So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)
It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.
Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:
Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …
What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.
So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.
A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.
Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.
Mr. Man continues:
Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.
Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!
And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:
[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.
I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.
It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?
Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.
As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.
The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.
Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.
So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.
I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.
Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.
They are, aren’t they? Though Kenny needs lessons in how to make pompous job claims. He’s not threatening Pell’s lead at all.
Kenny — you specifically said, with stereotypes about both black and white people, that Italian Americans prefer to be called black than white. Whether they prefer to be called Italian than white is moot. The fact they check the “white” box and not “black” or “other” should really tell you all you need to know on that one. But hey, continue to question where the Italian Americans here got heir info. Stupidity must look good on you or you’d wise up right?
Or are you simply incapable of a coherent argument?
Wow, Kenny, you really hate men, don’t you, if you think a man’s only worth is in how many women he manages to shove his dick into. What a sad little man you are.
“weirdo”? thanks for the compliment!
kenny, kenny kenny… you’ve made up everything else, why not your occupation?
@ Bina.. that’s not horseshit in his pipe, it’s the drapes.
Obviously when we’re acting like decent human beings who see women as people, it means that we’re all living in mommy’s basement and not getting laid. TRU FAX!
Anyone else think that has some pretty rapey undertones?
*totally doesn’t have to stop people on the street to ask about scheduling a hotel* For, uh, pecunium related reasons, though the hotel email went to my pharm student (who damned well better have time!
Hey pecunium, care to say what those reasons are? That being your business and all.
kittehs – One step away from “lie back and think of England”? *shudder*
@Kitt..: Who said I pick up women while on the job?
And for your info, I’m a non-conformist like 99% of your Beta-male cowards commenting here who are afraid to approach women, and are afraid to lose the cushy job by not picking up women at work.
As a curator, my job strictly entails interacting with tourists mainly, since 90% of our visitors are tourists, so I interact with women on a daily basis at work…
That is an interesting leap of logic. Me thinking you’re a creep + countering your bizarre conspiracy argument = 50 year old virgin. I am learning all sorts of things around here tonight.
“You cannot call an Italian in NYC or in New Jersey a white person! You obviously don’t live and have never lived in NYC, or you’re blatantly lying.”
Errr, I don’t live in NYC, nope. Lots of people don’t. You know, the rest of the world.
“I was raised in and live in the Bronx, not far from Little Italy off East Tremont and Fordham road. So I have personal experience in dealing with American Italians.”
That’s great, Kenny. Thanks for othering us too, by the by. Little Italy isn’t considered the Official HQ of Italians EVERYWHERE.
“Italian Americans do NOT consider themselves white. If they’re filling out applications and so forth; they will have to select white as race if that is requires, but an Italian American will never tell you that he calls or classifies him or herself as a white person. They will tell you straight up; “I’m not white”!
Great, this again. Um, tell you what, get every Italian-American you know to sign an affidavit confirming your claim, and maybe I’ll believe you. And please, by all means, explain why any of this horseshit matters.
What’s with the obsession of teenaged women?
“Oooh, I’m totally a non-conformist! And I speak lots of languages! Ladies, suck it and WEEP!”
*yawn* Still not impressed.
oh kenny? “non-conformist”? you’re doing it wrong.
I’m curious as to why ignotussomnium is assumed to be a man. Lots of women find Kenny creepy, so…does hir kitty icon look particularly masculine somehow?
Xen – Teens are less experienced and are less likely to know that their SO is an asshole and/or a bad lay?
@Kenny: Right so…okay…you work at a “historical museum” and you speak multiple languages. Wonderful. But speaking multiple languages is not at all relevant to your knowledge of anthropology and archaeology. So we’ll just move on from there.
A “historical museum” is a very broad description. So again – large or small? What period in history (or is it just a general museum)? And does it take a more art history approach to it’s collection, or a more biological anthropology approach to it’s collection? These are not difficult questions…and these are not questions that would potentially reveal your place of employment.
Your reliance on anecdotes, your disdain for government information and your use of wide sweeping generalisations and stereotypes are, as I’ve said, quite the antithesis of current archaeological and anthropological thinking. Thus I’m asking questions about your supposed knowledge of anthropology and archaeology.
A curator who works mostly with visitors?
Riiight.
Y’know Kenny, if you’re on an info desk or doing ticket sales, you could just admit it. It’s not a shameful job.
Also, men who both obey the law and treat women as people are just “afraid to lose a cushy job”? You really do hate people, don’t you? Even on the lowest level, you’re showing how stupid you are, if you think harassment (because pushing for sex in the workplace is harassment) is worth losing a job over, in this economic climate. Wow, you really do have problems, don’t you? You’re so insecure you have to lie about your work, and your identity’s so wrapped up in getting sex that you can’t understand people who have actual lives.
You’re more pathetic every time you post here.
@Cass’: I think your mother would find me creepy also when this BBC penetrates her vagina don’t you think?
If he says he is not a clown then we just have to take his word for it and disregard his clownish behavior. Cuz.
Kenny, did you mean ‘you’ Italians or ‘your’ Italians because I don’t recall claiming to be Italian.
also:
“If they’re filling out applications and so forth; they will have to select white as race if that is requires, but an Italian American will never tell you that he calls or classifies him or herself as a white person. ”
So what you are saying is that in an official administrative setting they self-identify as white?
Lying? sir you assume my information comes only and exclusively from anecdotal personal experience.
As a fellow museum worker and anthropologist I recommend you read Nancy Foner’s study Transnationalism, Old and New: New York Immigrants. It’s a brief but excellent over view of trends in immigration, ethnic communities, identities and their transnational relationships. It can be found in several anthologies but was originally published under the title “What’s New About Transnationalism: New York immigrants Today and at the Turn of the Century” in Diaspora(winter 1997) Volume 6: 355-376.
and while we’re all acting like our personal experience are proof of absolute truth:, No I’m not from New York but I’ve been there several times and not once has a local ever noticed my ambiguous Canadian accent, they are all surprised to learn I am a foreign national.
@museum curator goof
Therefore, you point is correct: the average white girl in NYC is NOT a white-born American but a tourists from Europe, Canada or Australia.
In NYC (also in Chicago & LA), the women you meet with an Eastern European accents are very likely immigrants (some legal, some not). Canadians, Northern Europeans & Auzzies also work and/or immigrate to those cities as well.
@Shiraz
The ‘Italians would rather be called black” is from outer space, but I agree that Catholic “white ethnics” identify as Italian/Irish/Polish/Etc-Americans because American Protestants (“Prots”) have long history of anti-Papist bigotry and stereotypes. JFK did a lot to lessen the bad blood, but it’s legacy is still there.
This comment. Is this bad enough to call the Dark Lord over, or do we want to bat this one a bit more?
Kenny, I think the imaginary job description you’re looking for is “docent” not curator.
Total blockquote fail.