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Red Piller: Unless white women start "sh*tting out" more babies, western civilization is doomed

A shipment of white babies.
A shipment of white babies.

So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats  fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)

It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.

Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:

Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …

What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.

So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.

Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.

Mr. Man continues:

Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.

Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!

And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:

[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.

I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.

It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?

Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.

As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.

The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.

Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.

So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.

I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.

Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.

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MordsithJ
10 years ago

Girly drinks: They don’t get girlier than a Pink Squirrel. They’ve gone out of style, unfortunately. Either than or a Brandy Alexander, but that one’s also yesterday’s news. Girly drinks have to be trendy in order to be girly, otherwise they’re Old Lady drinks.

katz
10 years ago

I love that fruits get disqualified for eating by not being sour enough. I respect that.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Random – what is the girliest girly drink that’s most likely to be scorned by dudebros? I’m thinking either a Midori sour or an apple martini.

Eons ago, this old lady was patronized by a misodge offering me a Cosmopolitan to calm my riled up feeeemale nerves after I cleaned his clock in an Internet exchange. I can’t stand ’em, and told him as much. Do they still count, or are they old hat? (These guys all go by Sex and the City as their measuring stick of all things “empowered feeeemale”, correct?)

I’m also not partial to anything sweet and vodka-based ending in “tini”. Original Martinis are gin and vermouth (Martini & Rossi) only. The vodka “Martini” came later, and is now sadly unrecognizable under the onslaught of sweet goo that gets served in oversized Martini glasses. Anyway, all that flavored vodka crap is basically just spiked Kool-Aid with an inflated price tag, when you get right down to it…

Come to think of it, I try to ignore “girly” drinks as much as possible, since they tend to be loaded with sugar, artificial flavors and colorants, and other cloying things my stomach won’t keep down. I stick with wine, beer, and if I must have a mixed drink, I make it a Caesar (vodka, Clamato, and in my case, hot sauce.)

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

Reminds me. When we were away on the weekend, one restaurant was offering a “Xmas special” drink.

Peppermint martini !!?!%$^#!

Who on earth wants toothpaste flavoured gin?

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Who on earth wants toothpaste flavoured gin?

Or worse, vermouth. >shudder<

often_partisan
often_partisan
10 years ago

This idiot does realise that Russia has freaking major demographic problems?
No?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

How now, we’ve decided the Argentini is vodka and mango juice, after a typo and my little mixed drink of choice. Not excessively sweet, made with straight vodka (actually, Gordon’s, the cheap stuff, hence the mangos)

The flavored vodka definitely makes me side eye it though. Just a way to overprice something you could easily mix up yourself. Which I guess describes a lot of the alcohol industry huh?

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Kittehs

talking as if Hannibal was black? Yeah, right, the Carthaginians weren’t of Phoenician/Fertile Crescent ancestry at all.

…I though Hannibal WAS black. Certainly not white. Like, Cleopatra, yeah, she was of Greek descent, she was considered notable for even SPEAKING Egyptian at all, but Hannibal was Carthaginian, which last I heard, yes there was Phoenician ancestry, but a lot of native North African and there was definitely a lot of trade going on with the Mediterranean. I find it highly unlikely that they were white.

And that’s completely side-stepping the monster headache of racial categories being completely different that long ago. I’ve just been hearing a lot of POC getting really het up over white folks claiming their people lately, and maybe I’m missing something here, but…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Hey, can we not repeat the “girly drinks are pathetic” thing in the very thread in which we’re mocking how sexist that idea is? Lots of people like the Jolly Rancher martinis, and that’s OK.

Other recent favorites included a fancy Vietnamese restaurant that offered a kaffir lime martini. That was pretty tasty. The Thai basil one, however, was a little odd. I love Thai basil but I’m not so sure I like it in beverage form.

kittehserf
10 years ago

LBT – but it isn’t black/white as the only alternatives, is it? Did it read like I said Hannibal was white, as in implying Caucasian? That’s not what I was talking about. I’m talking northern African or Fertile Crescent background, semitic or whatever one might call it, not some sort of faux-European. My point is that Kenny talks as if everyone from Africa is one type of person, what he calls Negro, which is a lot of baloney.

As for drinks – would just not drinking alcohol be sufficiently offputting for these idiots?

I’ll have a strawberry lemonade, please. Wonderful flavour.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

I should just like to clarify that Ian is not my middle name ….

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

The only alcoholic drink I’ve ever enjoyed was Bailey’s with milk. I find the taste of alcohol absolutely repugnant, and so our no-booze rule for our meds doesn’t inconvenience me much at all. (It does, however, sadden my husband, who actually LIKES to drink sometimes.)

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Kittehs

Okay, fine. Long as we aren’t trying to play that Hannibal is white. I’ll leave it to black folks to decide what being black actually means.

kittehserf
10 years ago

I should just like to clarify that Ian is not my middle name ….

Just as well, considering. 😉

My real name is, of course, Kit T. E. Hserf.

kittehserf
10 years ago

LBT – exactly, unless said black person happens to be Kenny-the-idiot who thinks anyone born south of Scandinavia is black. 😛

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

We should really dig up some You Killed Kenny You Bastards clips for the next time he shows up (when he’ll presumably have moved to, I dunno, Paris? Barcelona?).

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

Speaking of race in history, the reason I even brought it up is because I’ve been bingeing on medievalpoc on tumblr. It’s like history lessons through art, only they’re FREE! 😀 Also breaking my brain on how white-washed my local history is, which is a good braincleaner.

kittehserf
10 years ago

What’s the link for that, LBT? I’d love to see if a picture of trumperters from one of Henry VIII’s tournaments is there.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

How now, we’ve decided the Argentini is vodka and mango juice, after a typo and my little mixed drink of choice. Not excessively sweet, made with straight vodka (actually, Gordon’s, the cheap stuff, hence the mangos)

That sounds rather good, actually…provided it’s real mango juice, and not some kiddie drinkbox stuff fobbed off as such! :p

The flavored vodka definitely makes me side eye it though. Just a way to overprice something you could easily mix up yourself. Which I guess describes a lot of the alcohol industry huh?

Yup. Which is why I tend to stick to the basics. Plain ol’ vodka (currently boycotting Russia), brandy, rum, etc.

Also, I’m an Old. The yucky kid stuff was just starting to hit the bars when I came of age (ugh, Fuzzy Navels and Long Island Iced Tea!), and after trying it, I discovered it didn’t agree with me. So I quit bothering with new drink fads. I don’t miss any of ’em. Not worth the money…

I *will* make an exception for Bailey’s, because it’s cream-based and doesn’t upset my irritable gut. I can dilute it with half-and-half if I’m so inclined, or just pour it over ice cream for dessert. Plus it’s yummy.

(Or coffee liquors, which are time-honored and again, can be diluted with coffee, and/or milk or cream.)

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

In honor of the dignity of history, for my first medievalpoc link, I shall give you butts.

kittehserf
10 years ago

::childish giggling::

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Bina

Oh man, I miss Bailey’s and ice cream. It was always so delicious. I kind of miss being able to have a drink and flirt a bit with hubby too — it’s a novel sensation not to have the usual paranoia in the back of my mind, but I can happily have a couple drinks in my home, watch a movie, then shove hubby against a wall. Good times!

Pfeh. God willing, this stupid depression will let up and I can get off these damn meds someday so I can do that again.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Here’s hoping! Depression’s a real mountain of shit, that’s for sure. I found that Vitamin B complex helped me with mine, which leads me to believe that in my case, it was possibly a matter of brain-not-getting-enough-nutrients. It was worst when I was on the Pill, too, so switched formulae and experienced some relief; more still when I came off the Pill altogether. I’ve been well for close onto 20 years now, so there is hope…and I hope you find your working method.

Meanwhile, that gargoyle was a hoot. Almost as explicit as the Sheela-na-gigs, but with the added benefit of it peeing on unwary people’s heads. Reminds me a bit of the Miller’s Tale from Chaucer, too.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Also, what is up with this thread? Everytime I reply to it, it shunts me back to the page before the last one. Very bonky and annoying…

kittehserf
10 years ago

Yeah, WordPress got the stupids again the other day, and it’s still doing it to me in this thread, too.

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