleep with us or we’ll kill you!
The assumed catalyst as to why Karl went on the rampage was that he was demoted by a teacher in charge of the debate team, and that this caused murderous frustration in him. Do you think Karl would have had so much murderous frustration if he was receiving as little as a blowjob every so often?
All he wanted was a blowjob! It is the sacred duty of every high school girl to seek out high school boys with the greatest surplus of murderous frustration and ease this frustration with sex.
So long as society encourages women of all ages to be the inherently promiscuous creatures they are and allow them to limit their sexual choices to the men at the top of the pyramid (when many of them have no right to), sexually frustrated men will continue to lash out with extreme violence.
Wait, so after demanding that women be more promiscuous, you’re berating them for being promiscuous?
Not that I’m surprised in the slightest.
The Columbine’s will continue. The Sandy Hook’s will continue. The Arapahoe’s will continue. Until society sits down and thinks over these problems with an unclouded mind, men will continue the shootings. More people will die just so Jane Doe can continue to ‘explore’ her sexuality until she hits the wall.
So young men should be guaranteed sex — OR ELSE THEY’LL SHOOT YOU — but young women are somehow evil for having sex with men who aren’t murderously frustrated nerds?
Of course, it’s always easier to scream, “PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! GUN CONTROL MENTAL ILLNESS!” and ignore the root of the problem and twiddle one’s thumbs until the next shooting. For many men, hundreds of thousands of them, they live in a mentally ill society. It’s a testament to either their humanity or their cowardice that more of them do not lash out like this.
And it’s a testament to your lack of humanity that you even think like this.
Pear_tree – that’s horrible, that those scumbags can make you feel bad about anything. Does it help to say “consider the source”? They hate women, so everything they say stems from that and is arse about face (not surprising given most of ’em can’t tell their arse from their elbow).
There’s no justification needed to prefer one person over another, or to fall in love with one and not another. It’s not a contest or an employment decision or anything else, and you don’t owe anything to anyone, least of all the dregs of the scrotosphere. It’s not like you’d be choosing any of them in a million years, and neither – going from the evidence – is anyone else. They deserve their self-imposed misery.
If you’re open to being in a relationship if one develops, cool! If you don’t want to be in a relationship, cool! Fuck the naysayers who try to define women that way, it’s none of their business.
::added fistbumps for grumpycatisagirl and Pear_tree::
Okay, the World Population Clock tells me there’s about 7.2 billion people on the planet. With men around 49% of the population, this means that 3,528,000,000 of these people are men. I’m still in a relationship with my first and only sexual partner, which means I’m fucking only 1/3,528,000,000 men, or 0.0000000003% of men.
I am misandry.
grumpy, that is true it is mainly my own fault. I think a lot of women feel that guilt though.
I don’t think there is anything useful I can say about their comments on mass murder. They seem to fail to see men as people with a sense of self and women as people with emotions.
@Pear_tree,
If it helps, remember that MRAs don’t really think men can’t live without women. They just want women to think we can’t live without men. They want us to be desperately afraid to say no.
Yes, that means their ideal world is one in which hetero sex is rape by default. They actually want to live in the world they castigate Andrea Dworkin for positing that we already live in.
What in the everloving fuck?
How about we even, for a second, assume that “Men feel entitled to sex to the point where they will kill women if they don’t get it” is something that even resembles the truth.
How is “Thus, we need to change society to give men more sex” anywhere close to a reasonable solution? Why not “Let’s change society and reduce that entitlement?”
I mean, those aren’t real questions, because we all know the answer. And because we know this doesn’t actually have anything to do with the poor girl who was killed – it has to do with these cretins caring more about having sex than about the wellbeing of other humans.
I just wish that they could have a moment of clarity and realize that in the story of a boy who shoots and kills a girl, they are not only identifying with that boy, but intentionally attributing his motives to their agenda. That they could just step back for a second and realize that they are crafting a narrative that sympathizes with a someone who kills an innocent bystander because they didn’t get laid.
I’m just so lucky never to have been interested in any of the boys at school (hurl); it would have been like the episode Bina described. I thought I might when I did my one year of sort-of college; my class was all really nice people and we had a fun year, but romantically, no. Of course the real romance of my life did happen that year, but it was with Mr K, who ain’t no schoolboy (thank all the gods). I’ve been spared all the shit of dealing with dating or whatever, and while that quarter-century before we got in contact could be bloody lonely – as in, lonely for him, not for A Man – the only thing I’d change would be knowing what I know now, a lot earlier. I don’t miss one little bit not having any other relationships.
PS I was supposed to be saying I’m also so grateful not to feel that guilt; it got lost in the works. 😛
Sorry, submitted too quickly. That last sentence should read:
That they could just step back for a second and realize that they are crafting and participating in a narrative that sympathizes with someone who kills an innocent bystander because they didn’t get laid.
::bows before the power of augochlorella’s misandry::
Preach. I’ve been on both sides of the divide…felt like a complete loser for not being someone’s all-too-conventional idea of attractive at first, and then felt shitty again for rejecting a nice but no-chemistry-there guy friend later. (Blurting it out because I was so residually awkward and inexperienced at being considered attractive made me feel even worse.)
You really can’t win with these guys, and that’s just what they want…women losing so that all your power are belong to THEM!!111eleventyone!!! Or some shit like that.
I’ve never felt guilty about choosing some men over others. I don’t feel like men owe it to me to give me sex/companionship just because I want those things, so why should they have that expectation of me? It’s a classic double standard.
There needs to be a way to persuade these guys that if they want to play at Gor, they have to wear the loincloths. Nice clear warning sign, plus there’s the point and laugh value.
I vote for them writing GOR on their foreheads with a Sharpie.
Cassandra – that’s how I felt about Mr K for a long time, too. I had no idea whether (assuming he was alive, which I didn’t know) he knew I existed, or if he did, cared – and I knew I had no right to expect any reciprocal feeling from him. Anything else would have been entitled and stalkerish.
Seconded!
As will the apostrophe abuse, apparently.
When I got to the part where he blamed other women not having sex with this dude as the reason Claire got shot, I had to clean up brain matter as my head popped from the author’s venal stupidity.
“I don’t feel like men owe it to me to give me sex/companionship just because I want those things, so why should they have that expectation of me?”
It took younger me a long time to realize I could ask myself this question. But at least I finally did.
Everything those people write is borderline schizophrenic. It’s just scary to read all those stuff. And all because of their sexual frustration, entitlement and lust for power and control over women and their bodies…
Oh read. Schizophrenic =/= terrible person.
@diana adams
Maybe cut it out with the ableism?
Actually, cut it out. No ‘maybe’ about it.
That’s not even an ableist stereotype that makes sense in context. WTF does schizophrenia have to do with being a misogynist who thinks that women owe men sex?
But I thought girls who slept around were supposed to be pilloried and slut shamed? I thought girls were meant to marry as virgin brides to seasoned men in their forties and lead lives of submissive devotion to only the finest of alpha males!
Oh no, sorry, that’s the MRAs. Over in ROK Land girls are supposed to remain virgins until they meet Roosh, and sleep with him, then clean his flat and disappear.
Hmm, still doesn’t make sense. Perhaps every high school should have a team of prostitutes on site, a bit like guidance counselors in fishnets?
On a more serious note, I don’t know anything much about this particular tragedy, but I’ve read about others, and I sorry to admit I do kind of know where these shooters are coming from, insofar as I had a lot of rage in me when I was a teenager. At school I was extremely isolated, with problems at home, and felt suicidal and fearful of the future, and I was also bullied. And while I never did anything about it (beyond carrying a blunt instrument around in my bag), I did fantasize about killing people I knew, I even went as far as writing a short story for English class about murdering a girl who was always picking on me, I didn’t even change the names. Nowadays writing something like that would probably get you suspended, but this was 25 years ago and I just got my teacher writing ‘a disturbing read’. Now, that might not sound like a big deal, but had I had access to guns as young people in America do, and had I been pushed just a bit further I might have ended up doing serious harm to myself or someone else.
Looking back I had a lot less empathy when I was an adolescent, and the world was smaller and more intense, but one thing I do remember, it had nothing to do with being a virgin.
Such bollocks…for a lot of reasons, of course, but also because they don’t really even think what they think they think. Or rather, they’ve deluded themselves.
The RoK ass-hats don’t want more women to have sex with more men…they’re all about the slut-shaming. No, they want more women to have sex with THEM and only them.
The hypocracy of patriarchy…women who have sex with other men are considered sluts; women who won’t have sex with me are considered sluts (because of the assumption that they are having sex with other men); only women who are worth anything are the ones I can claim as my own…by having sex with them.
@cassandrasays
No frickin clue :/
“I don’t know KARATE!
But I know CUH-REEPY!”
Apologies to James Brown (not too sorry tho since he was a fuckin wife-beater)
Jebus. If not getting fucked is enough to make men go on a rampage then maybe we should just lock them all up.