So our old friend Roosh Valizadeh seems to have fully embraced the Matt Forney school of misogynist internet celebrity, posting over-the-top offensive posts in a transparent attempt to gin up controversy and blog traffic. And it’s working: he’s brought an avalanche of well-deserved hate down upon himself. But don’t worry: he’s still got some supporters — not only on his own blog but in the Men’s Rights subreddit.
The post that’s been keeping the servers hosting Roosh’s Return of Kings blog busy lately is a guest post by Tuthmosis with the title “5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder.”
It’s pretty much as awful as you’d imagine. Reason 1: “Her obsession over her body will improve her overall looks.” Number 2: “She costs less money” because she’ll only order salads at dinner. Hilarious. It’s all so predictably “provocative” it’s not worth quoting in any more detail.
Roosh has responded to the controversy with an, er, “Publisher Response” that was clearly designed to further stir the shit. In it, he claimed that the original post
contains value for men who want to date thin women in America, a country that is currently facing a devastating obesity epidemic, which we recently highlighted with Fat Shaming Week.
He followed this by claiming that Return of Kings wasn’t promoting eating disorders, merely trying to help women struggling with eating disorders find happiness in love:
We are educating our masculine readers not to pass on eating disorder victims just because they have an illness, yet instead of receiving thanks, we’re receiving hate instead. If we all had cancer, and someone wrote an article titled “5 Reasons To Fornicate With A Man Who Has Cancer,” we would spread it far and wide to make fornicating with us a better proposition for women. We would not send death threats or calls for censorship like is happening to us now. I think a bit more graciousness is in order for our unorthodox method of outreach.
As a much less obnoxious internet celebrity once put it:
Despite setting out to offend as many people as possible, Roosh reacted with indignation when he discovered that someone on the Men’s Rights subreddit had dared to suggest that perhaps he had stepped over the line a bit.
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/403290871854280704
What’s doubly ironic about this tweet is that he actually has a lot of defenders in that thread — and that the thread itself has gotten twice as many downvotes as upvotes. Only a few found the Return of Kings post offensive; the others dismissed it as clickbait — or agreed with it.
One commenter, posting under the name of a famous turn-of-the-twentieth centuryantifeminist and opponent of women’s suffrage, apparently sees Roosh as some sort of heroic defender of anorexic women:
Meanwhile, the ironically named LogicalDebater beamed us this message from his home planet:
And our old friend Demonspawn, quoting from a commenter on Return of Kings, blamed the outrage on fat, ugly feminists jealous because men would rather date thin women.
![Demonspawn [-1] 1 point 21 hours ago (8|7) This comment on the followup article nailed it to the wall: The anger was only thinly veiled by the eating disorder arguments. Ultimately the original article was about accepting women albeit with the benefit that she's thin and won't cost as much, but I think that is the rub. The feminist hate speech directed in the comments and emails to this site was latent anger at a man's desire to date thin women. Since feminism encourages the destruction of female beauty and femininity most feminists have a hatred toward anything that encourages or accepts women for these traits. The hate directed at this site under the guise of "eating disorders" is just that, the article hit a rough nerve with feminists who hate beauty and acceptance when it is defined by men.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/demon.png?resize=525%2C242&ssl=1)
Men’s Rights Activists often complain about being lumped together with pickup artists; here, many of them have chosen to associate themselves with Roosh at his worst.
The greatest human rights movement of the 21st century, folks!
EDIT: Belated thanks to Snork Maiden for pointing me to Roosh’s tweet and the Reddit thread!
Ugh. An old friend of mine struggled with an eating disorder for 6 – 7 years. She’s about 5’9″ and at one point weighed 89 pounds. At the age of 24, she’s had three heart attacks. She also can’t have children anymore, and fucked up her throat from puking so much. She’s better now, but still struggles with that attitude.
So Mike, please tell me how seeking out someone like that is “good for men.” People with eating disorders aren’t low maintenance (which seems to be the main argument here), they actually need a lot of help from a lot of people just to stay alive.
I think La Strega really nailed it. I doubt Roosh is really kicking ass in the money department. He’s clearly getting desperate for hits too, trying to milk the whole Edgy-on-the-Internet thing. It looks like he’s trying to be the next Maddox or Tucker Max, which is fine by me because I can’t remember the last time anyone mentioned those guys. It looked like they were gonna be a fairly biggish deal for a few years, then pretty much everybody stopped caring. Very few people think this shit is funny or interesting anymore, most of us just go “ewwww,” make fun of them for a bit, and then move on.
Also, why isn’t a woman cooking for him!? C’mon, Roosh!
Those negatives are not really our problem. Women with eating disorders are easy targets for sex just like other types of crazy women. You may not like it, but it’s clearly true.
Hey Mike, why don’t you fuck off? You’re just as awful as you might suspect you are.
“I am not responsible for my words!”
…
Firstly, “crazy women.”
Secondly, “targets for sex.”
Yow.
These statements reveal much about you. Nothing good.
Clearly? Fuck, I don’t see it, so it’s obviously not CLEAR, whatever else it may be.
Plus, not true at all. So there’s that.
Because attractive women are better than a fleshlight. I don’t go out of my way to find women with an eating disorder, but would I have sex with an attractive one? Absolutely. I don’t like women who are too skinny though.
My god, notes from Mike’s boner. How did we live this long, survive through the cold dark winter of our soul, without knowing exactly how skinny is too skinny for his harsh, harsh judgemental bone?
Women = Cum Targets? And you win if you hit bullseye (sex)?
That’s… depressing.
When I see an attractive woman, I am targeting her. I think to myself, “what do I need to do to get in and out with the least amount of money, time and energy spent.”
Whoa. That’s dehumanizing to the extreme.
You don’t actually LIKE women, is what you’re saying.
Wow. Really? I’m guessing whatever sex Mike is having it’s not that good. Little hint: sex with an enthusiastic partner where it’s all about mutual pleasure is loads more fun than using a person as a living fleshlight.
In Mike’s case the answer is “be a completely different person”.
“Targets for sex”
Well, see, there’s your problem right there (besides being a colossal asshole,that is). Sex is nothing like target practice.
Be fair, Sparky. It’s just like target practice in that he usually misses.
All guys get rejected, it’s no big deal. The idea is to target enough women until one bites, and learn things on the way.
It’s like Mike is reading from his handbook, dehumanization 101.
And it’s just super creepy to read. Geez.
Mikey, your doing it wrong. And nobody cares about your pathetic attempts at, eh, dating? Have sex? Be a totally sleazy scumbag? Whatever it is your trying to do.
Dolls: friendlier, cheaper, and reusable. Also: it’ll make us all happier.
I’m not justifying anything, I’m just saying attractive women have what I want, and I will use whatever tools at my disposal, excluding rape, to get what I want. Whatever issues she has is not my problem. She’s a grown woman, she can make her own decisions.
Hmmm, I posted something and it’s not showing up…. Sorry if something like this shows up twice.
If you’re in bed with a woman and she has a heart attack, that is your problem. If you’re walking in public with a woman and she passes out from weakness, that is your problem. The fact that you may have to pay less for food once in a while is a very, very, tiny perk, and also, many women have a combination of anorexia and bulima, which means there’s a good chance she’s going to be eating waaaaay more then needed, not less.
“I don’t like women who are too skinny though.”
Thin =/= eating disorder, you maroon.
“I’m just saying attractive women have what I want”
Why are eating disorders attractive to you? Again, thin =/= eating disorder. This post is about women with eating disorders, not thin women.
Okay, I officially petition to have Mike banned. It’s one thing to troll, it’s another to explicitly state you’re okay with raping women.
I’m guessing 30 seconds. May as well buy that fleshlight, chump.
Not necessarily. I knew a bulimic who didn’t even look like she had an eating disorder.
“Not necessarily. I knew a bulimic who didn’t even look like she had an eating disorder”
Not necessarily what? That thin = eating disorder? Because I just said that. This post is about eating disorders, not being thin.