So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)
It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.
Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:
Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …
What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.
So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.
A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.
Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.
Mr. Man continues:
Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.
Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!
And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:
[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.
I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.
It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?
Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.
As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.
The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.
Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.
So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.
I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.
Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.
The truth really hurts around here.
I’m against the MRA and Manosphere because of their bigotry and racist crap, but the redditor who’s under the proverbial microscope of this article, is spot on when he speaks about the declining white race.
You clowns who want to pretend that this isn’t the case are obviously saddened by the reality and that in the next century, there might not be another Caucasian walking the Earth.
Sad reality to accept, so the I don’t expect anyone to NOT try to bash me for this.
The only way that the white race can survive heading into the next 100 years, is if they integrate and inter-mix with blacks. Oh; but that is the case and that is actually why lots of white women are breeding with black men. It’s a subconscious survival tactic. Blacks don’t have to mix with whites for the blacks survival. But the whites have to mix for their survival, or it’d means the end to the white race as the red piller guy wrote about.
auggziliary – Yeah, far as i know, it’s 100% outdated and the vast majority of anthropologists/archaeologists/whatever don’t use the term anymore. The fact that “mongoloid” used to be a slur for people with Down syndrome might have helped with its decline.
MordsithJ — should I ask pecunium? I mean, we do need the existence of NYC verified by a certified penis owner right?
Auggz — yeah, I’m pretty sure you’re right about that one.
Choose one.
…and you missed the point Kenny. I am surprised, or not.
We just plain don’t give a fuck, other than to comment on the racism and incorrect anecdotes. (Including, btw, the lack of white people in NYC)
@Argenti- White tourist! Are you blind to your own comment? I specifically said, you can hardly see a white-born American in NYC. You co-signed my point by saying you seen a bunch of white “TOURISTS” in midtown or downtown. That’s exactly what I was saying. Those white are NOT American by birth. White Americans by birth in NYC do NOT exists.
David, you should add “nofollow” to your links to these sites you talk about, and to the boob roll. That way you can talk about them as much as you like without giving them any of your google juice.
Why and how to do it: http://google.about.com/od/searchengineoptimization/qt/how_to_make_nofollow_tag.htm
Motherhood doesn’t require providing and hard work? Fuck you.
http://i.imgur.com/TDemhE5.jpg
But, yeah, I never bored my kids.
I don’t want to bear kids OR bore holes in them. That seems like something CPS would object to.
Oi you do get that people from other parts of America visit NYC right? And I doubt the helpful people at the verizon store when my dumb ass got lost were tourists. Nor all the business men in their snazzy suits. Nor, for that matter, the so white he’s a redhead dude that I was visiting (though technically he doesn’t actually live in the city itself, so does that make him a tourist?)
(Remembers to tell friend from NY that he’s not white. This is going to be an awkward conversation, since he’s Irish.)
@Kitteh- So what is and should be the biological purpose of women? Isn’t it to breed, replicate? Do you subscribe to any religious text (perhaps the Bible)? Didn’t you know that the primal purpose of any woman is to bear offspring? You didn’t know that?
With your mentality, it is also the reason why white are the minority in America. This may sound degrading, but so-called white Americans lack foresight. They don’t think of race, but think of $$, wealth and status.
Well the thing is, $$, wealth and status won’t ensure the survival of your kind.
Blacks, as messed up as we are in America, we at least have the foresight to know to continue breeding because #’s mean power, and we can take over America in the near future with sheer #’s. Whites don’t think that far because they lack foresight and are too consumed with money and status, which cannot get you anywhere when money and status become obsolete as it will be and as is currently in a down economy.
Calm down.
Yes, Kitteh is causing the lack of white people in America, by not even being on the same continent! How dare you exist outside of the US KItteh, wasting your whiteness!
Now in the CORRECT thread!
Apparently, since I’m not indigenous, I’m not a TRU American, even though my birth certificate would attest to the fact that I’m born here and even though I’ve only been out of the United States twice.
It’s akin to the “Where are you from?”/”America”/”No, where are you from?” conversation.
I have a friend who’s Viet who used to get pulled into that conversation all the time. Creepy white guys never would accept “Cleveland” as the correct response.
If Mr C and I had had kids I’m not sure how that would have helped to boost up the number of white people in the US…
CassandraSays – I got lucky and was born in an Asian/Hispanic majority community, so no one’s ever dared to pull that shit on me. I suspect that if I ever move out of my state that I’ll see this conversation a lot.
@ Alice
What’s worse is that these conversations were happening in San Francisco, where people really ought to know better.
@Argenti- Lol dude, I’m a Pick-Up Artist; I pick up women for recreation and a living.
You’re basing your argument of the NYC demographics on the so-called tourists you see in NYC.
How do you know that they’re even tourists since you aren’t talking to them?
I on the other hand, as a Pick-Up Artist, it’s my duty to approach and open hundreds of women on a daily basis.
I’ve spoken to thousands of random women over the past 2 years alone (in NYC). How many have you struck up a chat with?
My point is, if I’m in downtown Manhattan and spot a white girl, the moment I try to pick her up by stopping her, the accent stands out.
Therefore, you point is correct: the average white girl in NYC is NOT a white-born American but a tourists from Europe, Canada or Australia.
I know this because I talk to them while you just speculate that they’re tourists.
@ auggz
True wealth is measured in bitcoins.
CassandraSays – … wowwww Good job San Francisco. You’re totally the pinnacle of a post-racial society. *rolls eyes*
Nope, nope and nope. Go read Race, Monogamy, and Other Lies They Told You written by an actual biological anthropologist, mate. Also…no archaeologist I know uses the term “mongoloid” to refer to people from Asia. Your knowledge of anthropology is a few decades out of date.
….SocialKenny, surely you are aware that the main thing determining fertility rate in the modern world is culture and birth control access, not raw fertility? Even assuming your melanin/fertility connection holds some kind of validity, which I doubt, it’s not the main thing controlling population growth.
I don’t know of any groups in the US that are consistently popping out babies from menarche to menopause with no spacing or limitation of births, except maybe the Amish? Even traditionalist Catholics use NFP and/or relatively late marriage to keep the kid-count under control.
Also, last I checked, birth rates for black women in the US was pretty close to the white rate. http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
at any rate, I’m not worried about the fate of “white” people. It’s an odd idea when you get right down to it. If my future great-grandchildren are 1/4th white or whatever, then… so what?
I just had to jump ahead on this the simple fact is, white women just aren’t build physically, nor genetically to bore lots of kids. Maybe Italians aren’t considered white in that guy’s world but my grandmother was one of 10. My aunt had 6. I have a number of Catholic co-workers who are from large families (Irish being the most prolific). I just looked at the grammar (“build” and “to bore”) and had to shake my head