Longtime readers of Man Boobz will have noticed that most of the pickup artists and “game” gurus I write about here are also vociferous slut-shamers.
This might seem a little odd and, well, counterproductive, in that you might expect that men who enjoy having no-strings-attached sex with a large number of women would in fact be kindly disposed towards women who enjoy having no-strings-attached sex with a large number of men.
Sadly, no. In fact, the “game” masters berate these women every chance they get. The best explanations I’ve come up with so far for this curious phenomenon are
- PUAs are hypocritical misogynist douchebags
- They attack “sluts” as a way of dealing with the massive numbers of rejections they get on a regular basis from women they want to fuck.
But now our old friend LaidNYC — the legendary “my seed is liquid gold” dude — has offered his own explanation for why he shames the very sluts he wants to sleep with. It involves an assortment of metaphors, so you know it has to be true.
LaidNYC first assures us that he has the mad skillz necessary to get laid even if all the women in the world suddenly became nuns:
I am an advocate for female virtue by day, but a pussy smashing player by night.
That isn’t a contradiction.
I’m confident in my ability to get laid no matter what the dominant level of female virtue (or lack thereof) in society.
Let’s just assume this is true, for the sake of argument. The question remains: why would a sex-loving dude shame women for doing what he himself loves to do? Well, apparently because the more sex a woman has, the lower quality she is?
If girls become less slutty I’m only helping myself… I’ll be fucking better quality.
I guess women only have a limited number of sex points, and the more partners they have sex with the more points they use up.
Consider a scenario where the harder a lock is to pick, the greater the treasure that lies within. It just so happens I have expert lock-picking skills and I don’t want any chump with a paperclip coming along and getting a share of my gold.
I don’t want it to be easier to get laid.
I want it to be harder.
So this way he gets all the sex gold for himself? You’d think someone whose sperm is already gold wouldn’t really need any more gold, but, you know, metaphors are hard.
Speaking of which, let’s meet the fellows who don’t slut shame, who don’t get any gold at all but are instead reduced to eating cheeseburgers. Off the floor. Which is covered in astroturf.
[S]ome guys aren’t able to compete on this grass, so they want to lay down astroturf. They want girls to be sluttier, not more virtuous. Their answer is not to improve themselves, it is to drag the girls down to their level.
These “non-judgmental” guys are dogs who can’t reach the table to eat so they are trying really hard to convince you to drop all the cheeseburgers on the floor.
So in summary, slut shaming is a kind of alchemy that transforms dirty cheeseburgers into sex gold.
I knew there was a simple explanation!
Me too. All this time I thought there was some deep meaning to the song that everybody got except me.
Wow, I feel better, I always heard ‘Brand New Key’ as just this perky little song about rollerskating that my kid sibling always really liked because… well, zie’s a perky kid who likes rollerskating. Now I need not fear zie was actually liking something quite smutty zie didn’t quite get (or me either)!
Also, I’ve always been kinda D: about how some of these guys seem to never let high school go. I mean, when I was in high school, my reassurance was, “This is just high school, it won’t be like this forever, people won’t care about this stupid shit forever.” We had given up all “One day I too shall be cool!” stuff by the time I was around. Just… weird. Why would anyone WANT to return to those days?
That song “Brand New Key” is so damn catchy – I keep listening to it. One of the few songs that puts me in a good mood. ^_^ It’s so cute.
I’m pretty sure that song isn’t about sex, though. I checked Wikipedia and according to that article this is what she said about that interpretation:
Ninja’d by Unimaginative! =P
LBT – I don’t get it either! It’d be understandable wanting to relive high school days if you loved ’em, but these guys seem stuck in the “everyone laughs at me” kind of memories, not so much unable to let go as refusing to. Yeah, godawful high school can leave a rotten mark on you (teens were the worst years of my life) but at some point you need to stand back and say “These people are not the ones who gave me hell then, and I’m not sixteen any more!” Not only that, but these blokes need a crash course in not taking out their teenage angst on women who know jack shit about their pasts and have nothing to do with them.
Yeah, Kittehs. My teens weren’t THE worst years of my life (I’m afraid my twenties seem to have co-opted that, what with the past few years *wince*) but I have absolutely no desire to relieve them at all, or relive those roles. I’m way happier outside them, thanks.
My early teens were fucking awful, and I didn’t even go to school. I was homeschooled by my dad – I probably don’t need to elaborate on why that was terrible. And it was also the time I was constantly pressured into adopting toxic masculinity. Ugh.
Ech. On second thought… the things that have been happening to me lately have been shitty, but I also feel like I’ve had more tools to deal with them. We haven’t had a single permanent system change in our twenties, while ALL of us but Gigi date back to our teens. (I nearly broke once, and we got a new system member, but it was reintegrated and died pretty quickly.)
So even though times have been, on an “objective” level, tougher… I’d rather have these hard times and my coping strategies than my more “comfortable” existence in my teens… which was also full of rape and confusion as we had gender and multi shit going on behind the curtain. So it’s not like my teens were THAT much better. In my twenties, at least, I’ve had my husband; in our teens, we were kinda screwed.
Well, every time Laid opens his mouth, he makes it harder for women to sleep with him. Mission accomplished.
I’ve got whiplash from the ridiculous astroturf-cheeseburger-lock-gold-table metaphor. Why not throw in a trombone while you’re at it? And some doorknobs? And some eye of newt? Let’s make analogy gumbo! Women are like giraffes and bricks and coffeepots! Because we can’t possibly look at women directly and understand them as they really are, so we have to resort to farfetched comparisons!
BTW, “dirty cheeseburgers” sounds like the lolcat version of dirty pillows.
Addressing the idea these PUA types are basically stuck in a pattern of trying to vindicate their tortured teenaged selves, ages ago I read a blog post by Roosh effectively doing just that:
http://www.rooshv.com/you-did-this-to-me
The gist of it being that everything he is, including his hatred of feminism and his descent into sex tourism, is the fault of girls (or just one girl?) who friend zoned him before he saw the light. Given he claims to have been doing game since his early twenties, I’m guessing this was a very early heartbreak he’s talking about.
How many of these guys are basically just indulging in revenge fantasies about ‘pump and dumping’ the homecoming queen?
I’ll concede that bad things that happen in early life can reverberate throughout our lives, but geez, he’s in his thirties now, isn’t it time he grew up and moved on?
If this was Harry Potter, they’d be an entire subculture of Snapes. Only without the wit or desire for redemption.
I was out of the closet my senior year of high school – and this was 1978/79 – and I seem to have had a more positive high school experience than these bozos. But then, I was taking responsibility for my own happiness, which is an idea that does not seem to have occurred to them. Also, despising the people you desire is a good recipe for misery no matter how you look at it.
Well, see, what you have to get is that these guys need to be able to blame their teen years for the horrible human beings they’ve become. Setting aside that resentment would require them to step up and change themselves for the better–a step they’re not willing to make. By continuing to dehumanize women by acting like there’s just some sort of ‘cheat code’ that they were never given, they can avoid that effort and continue to be horrible.
I’m somewhat reminded of C.S.Lewis’ The Great Divorce, which described a metaphorical bus ride from Hell/Purgatory to Heaven. In Hell, you can create anything you want, but it’s always sub-par; an apple will be pulpy and bruised, a building leaky and drafty (and it rains constantly), clothing is ill-fitting and tends to fall apart. As the riders get to Heaven, they find themselves expanded, but almost ghostly–translucent forms who find it painful to walk on the grass that cuts into their feet, unable to muster enough solidity to lift even a feather. However, everything that exists is of high quality, beautiful and shining. Some stay, hoping to adapt (they’ve been met by those who have gone before, and are now solid and real, so they know it’s a thing that can happen). Others, unwilling to cut themselves off from their old sins, abandon the place, getting back on the return bus to Hell, which is revealed to be a small crack in the ground (this is why, in Heaven, the newly arrived are so diffused).
Stripped of the religious morals, it still works very nicely as a way of talking about healthy versus unhealthy mindsets. Moving from one to the other is often painful and difficult, even though you ultimately end up better off. Meanwhile, those who opt to stay behind, or return to their old ways, will justify it to themselves in order to not confront their own error–no matter how faulty their life is because of it.
@Snork Maiden
My guess is she’d be kept under strict watch and probably be forced to marry one of this sleazy friends.
Snork Maiden,
UGH…I could barely get through that “you made me this way ” shit .The thing is if he is so much better off(learning the game) why is he obviously still so tortured ? He acts like he’s punishing ‘her’ for how she ” made him.”But he is the one who’s obviously completely broken unable to give or receive genuine love .
How is that even revenge?
He gave her the power to break him for the rest of his life to live in misery ?
Does he even realize how pitiful and weak he sounds? How void of any kind of joy in life he sounds ? Knee deep in rot and emptiness ? Like that is getting her back ?
I’m getting revenge on YOU !! You ruined my life for the rest of my life HA HA HA!!!!!
Huh. Clearly projecting. I was teased and bullied as a 15 year old teenager, and I read The Game as a 16 year old teenager.
You know what my response was? I realized that the people who bullied me were not good people and not worth my time or effort or energy. I didn’t declare war on half the human race.
Not trying to play the “Fibi is perfect” card here, or anything, but it’s… just such a disproportionate response. And they can’t even use the “Pua stuff teaches me this!” as an excuse. I was into PUA stuff when I was 15-16. I read The Game and Rules of the Game, and unpacking crates of books after a reent move, I realized I actually own a collection of interviews with prominent (9 years ago?) ish PUA-gurus.
Yeah, I’m not sure whether to laugh or punch myself in the face either.
Point being: The take-away I got from all that, as a teen with social issues who got into PuAish things briefly, was not “Be a total jackass to everyone because the world sucks and having hypocritical double standards is the way forward!”.
It’s just… what’s the point? Not only are they wrong, they’re wrong and angry about it. Terrible way to go about a life.
O.K education time ..I don’t know what the acronym PUA stands for .I’m sure I’ve experienced the definition just lost with the “PUA” .
Pick-up artist. As in, to “pick up” women as sexual partners.
Fibinachi — laugh, we were all stupid teenagers once, you got over it and can thus laugh at your teenage self.
Lana — Pick-Up
AssholeArtistYeah, but if I start, I’ll never be able to stop
Got it!
A PUA is a UYFS.(Using you for sex)
Auggziliary,
If women could just get it through their thick heads a guy is only nice to them and their friend because he wants sex in return from her the problem would be solved.
Women need to understand guys do not want to be “friends’ with women they want sex.
Or Alan Rickman to play them! 😉