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Red Piller: Unless white women start "sh*tting out" more babies, western civilization is doomed

A shipment of white babies.
A shipment of white babies.

So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats  fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)

It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.

Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:

Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …

What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.

So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.

Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.

Mr. Man continues:

Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.

Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!

And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:

[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.

I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.

It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?

Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.

As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.

The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.

Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.

So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.

I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.

Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.

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kittehserf
10 years ago

I hated what Jackson did to LOTR.

Yeah, dumping the whole Scouring of the Shire was idiotic. A piece of major importance about how terrible this war was at this local, recognisable level, to show the damage it does even in such a seemingly safe place … but nooo, they leave that out.

I gather Sir Christopher was pretty pissed off that Saruman just disappeared from the story, too.

Oh good, it’s not just me! I hated the look of it and everything I read about it. I really hope he leaves The Silmarillion alone. It’s just so not suitable for being turned into a film. The thought of some generic-pretty Hollywood types as any of the Elves … gah.

A wyvern? They turned the beautiful Smaug into a wyvern? WHY? Why do they make these needless changes?

kittehserf
10 years ago

Anyone want to send some cold our way? It was lovely here today, but it’s going up to 40C on Thursday. FORTY FUCKING CELSIUS.

Shaenon
10 years ago

Oh, lol. Somehow I missed the “as a curator I interact with visitors” nonsense. Dude, no. Unless you’re in a VERY small museum with a minimal staff, there is no way the “lead curator” is manning the door. And by minimal, I mean to the point where there is no “lead curator” because the entire staff consists of maybe one or two people.

My husband is the curator at a museum that small, and even he doesn’t work the front desk unless they’re completely out of interns.

I know I’m late to this thread, but when’s the next time someone will need more information about being the curator at a two-employee museum?

cloudiah
10 years ago

I would just like everyone to watch this video in which a MRA/libertarian gets eviscerated:

Shaenon, but is he the lead curator? ‘Cos that’s totally different. Also, does he speak languages?

katz
10 years ago

You guys have it all wrong. It is a museum of metals. He is the lead curator.

cloudiah
10 years ago

BTW, I’m still listening to that video and it does get kinda ableist.

katz
10 years ago

Fuck, someone already made that joke. That’s what I get for not reading the whole thread.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Fuck, someone already made that joke. That’s what I get for not reading the whole thread.

Mewhahahahahaha!

(That’s a Furrinati laugh. I’ve been practising.)

katz
10 years ago

CURSE YOU FURRINATI FOR RUINING MY JOKE!!!

But wait, I work(ed) at a museum! So the joke is mine! You have to go find a different one. That’s how it works, right?

HeatherN
10 years ago

That joke belongs in a museum.

Or something.

kittehserf
10 years ago

But I not only worked in a museum, I got to cut up dead things! And the one thing I broke during the great packing-up days was a piece of GALENA!

::blows raspberry::

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

@Bina – adorable kitty. Does she have extra toes or is that the effect of snow-shadows?

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

And on the subject of perception vs reality, an interesting graph on the UK has been doing the rounds on Twitter,

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/411803705080422402/photo/1

courtesy of:

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality.aspx

Puts anecdata nicely into perspective.

tinyorc
10 years ago
Reply to  Socialkenny

That is not even remotely what a curator does.

vaiyt
10 years ago

For the people complaining about the cold: please. Want to switch? Try having Christmas under 90+F. Santa is going to die of heat stroke here.

Valerian
10 years ago

So, Kenny, whatever happened to that lucrative day-job from that mythical old lady CEO incapable of lifting heavy objects or Googling up your weird blog? Museums don’t have CEOs.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
10 years ago

I’ll gladly swap some of our cold with folks who are suffering from the heat. Yesterday we had 15 inches of snow and the temperature right now is zero. Fahrenheit. I’m surprised they don’t measure it in Kelvin here.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
10 years ago

*coughs*

The temperature here at the moment is 11. Below zero. Fahrenheit. (That’s -24 degrees C). And that’s not factoring wind chill. To put this in perspective, when it’s this cold one’s eyes and nostrils freeze during a one minute walk from the office to the car.

But really, after it gets below 0 it’s just fucking cold, I can’t even tell the difference anymore.

Nepenthe
Nepenthe
10 years ago

And for the record, I do not own a polar bear rifle nor live in a place that one generally needs one, so I’m a bit miffed. The only places that I can find in the world that are as cold as home right now have polar bear and reindeer and all we have is regular deer. *grumpy*

Christine
Christine
10 years ago

If I got a quarter for every time this was said to me, I’d be rich

Shaun DarthBatman Day
10 years ago

I’ll take the heat. We had snow every day until we got freezing rain 2 days ago. Then yesterday it thawed *just enough* to flood the roads, so when I leave in 20 minutes I’ll be driving on a skating rink.

I’m thinking 90F would clean that up nicely. Plus I love the heat. I don’t care that my ancestors were from Siberia.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
10 years ago

kitteh, totally agree about the close to home aspect, too. Also, if he can make Smaug a Wyvern, why can’t he make a female? So much headdesk.

I know you don’t know. I am frustrated. But I am glad to not be alone re: the Shire.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
10 years ago

I used triangle brackets there, and apparently they get eaten. Whoops. *…why can’t he make (insert dwarf name here) a female?

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
10 years ago

So, this seems an appropriately timed post for this comment. I had to vent some frustrations. I was at a work party last night and I was talking about history with someone. (Everyone else just wanted to talk about work….really? Can’t we talk about ANYTHING else?) He began by talking about the struggles of white Catholics in the 19th century in America–particularly those of Irish/Polish/Slovakian etc. ethnicity, and how they had to work in the mines and how a lot of them died. So, I’m agreeing somewhat with him (Catholics were no well thought of and were targets of the KKK at one point, I believe)….then he says “I really think people of those ethnicities had it worse than the slaves”. I kinda looked at him…decided not to press the issue. There’s no convincing people like that.

He also said “that’s why I think we need affirmative action for white people of certain ethnicities”. That’s when I said “yes, because if we need one thing in the business world, it’s more white people!” I was very shocked.

laisa
laisa
10 years ago

Is Kenny gone? I wanted to ask what Spanish slang he knew…
Oh well.

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