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Men Rights Activist: Don't expect activism from us, because "someone has to keep this society running and it damn sure ain't going to be the ladies."

MRA doing a large amount of advocacy in a comment section
MRA doing a large amount of advocacy in a comment section

So someone went to the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day to ask the assembled Men’s Rights Activists a simple question: what sort of activism do you folks do? Specifically, the visitor asked, “Do MRAs have marches or campaigns or fundraisers?”

The post didn’t get much attention, but the answers that “Chickenjuggle” got were pretty, well, instructive.

Some Men’s Rights Redditors pointed to the astounding successes of the events organized by A Voice for Men, which have drawn literally dozens of people from around the globe — that is, more people than you are likely to see waiting for a bus (except during rush hour).

Others tried to claim credit for, among other things, Movember, a month-long prostate cancer awareness campaign that most MRAs have no more connection with than I do, and for the work of various Fathers Rights organizations that MRAs, by and large, have nothing to do with.

A few pointed to fundraisers that A Voice for Men has held … for itself. (Yes, if “fundraising” is redefined to mean “sending a lot of money to Paul Elam, without knowing what exactly he even does with it,” then, yes, MRAs are pretty active fundraisers.)

And the rest mostly offered excuses.

LAMFF explained that most men have a hard time fitting activism into their busy schedule of HUNTING THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU:

LAMFF 3 points 1 day ago (8|5)  Most MRA's are too busy working to march. Someone has to keep this society running and it damn sure ain't going to be the ladies.

Others darkly intimated that it was much too dangerous for them to actually get up off of their asses and march, as they might risk their balls, or at least their jobs, and possibly even their spot on the couch. (I added that last bit; it seems like it would be important to them.)

ThePigmanAgain 5 points 1 day ago (10|5)  "Do MRAS have marches...?"  No, mostly because MRAs have an aversion to being shot in the balls by the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy.
Ianafiafe 15 points 1 day ago (21|6)  No because there are serious risks of losing jobs/pets etc. for MRAs who march.  Once the movement becomes mature and can withstand things like that there will be.

As is well-known, no other activists in the history of the world have ever put themselves willingly at risk for their ideals.

Unkleman sniffed that those silly marches were probably sour, anyway:

unkleman 1 point 1 day ago (3|2)  MRA's are more about awareness in a hostile media than feelgoodisms or PR actions. The distinction lies in that men do not need to qualify themselves for equality, once the general populace is aware, people will be inclined towards fairness. It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

That bit at the end about “false facts” is an interesting slip, huh?

TRPACC, meanwhile, insisted that sitting on your ass posting comments on the internet was, in fact, activism of the highest order:

TRPACC 1 point 1 day ago (4|3)  AVfM, CAFE and F4J are the most active in those regards, individual mra's have been doing a large amount of advocacy in comments sections of the mainstream media for years.  AVfM is currently trying to raise 20k and is going to expand.
In other words, this video from SomeGreyBloke turns out not to be a parody after all, but a dead-on accurate portrayal:

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katz
6 years ago

Sorry, wordspinner, but I’m on my way to steal your dad’s kitties right now.

kittehserf
6 years ago

I’m getting a plaintive message from a fellow buried under cats – “Please confiscate them!”

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
6 years ago

@ katz,

NOOOOO!

Can you at least turn them over to Mom?

katz
6 years ago

Well, naturally, we always grant custody to the woman.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Suffragette gets run over and kiilled by the king’s horse for daring to demand the vote = Doing Nothing.

Suffragette gets jailed and force-fed for hunger-striking to get the vote = Doing Nothing.

Women get arrested en masse, everywhere, for protesting against nukes, polluters and the general sexism of society = Doing Nothing.

MRAs whining and kvetching on the Internet about evil imaginary feminists cutting their balls off and killing their dogs, while simultaneously whining and kvetching about women preferring cats over dudes like them, so now they’re gonna Go Their Own Way to spite us = Serious Political Activism That’s The Only Thing Holding This Friggin’ Society Together.

Gee, this MRA Logic™ just keeps getting more logical all the time.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

So their activism is hands-on! Hands on keyboard, hands on mouse, hands on phones to harass the latest target.

…and hands on penis, wanking their nuts off. Because how else can they show those castrating bitches?

marinerachel
marinerachel
6 years ago

Guys. You guys. An MRA took my hedgehog.

I don’t have any evidence for this but I’m SURE it’s what happened.

moldybrehd
6 years ago

Most MRA’s are too busy working to march. Someone has to keep this society running and it damn sure ain’t going to be the ladies.

Probably because the ladies** don’t want this particular version of society to keep running.

**I hate the term ladies. Seriously, it’s overly gendered and yet poorly defined. Plus, after a while my eyes start to see it as ‘ladles’, and it’s all downhill from there.

moldybrehd
6 years ago

Guys. You guys. An MRA took my hedgehog.

It was probably an MGTOW – they believe pricks should stick together. You should file a report with the Feminist Pet-Confiscating Stormtroopers of Pluto.

Shiraz
Shiraz
6 years ago

That one dude’s comment when someone asked, “do MRAs have marches?” He answered, “…No, because (we) have an aversion to being shot in the balls.”
Huh? There have been no MRA parades, or a serious epidemic of MRA dude’s being shot in the balls. Where’s his fear comming from? Too much Sigmund Freud? That dude could make ANYTHING about castration anxiety.

katz
6 years ago

Plus, after a while my eyes start to see it as ‘ladles’, and it’s all downhill from there.

All you single ladles, all you single ladles, put your handles up…

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
6 years ago

I was feeling kind of bad that Canada seems to be a hotbed of MRAs showing up in Actual Real Life and doing (stupid) things, like the poster campaigns in Edmonton and Saskatoon, and the rally in Toronto. And then I noticed that those groups have some very prominent women in them. GWW in Edmonton, Typhoid Blue in S’toon. Not sure about Toronto, don’t care enough to go looking (kind of assuming that GWW organized it from Edm).

So now I’m assuming that, as with almost every organization run by men (I’m thinking churches), the actual work is being done by women.

Viscaria
Viscaria
6 years ago

Is there anything we feminists won’t steal from men? Pets, ice cream, precious precious sperm…

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

I don’t mind the term “ladies”, but when an MRAsshat writes it, I can just hear the Cheeto-stinking sneer in it.

Alice Sanguinaria
6 years ago

Viscaria – Um…. women won’t steal …. um…. um….

*two decades later*

… uh, I’m still working on it! Uh…

Xen
Xen
6 years ago

Advocacy though comments? So trolls then. Makes sense.

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
6 years ago
kittehserf
6 years ago

Alice – we won’t steal MRAs! Because who’d want them?

**I hate the term ladies. Seriously, it’s overly gendered and yet poorly defined. Plus, after a while my eyes start to see it as ‘ladles’, and it’s all downhill from there.

Ladles of the world unite! Anti-being-dunked-in-hot-soup activism now!

(Hey, it’s as pithy and makes as much sense as anything any MRA ever wrote.)

opium4themasses
opium4themasses
6 years ago

@kittehserf Sauce for the goose is good for the gander?

Alice Sanguinaria
6 years ago

kittehs – HAH! Good point! 😀

kittehserf
6 years ago

opium4themasses – sauce is MISLADLRY!

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
6 years ago

Feminist Pet-Confiscating Police

First they came for my wife, and I didn’t speak out, because she was already over 30.

Then they came for my dog, and I didn’t speak out, because she was a real bitch.

Then they came for my cat, and I didn’t speak out, because she was way too independent for my tastes.

Then they came for my goldfish, and I thought the joke was on them, because the fish wasn’t really made of gold.

Then they came for my Tamagotchi, and I just thought that Asian virtual pets were overrated for their submissive nature anyway.

They still haven’t come for my cactus.

Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

Lol! If that goldfish was being kept in a typical goldfish bowl, I want to come for it and rescue it to a suitably large and well filtered tank (those fuckers get BIG and are shit machines [like, make a fist, now have it constantly pooping…that’s pretty much an adult goldfish])

Deoridhe
6 years ago

Popping in to say Happy Holidays to Manbooberz everywhere. Hope you’re staying warm and well fed on Mamoth steaks.

Alice Sanguinaria
6 years ago

Arctic Ape – They did eventually come for my cactus. But I didn’t speak out, for I hoped that the spines will lodge in their butts.

They then came back for the sand, but I didn’t need it anymore because they took my cactus.

They still haven’t taken my pet rock.

sn0rkmaiden
sn0rkmaiden
6 years ago

Love the grey man!

While I don’t agree with the methods employed by Fathers4Justice, at least those guys do attempt to do something to help the men they represent, though again, one of their people at the top is a woman.

valerienorth
valerienorth
6 years ago

Deep down they know if they ever did march if wouldn’t come off very well. What would they chant or write on their signs? If they were being honest it would go something like this-

Spread those legs
We need sex
Wimmin were made
To suck dick

Or possible something about scented candles and hand bags being evil. Maybe bear fighting?

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Equal sauce is misandry! So are women having cats…and a Cactus of One’s Own!

Snork Maiden
6 years ago

@Valerienorth: Indeed.

Placards demanding:

‘WE DON’T WANT CHANGE!!’

‘PUT THINGS BACK HOW THEY WERE!! (though they were never really like that it’s just feeeeemale lies)

‘WE DEMAND THE RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY WOMEN’S AUTONOMY!!’ (not that they really have any, that’s just a feeeeemale lie too)

‘SEX FOR UNATTRACTIVE MEN WHO HAVE NO INTERPERSONAL SKILLS!!’

‘ABOLISH UGLY WOMEN!!’

‘STOP WOMEN HAVING SEX UNLESS IT’S WITH US!!’

And so on. I’m starting to wish they would march so people could point and laugh at them.

seraph4377
6 years ago

And then I noticed that those groups have some very prominent women in them. GWW in Edmonton, Typhoid Blue in S’toon. Not sure about Toronto, don’t care enough to go looking (kind of assuming that GWW organized it from Edm).

So now I’m assuming that, as with almost every organization run by men (I’m thinking churches), the actual work is being done by women.

Wouldn’t be at all surprised. But unlike the women in those churches, the FeMRA’s are getting exactly what they deserve.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

I suspect they’re using FeMRAs as mouthpieces to try to make it look like they aren’t sexist and misogynous as hell. As though that strategy weren’t utterly transparent. And as though they weren’t going to dispose of these women as soon as they could…

dallasapple
6 years ago

I completely agree they don’t want change . Too many references to the good ole 1950’s to believe they are O.K with how things are .Just needs some tweaking for men’s issues like prostate cancer research and more women paying for dates.

Too many references to going back to fault divorce after the phrase “75% of women file for divorce” . Too many references to what in effect would make it more intimidating for women to report rape . Too many intimidating references towards women to marry very young. Too many references to consent to sex in marriage is a given the day you say I do, its assumed from that day forward its not a question anymore. Too many references for the desire for the “return of ” clear cut ,well defined ,male and female “gender roles ” and etc ,etc…

That’s not change ,unless you wan’t to call it “changing back.”

kittehserf
6 years ago

Bina – it’d help their strategy if the feMRAs weren’t as misogynist as hell, too.

dallasapple
6 years ago

–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points 2 days ago
“Do MRAS have marches…?”
No, mostly because MRAs have an aversion to being shot in the balls by the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy.

LOL!! Right …personally for myself you need to realize you aren’t worth going to jail over . Besides it would be more fun to gather with friends, with some lawn chairs , lots of popcorn ,sit on the curb / and laugh our asses off at you . That is if you can find enough men WITH the balls to show up for a march. I doubt that will happen .

kittehserf
6 years ago

I’d love to know who the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy are. Are we talking the Sturmtroppen of WWI, or something more like Star Wars?

It couldn’t possibly be the various US police forces, could it? I wouldn’t have thought a handful of white guys whining about loss of privilege would attract such attention.

Gen
Gen
6 years ago

something more like Star Wars

I’m picturing Darth Vader and the works. Talk about your father’s custody battles!

dallasapple
6 years ago

Marches? Well, to have a march you need enough people willing to publicly label themselves under the MRA banner, and even then the focus of marches is primarily just awareness. Considering that I’ve gotten harassing calls to my job and family for coming out as an MRA I can’t say I recommend it — My boss is understanding and sympathetic to my political activism, but not everyone can be so fortunate.

Way to RALLY for your serious men’s issues ! While men are being seriously and systematically discriminated against/abused (by women) you ‘recommend’ not coming out as an MRA?

Such bravery it takes my breath away laughing.

dallasapple
6 years ago

[–]Ianafiafe 11 points 2 days ago
No because there are serious risks of losing jobs/pets etc. for MRAs who march.
Once the movement becomes mature and can withstand things like that there will be.

But wait a minute ? I thought that was already happening anyway because of misandry /feminism /divorce ? Come on seriously what do you have to lose ?????

dallasapple
6 years ago

It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

O.K my eyebrows are really crinkled now . Is this saying to combat lies with lies in order to challenge the lies ?

dallasapple
6 years ago

Yah ..I think he means Star Wars.

dallasapple
6 years ago

Some Men’s Rights Redditors pointed to the astounding successes of the events organized by A Voice for Men, which have drawn literally dozens of people from around the globe — that is, more people than you are likely to see waiting for a bus (except during rush hour).

David !!!!!!!!! I’m ‘in love” with your smart ass!!!!!!!!!!!

James Yakura
6 years ago

Original version:

It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

Likely intention:

It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with: false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

Apparently disambiguating punctuation is misandry.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

it’d help their strategy if the feMRAs weren’t as misogynist as hell, too.

Heh. Sooner or later, one of those useful tools is going to slip up and show herself insufficiently self-hating…and when she does, it’s heave-ho, over you go, off with The Wooly Bumblebee.

That prospect alone makes me giggly with anticipation…

dallasapple
6 years ago

Yes ..sooner or later they will get tired of being regarded as their pet dogs. Being kept on a leash and patted on the head wont be enough .

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

And if they propose anything which might actually benefit men and boys in need, they’ll be shafted so fast, they won’t know what hit them. That’s what Ms. Bumble did. It didn’t sit well with El Elam.

dallasapple
6 years ago

Right . What might actually help unless it somehow punishes women will be immediately rejected . They “need” to stay victims otherwise what is the excuse to have rage gatherings against evil feminist ? They don’t want harmony they want control over women .Its so obvious.

This video (its a Christian MAN talking about why women are divorcing) is met with outrage if you suggest it to an MRA . They retort its nonsense blaming ‘everything on men”. Its a short video and I wouldn’t post it if I didn’t believe its a big part of the problem. They RECOIL in disgust!

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Heaven forfend that we leave them if they don’t love us. We’re only supposed to be there to burnish their egos, wash their socks, make them sandwiches, give them kids…and suck their dicks. Expecting anything in return, even a paltry show of love, is misandry!

kittehserf
6 years ago

But of course. Only a mangina likes, let alone loves, women. Or any other being except himself, for that matter.

Brooked
Brooked
6 years ago

@James

Likely intention:

“It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with: false facts that have been too long unchallenged.”

Apparently disambiguating punctuation is misandry.

Avoiding redundancy and having a basic grasp of English grammar is also Misandry, which is why this ass-backwards sentence is a prime example MRA activism.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Thinking, speaking, writing and acting in a clear and on-risible fashion is deepest, darkest misandry!