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A creepy expat in Southeast Asia explains why money = tits and how this makes exploiting poor women for sex ok

The sexiest man alive?
The sexiest man alive?

Over on Random Xpat Rantings the terrible excuse for a human being who calls himself Xplat sets forth an intriguing proposition: for men in search of sexy times, having money is the equivalent of a woman having tits.

In other words, it’s not absolutely necessary for a man to have big bucks to garner the attention of the opposite sex, just as it’s not absolutely necessary for a woman to have something in the tit department in order to garner the attention of men, but it helps. A lot.

Oh, by the way, the title of the post in which he sets forth this theory is “ALL women are inherently gold diggers down to their pussy juice.”

Let’s let him explain, in his own icky way:

Women know their value. They know they can trade their value for their benefit. In [South-East Asia] this is not a dirty little secret. It’s not even an open secret. It’s just a fact of life. Money is part of the equation, blatantly and openly. …

Money-and-power-and-social-status is exactly equal to breasts. It can be a cause of sexual attraction in and of itself, and can maintain a relationship when there is nothing else being offered.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure when someone is literally interested in nothing about you except your money, you’re not actually in a “relationship” with that person.

Women aren’t men with vaginas. Their sexual attraction triggers are different. It’s not just that they fuck for food. Not JUST a matter of pragmatic sales of a service. Actual attraction is ALSO involved.

I like big bucks and I cannot lie?

Now, of course Xsplat here is challenging the common PUA gospel that men shouldn’t rely on money to win over their “targets” but rather on being cool and caddish and, you know, going to places where there’s a good chance a lot of the women will be pretty drunk.

Manospherians hampsterbate about this with a zillion “ya buts”. Ya, but you don’t NEED money. Yup, and girls don’t NEED tits.

Having tits is better and more attractive anyway, and girls with tits can get more and better quality men.

Having money is better in exactly the same way. You don’t see many flat chested Penthouse centerfolds, nor are there many broke romance novel heros.

Well, I don’t know much about romance novels, but from what I hear there’s a shitload of slash fiction about two dudes named Sam and Dean who basically live out of their car.

It’s not the case that SOME girls are gold diggers.

It’s just a matter of all the gold diggers mining for gold in different ways.

And of course all of this turns out to be a justification for Xplat’s own use of his relative wealth, as a western expat living in Southeast Asia, to exploit impoverished women for sex.

For me sex is about ecstatic intimacy. Money helps to get more intimacy with a greater percentage of girls, and higher quality girls. I choose to allow egoic esteem to include finances. Money is not cheating. Money helps to skin the cat. Money is not separate from my fantastic ethereal self. Money is part of what I am; part and parcel of what I am to a woman.

That’s got to be one of the creepiest and most delusional excuses for sexual exploitation I think I’ve ever run across in the three years of doing this blog.

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kittehserf
10 years ago

Still catching up, but how does one know if one’s doxxed, unless they tell you about it or direct you to whatever site they’ve done it on?

*rolls eyes* I’m submissive, queer, and trans. And my favorite treat is dark, dark chocolate. None of these facts have ANYTHING that make me capable of being a feminist leader. Ain’t nobody made you Queen of Madames, dillweed.

I dunno … I mean, dark chocolate … that there says leadership material to me.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Holy shit, that is a person I hope gets hit by a blast of self-awareness, and soon.

All the LEGOs.

That could be the ultimate weapon – never mind The Moment, what about The Lego of Self-Awareness?

Just read another post where he wants to blow up the world because it’s failed to provide him with enough porn that’s specifically tailored to his preferences. LOL.

Ha! HA! What would he know about not specific enough porn, I say? Amateur! (I made my own in years past too.)

I remember being perplexed years ago why, if he had such low opinions of the BDSM subculture, he continued BEING THERE. I have yet to meet a subculture so desperately dear to my identity that I can’t stand to leave.

A meatspace troll, or the last word in masochism? Ugh.

One day last year, I was invited to a semi-private dinner party following a sexuality conference. There, an older man, well-known in the sexuality communities for the sex toy company milking machine company he owns, works for, approached me, drink in hand. He was poorly shaven, his mismatched clothing adding to his unkempt appearance. Something in his eyes betrayed the existence of a continual internal monologue that may have never been shared with another person.

He’s met NWO!

Seranvali – holy shit, that’s … I don’t even have the words. More hugs if you want them (with free coating of cat furs for extra quality).

alternatesteve90
10 years ago

Hi there Seranvali, and I’m sorry you had to deal with such assholes. May they all, as it’s said on here, step on all the Legos.

And some hugs from me if you want them. =)

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

Argenti,

I don’t know what is is about pets and shoes. The smell, maybe?

All I know is that when I first got my cats–and less commonly, later on–Pan used to get into full-on wrestling matches with my shoes. Kicking back legs and all.

When I first got him, he was about the size of my shoes as well, so I used to joke that he was losing.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Mads is wildly in love with my shoes, especially rubber-soled ones. Rubs herself all over them, licks them … strange child. She’s the same with my walking stick’s rubber stopper.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

I’d be amazed if they were even ABLE to dox me, given the fact that

1. The email address attached to this account is not linked to my real name, nor is it linked to any other real life information (save my birthday).
2. I actually work hard to be ambiguous about what I’m doing—I don’t actually state EXACTLY what degree I’m getting, for example, and I don’t actually mention what school I attend. I guess if you work hard and pay attention to the details you might get it, but…
3. No photographs of me. Or at least no photographs in which I’m the lone subject which are accessible via a Google search of my legal name.

Of course, if they did actually figure out my name, I’m totally fucked, but until then…

Also, the douchebag telling Cliff to kill himself? Disgusting asshole. Ew. Step on Legos and may you finally realize how shitty of a person you are.

And privilege much? What makes you think that being a sub and Jewish and whatever is enough to be a “feminist leader”? What the hell do you want, a fucking cookie? Get over yourself.

Seranvali – WTF? I’m so sorry that people were shitty and trolled you for cancer.

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
10 years ago

What is it with pets and shoes? My father was all cranky to find his slipper in the middle of the kitchen (he stores them by the door in there) with the kitty’s favorite toy placed atop it. I’m like “I think it’ say peace offering” (he Does. Not. Like. Her.)

Doubt it’s a peace offering- it’s more like ‘this slipper is now MINE’.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/07/c1/5b07c16083b7ad1d79fda20c26702cef.jpg

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

I think Kitteh asked this, but how would you know you were doxxed anyway? BTW, is doxxing in general illegal?

And holy shit, I am sorry, everyone who has been harrassed online. That sounds terrible.

I have nothing to say about the OP, really. He’s one of those people who sounds very, very sad, and is trying to rationalize his pathetic and creepy life.

Finally, here is the ultimate animals with shoes picture. A true classic:
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/Hey_Carl_Have_You_Seen_My_Blue.jpg

kittehserf
10 years ago

Tuxedo kitteh’s never getting those shoes back again …

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

You’re asking me for those shoes back? *ohshitfuckimfuckedimfuckedohshitoshitoshit*

Why yes, your shoes are right here. On my paws. What about them?

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

baileyrenee – Totes not a legal expert, so don’t take my word for it, but I think it depends on the method of gathering the information. Like, if it can be found by a Google search, that’s legal. But if you hacked someone’s account to get that information, I would think that the hacking itself is illegal.

Disclaimer – I am not, nor have I ever been, awarded a law degree. I have not, nor have I ever been, studying for a law degreee. Please consult an attorney for all legal advice. This post is not to be constructed as legal advice.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Also fuck you mobile devices, you suck in regards to the spelling department.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

Alice, that’s sort of what I thought too. Would finding out your IP address and doxxing that way be illegal? I think it is, but I’m no expert either. Either way, I don’t understand doxxing at all. It can definitely fuck up someone’s life, but how often does it really get out of control? I would imagine (and hope) that it usually only gets to the point of really terrible e-mails and stuff like that. I don’t understand why anyone would get so angry over arguing online that they want to either A – send a bunch of really anrgy e-mails, letters, or phone calls, which is really childish, or B – actually threaten with violence and maybe even act on it, or get someone else to.

I don’t get it. The vast majority of people getting doxxed just have a different opinion or are an asshole (or just seen as one), not actually dangerous people. I can’t imagine hating someone I’ve never met so much that I want to expose them like that, and there are a lot of fuckers online who I really, really hate. Doesn’t anyone consider the roomates or family of said person too?

Sorry for the weird block of thoughts on doxxing. I just… don’t get it. People who do it, or threaten to, must be really fucked up and terrible.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

*are assholes.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Honestly, I think it depends on how they get it.

Example: if you comment on my blog, I can see your IP addresses on my dashboard. From there I could, if I wanted to, Google the IP address and find out where the IP address comes from (theoretically). I got your IP address through legal means (you posted a comment on my blog, which means you gave me implicit permission to see your IP address, ’cause I need to moderate my comments), so if I publish the list, it would be wrong (and to me, utterly unethical), but not illegal.

I don’t presume to know if there’s a way to illegally get someone’s IP address, of course. There probably is though. If you got it through hacking, the hacking is illegal.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Also, on doxing: I think that people do it because they want to have control. If the asshole knows where you live, just the threat of harm might be enough to frighten you into silence or whatever. It’s essentially blackmail: I know who you are and where you live, so if you do [thing I don’t like], I might decide to drop in and give you a “much deserved” “present” (note the scare quotes).

That’s basically it. Control.

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
10 years ago

I would imagine (and hope) that it usually only gets to the point of really terrible e-mails and stuff like that.

Even that can be dangerous- depending where you send the threatening emails. IF you send them to an employer, someone could lose one’s job. If yiu send them to an abusive partner, parent, ex etc. one’s life could be threatened.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
10 years ago

That’s very true Neuroticbeagle. Ugh.

NonServiam
10 years ago

Expats can really be awful. I live in Turkey (but I’m from Ireland) and I have ended so many friendships with expat men here based on how they treat and talk about Turkish women. I had some douchebag tell me that Turkish girls loved him because he was American and treated them better than Turkish men. He routinely cheated on women, talked down to them and was always ranting about how “crazy” Turkish women are. I later found out he had a nasty obsession with hooking up with conservative women because they were likely to be virgins.

And I’m not even going to touch the treatment of Syrian refugees here by both local and expat men.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

it usually only gets to the point of really terrible e-mails and stuff like that

But I don’t think that we can understand how emotionally destroying it can be to wake up every morning to your email inbox overflowing with extrememly hate emails and to find hundreds more every time you check it. Witnessing the effect on public women it has happened to, it shouldn’t be taken lightly.

Having said that, I’ve not been doxxed and I suspect this MRA, as is their habit, is talking out of his ass.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

With the ex-pats, it’s entitlement heaped on entitlement, isn’t it? Being male, from a richer country, of a priviledged (former colonialist) race. Ugh, indeed!

seranvali
10 years ago

Thankyou Kittehserf, AlternateSteve90and Alice Sanguinaria for all the hugs, I really appreciate them!

This stuff is difficult for me to think about. I’m pretty sure they were MRAs because they kept going on about my SMV being reduced to 0 because of the surgical scars (and as it happened the scars are huge and never likely to go away). Besides, being 50+ my SMV is (according to them) 0 anyway. Fortunately Mr S disagrees on all points and was furious with them.

The Anons who helped me went a long way to do so. I think they’d started threatening to bring down their servers if it didn’t stop. Not sure if they went ahead with that but I’ve not been trolled in months now so perhaps they frightened them sufficiently to chase them off.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Yeah, I was pretty sure the doxxing stuff was a bluff — and don’t worry folks, if you’d been doxxed, you’d know. Harassment is kind of the point.

The best part is that the person making the doxxing claim seems to deleted his own accounts. Internet tough guy.

freemage
10 years ago

Seranvali and LBT, internet hugs to both of you for this shit.

That asshat bullying Cliff is a piece of work–every post seems to declare a blend of narcissism, entitlement and complete lack of empathy or humanity.

****

On the OP, how on earth did we get through the entire discussion without anyone mentioning “hampsterbating”? I mean, I know he’s trying to reference the ‘rationalization hamster’, but that extra ‘p’ makes it sound like he’s talking about some sort of Etsy-spawned piece of bathroom furniture–a clothing repository with fuzzy fake ears and beady black eyes attached, and then painted in a hamster-pattern, making it a ‘hampster’–and then, well, hampsterbating kind of goes from there, don’t it?

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