Has A Voice for Men just declared itself in favor of marital rape?
In the midst of a long and otherwise fairly tedious piece complaining about wives asking their husbands to do their fair share of the chores, Clint Carpentier offers some rather startling thoughts on marital rape laws, and how he thinks they help to make marriage a losing proposition for modern men.
In the good old days, he writes, “sex was a wifely duty she was obligated to provide as per the terms of marriage.” But “since the advent of ‘marital rape,’ sex [in marriage] is no longer a loving duty, so it has become whim and weapon … .”
Yep. Apparently “being raped by your husband” is really just a way to fulfill your “loving duty” as a wife.
So, Carpentier concludes, if wives demand that you do the chores around the house, and you can’t rape them at will, what’s the point of even having one in the first place? After all, he argues, in an age of washing machines and readymade meals chores are easy, and men can get “once per day of blasé sex” from “any street-hooker” or splurge on “mind-blowing sex once a week [from] a well trained call-girl.”
And so, he writes,
If women are demanding that their husbands do their “fair share” of the chores, then why do men need wives at all? In man’s attempt to make their wives lives easier, they have reduced the wifely duties to next to non-existent. Why, women? Why oh why would you drive those final coffin nails of obsolescence in? Aside from children, there’s no benefit left to having a wife.
Well, if the only “benefits” you can see in having a wife are someone who will do the cooking and cleaning and whom you can rape at will, then, no, there is no benefit to you in having a wife now that marital rape is illegal. And there is certianly no benefit to any woman in marrying or dating or possibly even being in the same room as you.
Where have all the good men gone? Well… where have all the good women gone?
That’s right: A man who considers marital rape to be a husband’s right honestly thinks that he’s one of the good ones.
AVFM’s Paul Elam loves to rail against the evils of traditionalism and chivalry. Interesting that marital rape is one element of traditionalism he apparently has no problem with.
You are talking about a narcissist.
Ooops …you said that later..Yes . Narcissist. I am familiar with them.
You can not rationalize with them either.Its like trying to rationalize with a 5 month old baby.
All infants are complete narcissist .But that is natural .Its not natural for a 40 year old man to be one.
I was under the impression that the-psychological-condition*-formerly-known-as-Narcissistic-Personality-Disorder was a form of psychopathy. Enjoyers of the condition certainly feel no empathy or love. No doubt my former fiance said shit like the OP to his friends during the period he was raping me and I’m pretty certain his photo is actually in the DSM-IV**.
*”Mental illness” implies that the person who has the condition is negatively affected by it. My observations indicate that, at least for narcissistic types, psychopathy is both a boon in career aspirations and a source of pleasure. I mean, sometimes the objects of one’s manipulations don’t do what you would like, but otherwise, no heart ache, no self doubt, no fear? Sounds like a good deal if it weren’t for the being-a-terrible-human-being bit.
**sarcasm
@Argenti
I agree with you 100% on all points! I guess I didn’t make myself clear. I grew up with a mental illness (OCD, GAD) and that’s the main reason I want to work in mental health, so I can help others who are worse off than me. That’s my calling in life and any MRA/PUA/whatever who calls this goal “selfish” be damned!
When I had more time for the Blue Pill reddit, I mostly corrected Red Pillers’ misconceptions about psychology, neuroscience, etc. One time I got to an argument with one of them about ASPD and NPD. Like I mentioned before, they called me a hypocrite because I was “mean” to those people, even though I’m accepting of mental illness. I then told him a story illustrating how the rest of the mental illnesses are different from those two, namely, the others don’t make the sufferers jerks or predators.
I also just finished up an EMT-B class and all of the psych calls I saw were of the “suicidal ideation” variety. So, Argenti unless you’re seriously considering hurting yourself, you needn’t worry about being committed. ^^
THIS.
Only thing I can think of that’s worthwhile about MRAs, in a negative way: they’re useful for comparing and contrasting with good people. More, they remind me (and I know I’m not the only one) how happy I am with my particular decent and lovely person, and sometimes that’ll prod me to do another happy snap reminder photo.
It’s the definition of “hurting yourself” that gets me [TW: self-injury] cuz clearly suicidal meets it, but wtf is the line between major bodily harm and basic first aid = outpatient? I mean, I’m always good with just basic first aid, so I’m probably just being paranoid, but the idea of a locked ward scares the shit out of me.
Nepenthe — personality disorders are still in DSM-V, just worded differently.
Janipurr — yes (NSFW)
@janipurr – oh yes, RealDolls are real. Google the name and you’ll get the maker’s website. Don’t click there, the front page is definitely NSFW.
Not only are RealDolls real, so too are the sad dudes who spend thousands on them. The dolls are spooky, but the dudes are CREEPY.
(And the worst part is, you can buy a “balloon knot” accessory to stick in the dolls’ buttholes. I guess it’s so you don’t have to be reminded that you’re not having real anal sex, you’re just buggering a silicone object.)
Oh, gross. I’d never heard that term before.
… balloon knots?
Do I want to know what that is?
TW for self harm.
in the state of Florida, you can be Baker Acted for “minor” self-harm (ie the kind that only requires very basic first aid).
you can also be Baker Acted for having suicidal thoughts, even slight thoughts that you explicitly state you will never act on but worry you.
From my time in New York, I’ve heard you can vividly describe how you want to kill yourself and they will not involuntarily commit you. It takes a lot for something like that to happen.
Well, if it’s not clear from the context, it’s an anus. Or in this case, an insert shaped like one.
It’s this thing here. NSFW.
The last paragraph is the absolute capper and confirmation that this is an MRAsshole’s perfect woman.
Ohhh. Okay, I understand now. I’ve never heard of such a thing. >_<
Enhk. I ran into the “sex is a requirement” thing so often that my husband actually had to spend a fair amount of time ACTIVELY CONVINCING me that he didn’t feel the same way.
Enh, dolls are spooky, but harmless, I figure. They weird me out, but I’m not sure why I should treat them any different than other sex toys.
In less creepy news, here’s Feminist Borgcritter number three: the cuttlefish!
AAAH I LOOKED UP THE BALLOON KNOT WHY DID I DO THAT
LBT — it’s definitely not worse than the “shemale” attachment (yes, that’s right, for $100-change more you can get an attachment that goes in her vagina and is functionally a dildo, and gods forbid they call this a strap on or something >.< )
RE: Argenti
Uuuuurrrrgh. Welp, never mind, that’s plenty of reason for me to hate it then. Yech.
Sex toy places, why must you be so SKEEZY?
I’m glad I came back because I got to see the borg cuttlefish. That is awesome.
Yay for cuttlefish! And here, have some brain bleach…
Borg cuttlefish is the cutest!
I love those Cats of OK Cupid. I’d date any of ’em. 🙂
Ditto … ::hurk::
It’s not just the whole RealDoll thing with that: it’s that such a stupid, elaborate name (turning knotted balloons inside out? Really? Who does that?) for a body part. The whole thing read like a creepy put-down.
Eww, did anyone look at the video further down the Jezebel comments? There’s a perfect example of what’s so skin-crawling about the whole RealDoll idea: an idealised, objectified, extremely young-looking replacement, not just for a body part, but an entire woman – and that clip of a man poking his finger around in its mouth.
It really makes me wonder about the sort of man who’d get off doing that. It’s not the same as using a fleshlight or your hands, not at all: it’s a passive, silent, imitation of a human being. There’s all shades of creepy in that, and I don’t believe for a minute all the men using them are the sad-lonely variety who form a type of relationship with the things.
That video made me think “potential serial killer”. Let’s just hope that if one day someone finds a bunch of bodies under his floorboards, they turn out to just be dolls.