Longtime readers of Man Boobz will have noticed that most of the pickup artists and “game” gurus I write about here are also vociferous slut-shamers.
This might seem a little odd and, well, counterproductive, in that you might expect that men who enjoy having no-strings-attached sex with a large number of women would in fact be kindly disposed towards women who enjoy having no-strings-attached sex with a large number of men.
Sadly, no. In fact, the “game” masters berate these women every chance they get. The best explanations I’ve come up with so far for this curious phenomenon are
- PUAs are hypocritical misogynist douchebags
- They attack “sluts” as a way of dealing with the massive numbers of rejections they get on a regular basis from women they want to fuck.
But now our old friend LaidNYC — the legendary “my seed is liquid gold” dude — has offered his own explanation for why he shames the very sluts he wants to sleep with. It involves an assortment of metaphors, so you know it has to be true.
LaidNYC first assures us that he has the mad skillz necessary to get laid even if all the women in the world suddenly became nuns:
I am an advocate for female virtue by day, but a pussy smashing player by night.
That isn’t a contradiction.
I’m confident in my ability to get laid no matter what the dominant level of female virtue (or lack thereof) in society.
Let’s just assume this is true, for the sake of argument. The question remains: why would a sex-loving dude shame women for doing what he himself loves to do? Well, apparently because the more sex a woman has, the lower quality she is?
If girls become less slutty I’m only helping myself… I’ll be fucking better quality.
I guess women only have a limited number of sex points, and the more partners they have sex with the more points they use up.
Consider a scenario where the harder a lock is to pick, the greater the treasure that lies within. It just so happens I have expert lock-picking skills and I don’t want any chump with a paperclip coming along and getting a share of my gold.
I don’t want it to be easier to get laid.
I want it to be harder.
So this way he gets all the sex gold for himself? You’d think someone whose sperm is already gold wouldn’t really need any more gold, but, you know, metaphors are hard.
Speaking of which, let’s meet the fellows who don’t slut shame, who don’t get any gold at all but are instead reduced to eating cheeseburgers. Off the floor. Which is covered in astroturf.
[S]ome guys aren’t able to compete on this grass, so they want to lay down astroturf. They want girls to be sluttier, not more virtuous. Their answer is not to improve themselves, it is to drag the girls down to their level.
These “non-judgmental” guys are dogs who can’t reach the table to eat so they are trying really hard to convince you to drop all the cheeseburgers on the floor.
So in summary, slut shaming is a kind of alchemy that transforms dirty cheeseburgers into sex gold.
I knew there was a simple explanation!
But as far as PUAs/MRAs and rape… I think I can sorta understand why they get so upset at the thought of an accusation. I don’t think most of them fantasize about rape. I think that they are such socially inept people with such unrealistic beliefs regarding human interaction that all their fantasies about a perfect sexual encounter just happen to add up to rape.
Here is what they believe to be normal, natural and beautiful: An unyeilding, rough handed, strong “alpha”, with a rock solid confidence in his own righteousness and the sanctity of his own needs meets a delicate flower of a young virgin maiden who is so vulnerable and demure that she can’t meet his eye even briefly without blushing like a scarlet sunset. He escalates. She succumbs. He takes what his fiery physical form requires. She submits to his needs. At the end, both are greatly fulfilled. This is what feminism took away from them.
Here is how it is in the real world: Delicate, sensitive people tend to gravitate towards partners who are gentle and sensitive to the needs of others.
Cocky people who enjoy verbal sparring, coming up with witty insults, making sarcastic statements and noting irony are usually best appreciated by people who would enjoy sparring with them. So the cocky-funny, socially dominant, life of the party guy that they all aspire to be (and actually fail to become) is usually paired of with the smart mouthed sarcastic girl they all so fear and loathe.
But if someone who feels like he HAS TO act like a super assertive, domineering asshole to be a real man specifically targets someone who is very shy and non-confrontational, that’s recipe for trouble right there. Especially if the man is convinced that a woman growing more and more uncomfortable and withdrawing more and more into herself as she protests weakly is just her displaying adorable feminine behavior and that’s his cue to be manly and escalate. That’s a clear path to date rape.
All of this is common sense to someone who interacts with people. As a teacher, I am a lot more gentle very shy kids and a lot more assertive with the loudmouthed class clowns. Human beings need to be treated as individuals with unique traits, personalities and needs of their own for anything good to come of it. But these guys don’t see women as human beings. In faxt, they don’t see men as human beings either. EVeryone must fit a very specific, narrow mold and play a restrictive part, or these guys lose grip on their understanding of the world which makes them rage.
Maybe laidinnyc is one of those people who have played so much Skyrim that they confuse it with real life. Laidinnyc has got even more confused and in his head he’s mixed up the lockpicking skill with the speechcraft skill.
Now I want to wander around new York in a Whiterun guards uniform and say to random men ( hoping one of them is laidinnyc) “go fiddling with any locks around here, and were going to have big trouble”
That was a beautiful and dead-on discription right there, Kilts&Pipes.
… Meanwhile I can’t spell “description” right.
OMG romance novels.
Oops.
Romance novels fit this image pretty well as well. At least many of them do.
Romance novels also make me think of how I read posts online that talk about how all women in the bedroom want to be dominated.
I’ve read so many back covers of romance novels that have “feisty” (I hate the word feisty. I never hear men called feisty)or cold (cause shes been hurt in the past or something). However, both women melt in the bedroom. Totally dominated and wanton….and blah blah blah.
Meanwhile, the men are often described as sinful, charming or wicked
Oh, romance novels (and shoujo manga) and their weird obsession with relationships that would be incredibly unhealthy in real life. :/
Further to the description of women as being “feisty”, I’m sure the original meaning was “farty”. Which is a fairly accurate description for me right now. (TMI?)
If a woman has sex because she enjoys it, it’s at least partially about her. If she reserves sex as a reward for the man who know how to get it, it’s about him.
slightly unrelated but there is a tumblr post http://feintone.tumblr.com/post/66717581460/noidentityleft-mr-egbutt-savanna
about how women should respond to unwanted male attention with generic RPG NPC dialogue, like for example
” hey baby, let me get your number”.
” I hear the fighters guild is recruiting!”
Ami started that! 🙂
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans on here who choose to celebrate it. 🙂
I am laughing like so hard right now, that is so perfect.
Although last I head LaidinNYC might actually be Matt Forney, so he might not even live in NYC.
So, guess what was happening here at 4 am? I got up to nuke my coffee when I heard my mother go downstairs (also, to figure out wtf she was doing up and about at 4 am) — she was putting the bird in the oven. Ok, normal enough. Then it got interesting.
My father will apparently be eating at McDonald’s today as uh, idk, but it involved him whining about her telling him to stop telling everyone what to do. Like, he’s yelling at me to go to bed, she snaps at him to stop telling everyone what to do, and he starts whining “stop telling everyone what to do” in a voice that’d make a toddler temper tantrum seem mature, and then going off about how we’ll be lucky if he’s here for dinner (um, no?) because something something no one cares happy fucking thanksgiving.
All I know at this point is that if anyone touches my cranberry sauce they’re going to wear gravy.
This… actually makes a very perverse sort of sense, just not the way he’s presenting.
As long as he believes sex with a woman is a rare and impossible feat of superhuman ability, then he’s able to brag about every encounter, no matter how poor the experience.
If hook-ups are commonplace, he’s no longer special. He’d have to face the fact that most people don’t care about how many encounters he’s had, and would probably put him to shame.
Stupid analogy: If everyone has a pony, it’s hard to pretend that yours is a rare unicorn.
Oh jeez Argenti, I’m sorry to hear that. It sucks when dysfunction turns Thanksgiving and Christmas into “Family Obligation Day”.
Just gonna announce yay for 15 hours of holiday pay.
Thats my budget this year for christmas presents. God I’m poor.
Anyway, I agree with you leftwingfox!
Agrenti: I hope no one touches your cranberry sauce then. And if they do I hope they aren’t wearing white. Getting the stains out would be a pain.
Happy thanksgiving all! And happy normal day for those who don’t celebrate.
Oh, LaidNYC. That little turd is so full of shit. What a pity.
Bingo. These guys can’t “read” women for shit, so they insist on forcing their own creepy romance-novel scenarios on the situation. “Ew, gross, get away from me” is NOT “please, sir, may I have some more”. An assertive woman offends them because she’s obviously not following script. And it bothers them even more when such women are successful in love and career, to boot. It makes them feel even more superfluous than they already are. Hence these whiny rants (and overblown fantasies of what Great Lovers they would all be, if only women played it right.)
@Malitia
You ever heard of a shojo manga called Hot Gimmick? That has to be one of the most disgusting ones just for glorifying/making light of abusive relationships.
@yaoi huntress earth
No. I didn’t. Truth to be told, I rarely read shoujo manga (or romance novels) since I finished Paradise Kiss 6 or so years ago… and at least that had a reasonable ending (but it triggered me really really badly).
Sex gold? What is that? Is that a golden dildo?
Also this is totally what happens:
“Damn it! I dropped my yummy hamburger on the floor! You stupid slut!”
*burger turns into SEXGOLD!*
“OOH YEAH BABAAYYYY! GOLD!”
*tries to pick up gold*
(after touching one of the pieces on the floor) “MUST. FUCK. NOW.”
*goes to find a sex partner*
I don’t have time to read the post, let alone the comments, but I just wanted to get on and wish a happy thanksgiving to anyone who’s celebrating that, and a happy thursday to anyone who isn’t celebrating thanksgiving. May all your LEGOs skitter from under your bare feet, and all your eyes stay firmly in your sockets rather than rolling out of your head and gathering dust under the couch.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans here.
Happy Thanksgiving USians!
I’m totally doing the NPC thing for the next creep I run into. I play Pokemon. Much entertainment will be had.