Apparently some of the folks at A Voice for Men are afraid that, amidst all the eulogies for one of the greatest freedom fighters of our age, people may lose sight of the fact that Nelson Mandela was, in fact, a man. Not a man in the fallible human being sense, as he was and all of us are, but a man in the not a lady sense.
So AVFM Managing Editor Dean Esmay felt it necessary to remind the world of this fact:
The Horseless Hun decided to rub it in a bit:
Kukla, meanwhile, wasn’t all that impressed.
This, again, is a site that thinks of itself as the locus of the “Men’s Human Rights Movement.” It’s also a place where the death of a real human rights icon becomes just another excuse to talk shit about women.
I would love to see these goofballs find a single feminist who didn’t grieve Nelson Mandela.
The Horseless Hun may have used the word “annals,” but you know he pronounces it “anals.”
Mandela’s death has kicked off quite race to the bottom.
Boys, (and I call you that because you’re so obviously emotionally stunted)–your lack of self-respect is not the fault of feminism. It really isn’t.
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Meanwhile, today is the anniversary of the Ecole Polytechnique Massacre, and when I googled “Marc Lepine,” several MRM sites came up calling Lepine a hero. Along with the Wikipedia article, they took up the front page.
I feel sick.
Forgetting about assholes for a moment to say–Hamba kahle Madiba.
I wonder if any of them realize that Mandela was a left-wing feminist. That might, er, COLOR the tone of their eulogies somewhat differently. (Not to mention that he clashes with their racist drapes.)
According to Attila Vinczer, Mandela’s passing is a time to note that men are abused more than any other group.
This is something they actually believe.
“I’ve literally never heard *anyone* straight up call men inferior.”
Feminists think women are superior, ergo men are inferior. That one wasn’t even difficult to parse.
In short, the straw feminists in their heads say it.
In better things, shamelessly stolen off pecunium’s twitter, watch this!
Interesting how I’ve yet to see a feminist talk about how Rosa Parks was a “great female human being.”
@auggziliary, it’s not just you. It’s like they hear any criticism of male privilege, any discussion of systemic sexism, as “MEN BAD! WOMEN PERFECT!” They seem to be a bunch of
fragile snowflakespathological narcissists who can’t bear anything that could possibly be construed as personal criticism, even when it really isn’t.Centuries of belief in female inferiority you say? So what!? VALERIE SOLANIS! SHARON OSBOURNE! MISANDRY!
They have logic???
Yeah, try and fathom it. Men are oppressed and inferior! Yet women are trying to be them! Only in BizarroWorld would that even begin to make sense.
I strongly suspect that there are very few feminists who aren’t grieving for him. We all knew he was in his nineties and very ill but losing a leader like that is always an emotional shock. I cried when I heard. We had Aung San Suu Ki visiting Australia recently and I’ll feel much the same way when we lose her.
It really bothers me that they would use Mandela’s death as an excuse to make another of their shitty little jibes as women in general and feminists in particular. Especially since he was a hero and role model to so many of us and most of us are pretty sad right now. They don’t get to take credit for his actions just because he was a man and they are too. It’s just a variant on ” we killed the mammoth for you” and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Dear AVFM: You’re still a human rights FAIL. Try a little more Mandela, and a lot less YOU, eh?
An MRA claiming that anyone else has an “obsession” with any particular topic is just such massive projection, it’s laughable.
I’m always a little baffled when MRAs go “see, MEN can be heroes too” as if society never recognizes men who are heroic, or as if there are no movies or TV shows or books or plays or songs or epic poems or cereal boxes featuring male heroes.
According to that recent film survey making the rounds, 70% of film characters are male (vs being roughly 49% of the actual human population).
Men are definitely not being sufficiently recognized in popular culture. /snark
Wait, Nelson Mandela was male? And for all these years I thought she was on our side . . .
I’m always baffled by the “Mandela was so non-violent” rhetoric. Guess it shows how ignorant these asshats are.
I mean, he was at one time the head of the military wing of the ANC. I don’t think that’s something that counts against him necessarily. He did what needed to be done in order to pave the way for a free country. It’s just that, as a South African I’m just always amused by this.
But lol at the idiot MRAs. I wonder if they know that here in South Africa, equality between the sexes is legally enshrined in the country’s constitution that Nelson Mandela helped draft and signed into the highest law of the land? In practice on the ground it doesn’t always work out that way, but we have our version of ERA in our very constitution. I wonder what the MRAs would do if they lived in a place like that.
To be fair, there’s still a lot of that “men are less able to resist sex” “men are pigs” “men can’t multi-task” stuff that gets trotted out sometimes in like sit-coms, but it’s very rarely feminists writing or saying that kind of stuff.
The idea that men can’t change diapers or clean anything is a construct upheld by the patriarchy, specifically because it continues to prop up an ideology that assumes men are above doing those sorts of things.
Not that Mandela’s death is really the time to talk about the ways in which patriarchy hurts men too (and MRAs ignore that it’s patriarchy and instead blame feminism).
And not that it’s on par with Apartheid. Cause, haha, no.
Did they make a big thing about Kim Jong Il being a ‘great human man’ when he passed away?
“They don’t get to take credit for his actions just because he was a man and they are too.”
Of course they do! It’s the whole raison d’étre of “realist” bigotry – “I happen to share gender/skin color/nationalitysexual orientation/etc. with accomplished people, therefore I can claim those accomplishments for myself as an individual.”
You know, I just went over and looked at that discussion, and there’s now a comment there that says this: “There is a lot more work to do as males are abused more than any other visible group of people, regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.”
I’m just struck that this dude needed to put the word “visible” in that sentence. Huh.
Okay, maybe not the whole of it, but at least half. The other half is “Things are unequal because they are unequal, and that’s why they should be unequal”.
“Yeah, it’s true that men are over-represented in X, and that proves that men are better at X. That’s why we should fight any attempt to make X more inclusive.”
Well, that could be the most racist moment she’s
experiencedcaused.Dude, what year was that supposed to have happened, 1963?