Attention pretty high school girls! If a nerdy looking dude in your school shows up one day loaded with guns and Molotov cocktails and starts shooting up the place, it’s actually your fault, for not sleeping with him.
That, in any case, is the argument of a recent post on pickup guru Roosh V’s repulsive Return of Kings blog. In a post titled Why Did Karl Halverson Pierson Attack His School And Kill A Pretty Girl? guest blogger Billy Chubbs looks at a recent shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado, throwing out the few bits of information we do have about the shooter and making up a story of his own.
On December 13 2013, Karl Halverson Pierson walked into his high school with a gun, wounded a fellow student named Claire Davis and then killed himself. The assumed motive was Karl’s anger toward a teacher at the high school but others in the mainstream media posited their own theories as to the reasons behind the shooting. The usual suspects were called out to blame: prescription drugs, mental illness, gun control, etc. … One theory that was noticeably absent from the ‘experts’ who reported on the situation, however, was Karl’s probable sexual frustration.
His proof? The fact that the girl he managed to shoot and mortally wound before killing himself was quite conventionally attractive. Chubbs posts pictures of the shooter and the girl he shot, who subsequently died:
What do you notice right away? Karl’s not a stunningly handsome dude and Claire is a smoke show. As of this writing, there’s not much information on Karl’s sexual history. It’s doubtful that Karl had a girlfriend, and it’s likely that he was a virgin.
Chubbs makes clear that even if he’s completely wrong about all this, he’s not going to let mere facts stand in the way of his theory.
By the way, if further details are released in the future which discredit my assumptions, well, ignore the Karl parts of this article obviously. Yet even if I’m wrong in my assumptions of Karl’s life, the basic gist of this article is right and does apply to the majority of normally peaceful men who suddenly turn violent and perpetrate these tragedies.
And so he moves on to state what he considers his very brave thesis:
Return Of Kings has touched on this subject before, but since the cowardly and narrow minded mainstream media refuses to even consider positing such a theory, it’s up to us ROK truth sayers to repeat ad nauseum such observations: women’s selfishness makes men kill.
And by “selfishness” Chubbs means their unwillingness to shower sex on all men.
What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.
If by “sure thing” you mean “completely wrong,” then yes. There’s no evidence to back up the oft-repeated manosphere myth that women are having sex with only a small percentage of men. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of adult men are having at least occasional sex. According to one recent survey of American sexual behavior, some 86% of men said they’d had sex in the past year; only 70% of women said the same.
In our society today, there are hundreds of thousands of young men with insatiable sex drives who are receiving little to no sex from their female peers—not even the less attractive women whom traditionally would be paired off with less attractive men.
Wait, someone on Return of Kings is suggesting that it might be acceptable for a man to date a “less attractive woman?” The sort of woman that Roosh and Return of Kings routinely ridicule, and ridicule men for dating?
Chubbs wants to have it both ways. He wants to play at being an alpha male, but he also wants the privileges of victimhood as a poor, oppressed beta. Indeed, in his bio, he describes himself, paradoxically, as a “bipolar, optimistic Alpha male who truly believes that Beta chumps like himself are doomed in today’s politically correct utopia.” Alpha or beta: which is it, dude?
In his post, he postures as an alpha even while recounting his own story of beta victimhood:
Life without sex is a horrible experience, especially when you’re a young man. Although I get laid consistently, I have gone long stretches without any sort of sexual contact with women.
Well, that kind of sucks, dude, but, you know, welcome to life. Sometimes life sucks.
It was gruelling.
No, the Bataan Death March was gruelling. You had a dry spell. I’ve had dry spells. Everyone else I know has had dry spells. Virtually everyone in the world has dry spells. They can be really rough. But they’re not a fucking human rights violation.
My unfulfilled sex drive made me jack off on average three times a day—four or more on gym days when I upped my testosterone level.
OH NO YOU WERE FORCED TO MASTURBATE
NEWS FLASH: Women aren’t obligated to jump on your stick every time you get a boner.
For the vast majority of men their sex life is a central part of their character and a major part of their motivation for all aspects of their life. If men are barred from it (whether they actually are or merely feel that they are) for whatever reason, they feel little incentive for anything else; even if that incentive is to not go crazy and shoot people.
Wait, how did we get from, boo hoo I have to masturbate to, well I might as well just kill a bunch of people?
Karl wanted to have sex, and just by looking at him it’s obvious he wasn’t getting much, or any. Claire is a beautiful young woman and is doubtlessly the object of affection for many young men who know her, including lonely and sexually frustrated ones. Karl was certainly amongst them. Karl had no chance to ever be with her and he knew it. And that’s why he encountered her in his school, armed with a gun, he turned it against her.
So it’s her fault for getting shot by a dude because she didn’t fuck him?
Am I saying Claire should have known better and had sex with Karl in advance? No. Claire was for all intents and purposes (looks, status, wealth) far out of Karl’s league. Yet there’s little doubt that there were many, many women in Karl’s high school who were in his league.
Oh, so it was some other girl’s fault that Claire got shot, because this other girl didn’t fuck him.
So why wasn’t Karl at home relieving his sexual frustrations with a girlfriend on par with his looks instead of simmering in anger alone, writing typical angry teenaged political messages on his Facebook and purchasing guns? It is because the inherent selfishness of all women has been allowed to run rampant in our Western societies.
How is it selfish for women to choose who they want to have sex with? No one is obligated to have sex with anyone they don’t want to have sex with.
Women whose level of physical looks give them no right to be picky are allowed to chase after the upper tiers of men with no shame while men who are just as, or perhaps even a little more, attractive then themselves are forced to remain virgins into their twenties and are forced to wait until women’s looks begin to fade around the age of twenty-six before being given the chance to enter into a relationship with them.
What the fucking hell? What planet are you living on and how on earth, even if this were true, does this justify murder?
Also: there is no epidemic of American men “forced to remain virgins into their twenties” by evil women. Indeed, the average American male loses his virginity just shy of age 17, slightly earlier than the average American female.
And even then, the relationship is a farce. The woman has only entered it out of desperation since all the upper echelons of sexually enticing men who used to have sex with her have cast her off and she is emotionally damaged by her selfish experiences.
Really? This little narrative describes the life of precisely zero women I have ever met.
What future did Karl have to look forward to? Working a mediocre job (if he could even get one), living in a society that does not look out for him or his interests in the slightest (while often ridiculing the people like him in the media – when not actively selling out his future) and having to wait until he was twenty-five or older before being able to enter into a sexually satisfying relationship with a woman on par with his looks (who would be incapable of actually loving him by that point due to her dozens of sexual partners)?
NONE OF THIS IS TRUE WHY DO YOU GUYS PRETEND THAT IT IS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU I DON’T EVEN
Young men like Karl – who aren’t blessed with looks, or exorbitant wealth, or the top tier social skills of the small percentage of men who are getting laid – have been left in the dust by our female-centric, uncaring societies.
IT’S NOT JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF MEN WHO ARE HAVING SEX WHERE DO YOU GET THIS SHIT ITS NOT TRUE WHY DO YOU
And society does not care until men like him pick up a gun and starts shooting.
And now we come to the blackmail portion of the rant: Sleep with us or we’ll kill you!
The assumed catalyst as to why Karl went on the rampage was that he was demoted by a teacher in charge of the debate team, and that this caused murderous frustration in him. Do you think Karl would have had so much murderous frustration if he was receiving as little as a blowjob every so often?
All he wanted was a blowjob! It is the sacred duty of every high school girl to seek out high school boys with the greatest surplus of murderous frustration and ease this frustration with sex.
So long as society encourages women of all ages to be the inherently promiscuous creatures they are and allow them to limit their sexual choices to the men at the top of the pyramid (when many of them have no right to), sexually frustrated men will continue to lash out with extreme violence.
Wait, so after demanding that women be more promiscuous, you’re berating them for being promiscuous?
Not that I’m surprised in the slightest.
The Columbine’s will continue. The Sandy Hook’s will continue. The Arapahoe’s will continue. Until society sits down and thinks over these problems with an unclouded mind, men will continue the shootings. More people will die just so Jane Doe can continue to ‘explore’ her sexuality until she hits the wall.
So young men should be guaranteed sex — OR ELSE THEY’LL SHOOT YOU — but young women are somehow evil for having sex with men who aren’t murderously frustrated nerds?
Of course, it’s always easier to scream, “PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! GUN CONTROL MENTAL ILLNESS!” and ignore the root of the problem and twiddle one’s thumbs until the next shooting. For many men, hundreds of thousands of them, they live in a mentally ill society. It’s a testament to either their humanity or their cowardice that more of them do not lash out like this.
And it’s a testament to your lack of humanity that you even think like this.
Bina – yu’p, MRA’s hat’e Englis’h to’o.
Argenti – I can’t help it, I loved this typo: “sex doesn’t cute mental illness”.
But cute cures everything!
http://youtu.be/1jFikH7Qmto
Argenti – massive sense of entitlement and rage that it’s not being catered to? Apart from the gun issues, this is so much a thing men do, far more than women.
“What do I mean by women’s selfishness? The majority of women are consistently sexual only with a minority of men. This is a fact. The percentages aren’t certain (some studies claim a 60w/40m percentage – I personally think it’s as high as 70w/30m based on my own empirical observations), but the basics are a sure thing.”
I stopped reading at this point, because people who can’t tell the difference between “empirical” and “anectdotal shit I just pulled out of my ass” are too stupid to be entitled to an opinion.
“They’d be even lower if our damnfool conservative politicians took mental health issues seriously and reopened the mental hospitals, instead of just waiting until somebody flips out and then sending them to jail.”
Oh boy do I need coffee to properly express a reply to that. It’s not that simple. Not just reopen them, but improve them — locking the suicidal away (and they are locked, it’s part of why I am obsessively careful not to say anything that might get me committed), without real treatment, isn’t going to cure shit. Like, the last time I tried to kill myself I was facing homelessness, merely locking me up wouldn’t have solved either my mental illness(es) nor the housing problem.
And they don’t often (ever?) have suicidal wards. They lock people who’ve tried to kill themselves up with people who’re prone to screaming and violence. Often in mixed gender wards (which I guess at least means trans* people don’t have a “idfk wtf to do with you” housing issue like with homeless shelters).
It’s a goddamned disaster. And that’s not touching the staffing issues, stories of people having self-inflicted wounds stitched without anesthetic are all too common (just as an example)
We need a complete overhaul, not just more buildings to lock more people up in. To steal a line from EA’s book “when the asylum is really an asylum, I think I shall go and live there for ever and ever.” Now, idk about forever, but if it were anything like what the word asylum implies, I wouldn’t lie my way out of being sent there.
Kitteh — maybe, there’s certainly some science behind the idea that some of us turn our rage inward while others turn it outward, and gender based socialization definitely plays a role.
Well, next time I think the world is burdened with an over-abundance of happiness, I’m going to re-read this…
Yeah, I’d only be thinking of it as an element in some of these cases, certainly not a blanket answer. Like Cassandra said above, it doesn’t help when fuckshites like this try to reinforce the message that boys and men are entitled to sex on demand (or whatever else they want) and that violence is a legitimate response to any and all frustrations.
No shit. That’s exactly what happened to me when my Grade 7 crushboy called me a “fuckin’ mutt”. My mental jukebox instantly screeched off “Hopelessly Devoted to You” and flipped onto “Love Stinks”. It cured me of ever wanting a guy based only on how cute he was.
Ironically, another dozen years later, I got my revenge when I saw him in my doctor’s office. Know what I did to that little fucker? I glared at him. That’s all! And I even had the gratification of seeing him flush with embarrassment and shrink down in his chair like he wanted to die. He knew EXACTLY who I was. I didn’t have to confront him any further.
Oh, and it didn’t hurt that I was wearing contacts and had finally grown into my looks, too. He was no longer so hot himself…had already gone to hell by his early twenties. So much for the theory that age improves the dudes…
(And yeah, a cavalry charge would have been a fitting fate for him and his entire assholish clique, too.)
Is it just me, or is ROK actually worse than AVfM now? Not that Elam or AVfM are any good; quite the opposite, they are about as despicable as Stormfront. It is just that ROK and Roosh seem to be on a whole other level of awful. It is insane. D:
It is a little rich when guys on a site that regularly refers to women by numbers on a ten point “hotness” scale complains that women are being shallow and rejecting guys who aren’t good-looking enough.
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Seriously, I zoned out about halfway through. What the hell is wrong with these people? I can’t even this is too absurd.
MRAs keep trotting out stats like this – I’ve even seen the supposed fact that 80% of women are having sex with 20% of the men. If any of this was true, and it obviously isn’t, but if it was, and if we assume that most people desire a monogamous relationship with the person they’re having sex with, that means that a lot more men are cheating on their female partners than the reverse. Yet it’s women’s fault for not having sex with other men that they don’t want to have sex with? Huh. Does this mean I should cheat on my husband now, even though I don’t want to?
Apparently not killing people is too hard for men unless they get their rageboners sucked away into a HB10’s mouth.
Good job MRAs, you are your own worst enemy. Why are we the “man haters” again?
BreakfastMan – hi, are you new? Have a Welcome Package!
Yeah, I think RoK is worse than AVfM now. Doosh seems to be getting the worst possible stuff in his desperate search for clickbait.
(PS not “insane” – appalling, contemptible, loathesome, whatever, but it’s got nowt to do with mental illness.)
“Is it just me, or is ROK actually worse than AVfM now?”
Right this moment, I’m inclined to cast my vote for ROK being the Absolute Most Awful (Legal) Thing on the Internet.
I’m having sex with 0% of the men! Bwahahahahaha!
Wasn’t there a time when society actively prevented adolescents from being sexually active? And they somehow survived without going haywire? Also, how is pity sex better than masturbation? I mean, in terms of increasing your self-worth.
@kittehs
You…..You misandrist!!!!eleven
@kittehserf: [fistbump] We are the… whatever that percentage of the 20% are!
*is
Can’t proofread.
Me too, kittehserf and gelar!
Argenti, wholeheartedly seconded here. Canada’s really down the shitter now. We’re hopelessly lacking in community support on all levels, these days, thanks to about 20 years of healthcare cutbacks by conservafucks at all levels. If you can afford private counselling (rich families help), then you’re a ways ahead of the homeless guy mumbling behind the dumpster. But even so, you still have no place to go where you don’t have to normal-fake when you’re desperately tired of pretending.
I often wonder why I never saw my doctor when I was in a battle with major depression…and then I think back to the circumstances, and I realize that I had no safety net to speak of. It was either fake it till you make it, or just die. I didn’t have the hardcore desire to die, so I faked it until I got better. I was lucky that I could…and I have no idea where I found that energy. But it makes me mad as hell to know that NOTHING has improved in those 20 years…in fact, it’s worse now!
I hate that MRA make me feel guilty for being attracted to some men and not others. It makes me feel that my emotions are wrong. I guess that is what they intend. The claustrophobia of feeling duty bound to be in a relationship is horrible.
I think the belief that you need a woman to survive and that life without one is meaningless is fairly off putting to women. It scares me.
I personally prefer to remain single as I then don’t have to justify choosing one person over another.
::returns fistbump::
Don’t ask me to do percentages, they make my brain melt! 😀
Hahaha, I winz at misandry because king! Hypergamy! ::blows raspberry at MRAs::
markb – my guess is that with MRAs, if not teenage boys in general, the satisfaction comes from forcing a woman to have sex, not from the sex itself, let alone any notions of intimacy. They seem to run away from that.
“I hate that MRAs make me feel guilty for being attracted to some men and not others.”
Me too. I’m had this problem for feeling guilty about who I am and who I am not attracted to since . . . all my life. I suppose the person who has primarily made me feel guilty is myself. But nice guy(tms) have certainly encouraged me in that.