Oh, Reddit! Why must you be so Reddity? As a reminder of how deeply shitty Reddit can be even outside the confines of the Men’s Rights and Red Pill and related subreddits, consider the following comment from AskReddit, in which a RedPiller responded to another comment trying to summarize the “Red Pill Philosophy” for those unfamiliar with it.
Cyralea, a dedicated Red-Pill popper himself, took issue with the notion that Red Pillers are angry. (Gosh, why would anyone think that?) “Some are, certainly,” he wrote. “Particularly former betas who are recovering and are just discovering the nature of the world.”
But, he added,
The philosophy follows that one shouldn’t be any more angry at a women for her behaviours than one gets mad at a dog for chewing things up. We encourage self-improvement and self-respect in light of this newfound information. Some men use the knowledge to pursue sex, but others use it within their relationships/marriages. Alpha behaviours lead to healthier, stronger relationships. The women we date end up more satisfied in the long run, so both parties benefit.
I think it’s easy to get distracted by the angry people in /r/theredpill. There has been a recent influx of subscibers, so there’s been a little more angst than usual. The philosophy absolutely doesn’t hinge on anger though, though the language used may suggest such.
Emphasis added. As of this moment, this comment has a net 7 upvotes, 11 upvotes and 4 downvotes. That’s right: 11 Redditors saw this comment suggesting that women are like dogs who chew up sneakers and thought, “I’d better reward this bit of timeless wisdom! UPVOTE!”
In a followup comment, Cyralea tried to explain why the word “bitch” pops up so frequently on the Red Pill subreddit. Amongst Red Pillers, he noted, “bitches” is
literally interchangeable with “women”. It does not have the negative connotation when used there, again the same way 4Chan uses “fag”. I can understand how this seems aggressive.
Oh, “bitches” is like “fags.” Well then, no problem, use the word all you want, my dear fellow!
The mods removed this followup comment (though it’s still visible in his comment history). Apparently, in AskReddit, explicitly comparing women to female dogs is fine, and will even win you some upvotes, just so long as you don’t actually use a word meaning the same thing.
Thanks to a reader for pointing me to this very Redditty discussion.
Too true!
Well, of course there’s “want for nothing” as we mere human servants define it, but you know the Furrinati – they can always think of something else they want, or something that’s not quite up to scratch about the service.
Yes! Pun intentional! BWAHahahahaha!
*ahem*
I have two Bengals and my Moggie (domestic long haired gray).
Yes man . Understand.
Yay! 😀
Your Bengal boy is adorable! I wanna scritch his stripey lil head.
Hugs for all the kitties who’ve crossed to the other side. They’re in our hearts forever.
Awwww ..Im sorry . (((hugs))). Yes they are like kids.Anytime my husband and I (or me LOL) thought DIVORCE!! …its like what about the kids ..what about the animals?
Its hard . Did you get the them ?
And yes Bengal’s are VERY high need for attention .They are extremely social.
One of ours is a “runt” and he’s a little more introverted .But Kato ? I call him a dog cat.
Weird, ’cause most “Alpha” behaviors seem to lead to abusive relationships (though, given what I’ve seen from these people before, that’s still somehow ideal rather than dysfunctional). I also have a hard time believing the second part of that statement too – since every time a MRA/PUA/common misogynistic asshole make this claim, it usually was pulled straight from their ass. Then again, just about every anecdote of theirs sound made-up. Funny how the human mind can trick itself into believing total bullshit…
That…,makes absolutely no sense. Calling women “female dogs” isn’t dehumanizing? “Fag” isn’t homophobic? How do you expect any woman or gay individual to not take that as hostile language? Seriously, what fucking planet does this guy live on?
WORDS AND PHRASES MEAN SOMETHING, YOU DUMBASS!
‘why the fascination with ” red pills” anyway? yeah sure in the matrix Neo takes a pill to “free his mind”, but, well i’ll let this
http://www.collegehumor.com/article/6939394/if-the-matrix-was-realistic
say what I want to say.’
🙂
Ah, so it’s a self help movement!?
Citation needed.
‘‘Alpha behaviours lead to healthier, stronger relationships. The women we date end up more satisfied in the long run, so both parties benefit.’
I would like to hear “the women they date” side of that story.’
My thoughts exactly, though perhaps women who like these kinds of men don’t believe they should express their opinions? On the women’s red pill subreddit I read this view from one respectable god fearing lady:
‘For instance, women posting on “The Red Pill” sub and the comment section of websites like “Return of Kings” really annoy me. It’s one thing to read the content, to enjoy it and learn from it. It’s quite another to enter into a man’s “space” and give input that wasn’t requested in the first place. (Obviously this doesn’t apply to things like AMA’s or threads where Redpill guys ask for a woman’s perspective. )
Usually, the women I’m talking about think that their opinion is VERY special and that the menfolk are really gonna appreciate whatever canned anti-feminist response they are about to post. I rarely (if ever) see women post anything of use or intelligence in the “guy’s spaces.” To me, it’s the same thing as inviting myself to my husband’s poker night. It’s just rude. Guys deserve their own space where they can just be guys. They don’t need desperate RP cheerleaders telling them how great their ideas are and how stupid all those OTHER women in SRS are. I feel like there is way too much bleed over from RPW into Red Pill men “areas”. There are still a lot of women who think that they need to constantly inject themselves into men’s activities. I asked my husband about this, and he’s seen it too. So I know i’m not imagining it.’
I like the way she consulted her husband before deciding her observations were valid.
Hey, I think we finally found a female friend for Sunshine Mary!
@Snork Maiden
Isn’t that just an attempt at copying minority rights language with the roles reversed?
@saintnick86:
Ah, but you see, if I say something is not offensive, then it is not offensive, you ****** *** ******* **** ****** ********* mountainous ***** *****************************************
See? Not offensive! Because I said it wasn’t. And if you get all worked up about it, it just means you have thin skin and can’t take a joke. Not that your outrage is justified by systems of oppression and misuse of terms intended to besmirch and harm your name. No no.
Words only mean what I want them to mean…
Imagine the screeches of outrage that would ensue if any feminist blog/subreddit started referring to men as “dicks” or “assholes” in the same way these dudes use “bitch” to mean “woman”. Which of course would never happen, and if any online feminist community tried it they’d have other feminists telling them to knock it off.
Remind me again which group is the hateful one?
His “explanation” of why it’s okay that they call all women bitches is marvellous. Not only does it start with the absolute worst justification I’ve ever seen, but manages to follow it up with a comparison to overtly homophobic 4chan that is even worse. It’s like he was trying to outdo himself.
It’s one thing to try to pull the appeal to authority thing, but when the moral authority you’re invoking is 4chan? They themselves would laugh their asses off at dudebro trying to frame them that way.
@fibinachi
its like these guys operate on some kind of Orwellian “big brother” logic, where if they say two plus two is five, that makes it so.
“I think it’s raining outside. Should we take an umbrella?”
“Hmm, I’m not sure. Let me call my husband and check.”
speaking of 1984, I can easily imagine these dudes participating in some kind of “daily hate” session, where they watch a screen with flashing images of women while screaming and shouting death threats.
Kittehserf: I’m pretty sure the singular form of Furrinati is “Furrinatus”, which, of course, is Latin for “Why aren’t you scritching my ears yet?”
I got nothing to say about this latest self-defeating example of self-deflating MRM philosophy.
Honey ! Hey honey would you come hear for a minute ????? I just read something on the internet and had a thought about it but I need you verify I’m not hallucinating.
“here” not ‘hear. LOL!!
“Just a moment, I need to go ask my husband what I think about that.”
O.K my husband said I should wait for your opinion.
My husband says that I can’t tell you what he says my opinion is until your husband reminds you that I’m not allowed to have opinions of my own.
Also auggz is far kinder than I am – to me the Red Pill woman stuff reads as “I am a giant baby and too scared of the world to cope on my own, won’t someone please run my life for me?”.