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Red Piller: Unless white women start "sh*tting out" more babies, western civilization is doomed

A shipment of white babies.
A shipment of white babies.

So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats  fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)

It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.

Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:

Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …

What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.

So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.

Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.

Mr. Man continues:

Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.

Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!

And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:

[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.

I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.

It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?

Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.

As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.

The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.

Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.

So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.

I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.

Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.

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Robert
Robert
10 years ago

My parents had seven children. Can’t wait to tell my mother she wasn’t really white – anyone got a Ouija board I can borrow?

Socialkenny’s shtik reminds me of an argument I had with an Africentic acquaintance some years ago – he was insisting that Cleopatra VII, last of the Ptolemies, was black. She was Egyptian, after all, and Egypt is in Africa, so q.e.d. I explained that he could use the same argument to prove that P.W. Botha was black. Didn’t go over well.

HeatherN
10 years ago

Also, Socialkenny, I’m curious what the point is of your assertion that most white women in NYC aren’t from America. – I mean, okay seeing as no one’s citing demographic data and you’re basing your assertion on completely anecdotal evidence..whatever, let’s pretend you’re right. What point are you trying to make?

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Oh yeah, if anyone’s curious: here are the demographics of NYC from the US Census.

totient
totient
10 years ago

“Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.”

Brilliant summary.

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

“(Remembers to tell friend from NY that he’s not white. This is going to be an awkward conversation, since he’s Irish.)”

Yours too?!

Kenny, dude, getting on a tour bus kinda gives it away. And clearly you missed the part about asking for directions (repeatedly, I somehow get lost in a grid). Also, oh yeah, the business men in the snazzy suits!

Maybe, just maybe, the clubs you go to aren’t real popular with the locals, what a thought!

Ok, I have someone I need to inform that he isn’t white, this should get interesting!

acrannymint
10 years ago

Sorry didn’t read enough in the comments to realize what a Gumby Socialkenny is.No offense is meant.

ceebarks
ceebarks
10 years ago

yeah, my great-grandmother was one of 13. Mostly English ancestry, possibly some Native background, too. Nine survived to adulthood, all but one of those had families of their own, but none had more than a handful of kids. My great-grandma stopped at two.

Jump forward a generation or two, and you find people just don’t generally have 13 kids anymore. That has a whole lot more to do with access to reasonably reliable, well-accepted birth control and a modicum of material comfort, not… melanin.

Freakin’ weird. ha

Socialkenny
10 years ago

@Acran- You raised a good point because lots of Italians do NOT consider themselves to be white, and you know that, and the average American knows that.

You cannot call a New York Italian white or he will fuck you up! They prefer to be called black if anything, but Italian Americans, the ones on the East Coast primarily, do NOT consider themselves white.

Also, to take it a step further, lots of Italians have African/black blood, which is why Sicilians are the color they are.

You know this and history proves it with the Hanibal invasion of Italy. So a great # of Italians have black in them.

Socialkenny
10 years ago
Reply to  ceebarks

You’re still basing your argument on government figures and stats. Not credible.

ignotussomnium
ignotussomnium
10 years ago

Dude are you literally stopping every single white lady on the street. What the fuck.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Are we at the “one drop rule” now? *snore*

kittehserf
10 years ago

Chucklefuck Kenny, are you prating some sort of faux evolutionary bullshit about women’s “purpose” here? You’re no better than fundies with their notions of women’s job being to bear children until we die. Don’t give me the naturalistic schtick or any other that just turns into “men are totes great and do all the important stuff, and women are things to be fucked and give birth and do all the childcare”. You’ve nothing original to add on that old line, sonny.

Also, as has been pointed out – I’m not any sort of USian. Neither am I upset about what races people are, or what the numbers are, or whatever. I see plenty of Australians who’re of mixed-race ancestry, and that’s fine by me. Why shouldn’t it be? You seem to be more confused than usual if you think we’re the ones hand-wringing about “the white race” disappearing.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

On credibility: data > anecdotes from some random dude whose identity we can’t verify

Someone must have skipped class the day they talked about information literacy.

serrana
serrana
10 years ago

So if there are only three races, what race are Italians?

Socialkenny
10 years ago

@Heather- I work in a historical museum currently. So don’t try fooling me into your garbage. Fool someone else, but I work in a museum.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

serrana – I suspect “Negroid” (eww, i feel dirty now), because I think the “one drop rule” was invoked here:

You cannot call a New York Italian white or he will fuck you up! They prefer to be called black if anything, but Italian Americans, the ones on the East Coast primarily, do NOT consider themselves white.

Also, to take it a step further, lots of Italians have African/black blood, which is why Sicilians are the color they are.

You know this and history proves it with the Hanibal invasion of Italy. So a great # of Italians have black in them.

serrana
serrana
10 years ago

Fool someone else, but I work in a museum.

This is adorable.

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

“You cannot call a New York Italian white or he will fuck you up! They prefer to be called black if anything, but Italian Americans, the ones on the East Coast primarily, do NOT consider themselves white.

Also, to take it a step further, lots of Italians have African/black blood, which is why Sicilians are the color they are.”

The fucking fuck is this shit? Go see where I mentioned my full blooded Italian grandmother, and the visiting NYC thing — I’m within two hours by train, from the north. East coast Italian in other words. And yet to meet a single Italian who’d rather be called black than white. Now, a preference for Italian over white, sure, but no, you aren’t going to get “fucked up” for calling an Italian white. I mean, unless you’re being an asswipe, but then it isn’t the white part that’s the issue!

And perhaps you missed this lesson, but Sicilians being called black is thanks to a history of Italian racism. Don’t do it. That might actually get you fucked up.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Also, sweetie, appeal to authority isn’t an argument.

ignotussomnium
ignotussomnium
10 years ago

” Fool someone else, but I work in a museum.”
Oh my god that is the best comment.

I WORK IN A MUSEUM; YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID

Socialkenny
10 years ago

@Heather- The reason I raised the NYC argument was to highlight that the white population in NYC is a minority. Most white girls you run into in NYC are either tourists or not born in America but living here now.

BTW, I am NOT an American. Born in the Caribbean islands, immigrated to NYC with my parents at the age of 8. I’m now 31.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

ignotussomnium – Oh gods, what’s next?

“I READ THIS BOOK BY SOME FAMOUS GUY ONCE, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.”

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Actually, most Italians I know or am related to would just stare at you like you grew an extra head if you called them black. It makes that little sense. (I might have to try that at the next family reunion!)

serrana
serrana
10 years ago

serrana – I suspect “Negroid” (eww, i feel dirty now), because I think the “one drop rule” was invoked here:

This is fucked up on so many levels.

HeatherN
10 years ago

@Socialkenny: And what, exactly, is your job in this historical museum? And which museum?

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