So my post yesterday pointed out a rather extravagantly misogynistic post by the Men’s Rights Activist behind the blog Men Against Misandry. If you read it, you probably remember the money quote from his post, which he was so proud of he posted separately on Facebook:
If women sucked dick half as well as they suck at sports there would be no more divorces in the great US of A.
Today a new commenter here on Man Boobz, evidently an MRA irritated that I had quoted his comrade, posted a link to a discussion on the Men’s Rights subreddit that went up a couple of hours ago, and that specifically disavowed this quotation, declaring “This is NOT who we are, and this is NOT Okay.” The thread, when last I checked, had gotten nearly 800 upvotes from the Men’s Rights regulars.
I thought to myself, “wow, a rare moment of self-reflection, and self-policing, from MRAs!”
But then I started reading the comments.
Many of the Men’s Rights regulars seemed less bothered by the reference to blow jobs in itself than by the implication that better blow jobs would lower the divorce rate. Because, you see, most divorces are initiated by women for nefarious womanly reasons.
As JoshTheAspie put it:
Meanwhile, here’s one of the top comments in the thread, and the discussion it spawned. Notice the reaction to sad_woman, after she offers a criticism of uberpower’s “argument.” Also, notice uberpower’s own reaction.
If you’re puzzled by RZRtv’s cryptic comment, he is suggesting that sad_woman go back to the ShitRedditSays subreddit, a subreddit devoted to calling out various bigotries on Reddit, and which is regarded by most of Reddit with the same sort of wild-eyed horror and contempt with which Men’s Rightsers regard Man Boobz.
Knucker2, meanwhile, thought that the dick-sucking reference detracted from Men Against Misandry’s other truly valuable points:
As you may recall from my post yesterday, the main point of Men Against Misandry’s “argument” was that women suck at sports. Indeed, the title of his post was “Gender inequality in sports: male athletes paid more. (HINT: women’s sports suck)”
And then there was this enlightening exchange, featuring none other than A Voice for Men’s TyphonBlue and her signature brand of double-reverse whammy logic:
First of all, Young_Ocelot — who seems a bit naive even for a young ocelot — WHY WOULD YOU THINK ANYONE WOULD ASSUME ALL MEN THINK THIS WAY?! No one thinks that all men are raving misogynistic douchebags. However, there are quite a few people who think that a significant portion of Men’s Rights Activists are. For evidence, I would suggest reading, well, this post, or any of my other posts, or even the thread you were posting in.
And Typhon, poor deluded Typhon, do you really think that if someone wrote a HuffPost column arguing that if men were half as good at eating pussy as they were at sucking at sports the divorce rate would drop, they’d get applause? That doesn’t even make the slightest bit of sense.
And even if you adjust the “gender swap” a bit it doesn’t work. If men were half as good at eating pussy as they were at, I dunno, failing to ask for directions when they get lost while driving, there would be no divorce? Huh?
If Men’s Rights Activists were half as good at actually calling out their own misogyny as they are at loudly denying their misogyny while at the same time saying blatently misogynistic shit, well, I might have to shut down this blog.
EDITED TO ADD: BONUS BIGOTRY! The guy who posted the “this is not who we are” post to the Men’s Rights subreddit, our old nemesis Chris3992m, also recently posted this in the White Rights subreddit. When he was called out for this on AgainstMensRights, he explained that “I only post when there are real issues of white discrimination.”
He also believes that “[m]ost whites during the slave era were actually treated WORSE than the slaves. They had to work for the slaves, because they couldn’t be bought and sold and were considered useless by slaveowners.”
EDITED TO ADD AGAIN: Since I wrote this post, more Men’s Rights Redditors have posted comments more directly disavowing the misogyny of the original “blowjob” quote. If they are sincere about trying to remove the stain of misogyny from the Men’s Rights movement, I would suggest that they also try to convince the subreddit’s mods to remove the links to blatantly misogynistic and hateful websites like A Voice for Men from the subreddit’s sidebar, and that they do a better job of policing the misogyny that pervades the subreddit, many examples of which can be found by looking through the Man Boobz archives for Reddit here.
A fishy, for all Argenti’s hard work. 🙂
I vote for a fishy too!
Okay! How about a clown loach? Argenti loves them, right?
And what kind of kitty shall we have borgified? I was planning on a rex, but am open to persuasion!
I just popped back into the reddit thread to see if there was anything new…
In a discussion (basically) of how r/mr should never have posted that comment because of the Streisand Effect, HeraldOfRevolution gives us this gem:
“To be fair, this was posted on Manboobz, so even if MRAs weren’t made aware of it, anti-MRAs certainly were. It’s best to know what kind of dirt your opponents are going to throw at you.”
Do these people really lack all perspective?
If you don’t want us to laugh at you, stop being so hilariously awful, and start raising awareness about male suicide, maybe raise some funds for homeless men, perhaps discuss how toxic ideas of masculinity are harmful to young boys.
Just a quick note about “indentured servants” especially to vaiyt. “Indentured servants weren’t subjected to kidnapping, torture, erasure of identity, deliberate constant humiliation and being hunted down like animals, so there’s that for starters.”
I have to disagree with this statement. I’m Irish, and our history is filled with forced indentured servitude (i.e slavery). The Irish people were kidnapped, tortured, survived attempted genocide, forced famine and the horrors of the coffin ships. We Irish were also sold as slaves in the new world under the banner of indentured servitude.
I’m not trying to take away from the abomination that was slavery, but it wasn’t a great time in my country’s history either. You’re kinda selling the Irish experience short with that statement. Take a wee gander here http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves
A Rex would be just the go for a Borg kitty.
RE: auggziliary
How many animals are there going to be?
That depends on the generosity of the Boobzers. The little cyborg creatures are going for $20 a pop; right now, two have been lined up. I’ve decided, just for ease and speed, that whoever donates gets to say what kind of animal their donation goes to — be it ‘Persian cat’ to ‘ki-rin.’
Want an animal? You can throw money at me by clicking my little paypal button here!
RE: Kittehs
Okay, unless you’re outvoted, a cyborg Rex kitty it is!
Mind you, the so-sciency dude doesn’t know the difference between theory and hypothesis. That alone shows how sciency he really is.
The other big problem, of course, is that you can’t just make an hypothesis ex nihilo, you need to grab some data which the hypothesis is meant to explain. Cold, hard, measured data, not anecdotes or hearsay.
The other OTHER big problem is that making up a story to explain the data (which doesn’t exist in this case) is not the end of the story. The next step is to figure out how to disprove the hypothesis and put it to the test. For some reason, so-sciency dudes never get around to this part.
This is literally cargo cult science, reproducing the appearance of the scientific method with no knowledge of how it really works.
Just made a donation, Rogan.
I wanna Borg Rex kitty and a Borg donkey. 🙂
We need some kind of borg marsupial too. I’ll donate when I get home.
Borg Drop-Bear, the ultimate killing machine.
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/139342/
Okay then, we’ve got a borg Rex kitty, a borg donkey, and a borg clown loach! Plus a marsupial of some kind when I hear in from cloudiah. What shall it be, Boobzers? A kangaroo? A koala? A tasmanian wolf?
Kangaroo rat?
A numbat, maybe? (Look at that tongue!)
https://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&hs=bCm&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&biw=1093&bih=429&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=numbat&oq=numbat&gs_l=img.3..0l10.22440.23609.0.23817.6.6.0.0.0.0.270.1062.0j1j4.5.0….0…1c.1.32.img..2.4.841.IUwCi4dz8ng
Oop, might want to try that again, Kittehs!
Alice, a kangaroo rat would have to have TINY little techy bits. (Spring-powered legs!)
Click on the linky part, Rogan, it worked here. It’s the Google image search result page.
I agree.
They spend to much time begrudging that 19 yo’s won’t marry them and how often they get(don’t) their dick sucked to be taken seriously .
Are we sticking to extant animals or are extinct ones getting in, too? Tasmanian wolves (thylacines) are almost certainly extinct.
Dawww, that’s ADORABLE, Kittehs! I didn’t know such a thing existed.
RE: lana
One of my favorite webcomics has the following conversation:
“Stop making me an example.”
“Stop BEING an example.”
In fact, that whole strip seems relevant to the MRM, especially since I think we were talking about Nice Guys not that long ago.
That strip’s perfect! 😀
Numbats are the most gorgeous little critters. Endangered, of course, like pretty much every animal on this continent.
*native animal
Now I want a numbat.
Cloudiah just said marsupial; she never specified a non-extinct one!
(Besides, I like to pretend a few thylacines got away and are running around, hiding.)
RE: auggziliary
AAAH WHY DID I READ THE FUCKING COMMENTS FUCK ARGH