So our old friend Roosh Valizadeh seems to have fully embraced the Matt Forney school of misogynist internet celebrity, posting over-the-top offensive posts in a transparent attempt to gin up controversy and blog traffic. And it’s working: he’s brought an avalanche of well-deserved hate down upon himself. But don’t worry: he’s still got some supporters — not only on his own blog but in the Men’s Rights subreddit.
The post that’s been keeping the servers hosting Roosh’s Return of Kings blog busy lately is a guest post by Tuthmosis with the title “5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder.”
It’s pretty much as awful as you’d imagine. Reason 1: “Her obsession over her body will improve her overall looks.” Number 2: “She costs less money” because she’ll only order salads at dinner. Hilarious. It’s all so predictably “provocative” it’s not worth quoting in any more detail.
Roosh has responded to the controversy with an, er, “Publisher Response” that was clearly designed to further stir the shit. In it, he claimed that the original post
contains value for men who want to date thin women in America, a country that is currently facing a devastating obesity epidemic, which we recently highlighted with Fat Shaming Week.
He followed this by claiming that Return of Kings wasn’t promoting eating disorders, merely trying to help women struggling with eating disorders find happiness in love:
We are educating our masculine readers not to pass on eating disorder victims just because they have an illness, yet instead of receiving thanks, we’re receiving hate instead. If we all had cancer, and someone wrote an article titled “5 Reasons To Fornicate With A Man Who Has Cancer,” we would spread it far and wide to make fornicating with us a better proposition for women. We would not send death threats or calls for censorship like is happening to us now. I think a bit more graciousness is in order for our unorthodox method of outreach.
As a much less obnoxious internet celebrity once put it:
Despite setting out to offend as many people as possible, Roosh reacted with indignation when he discovered that someone on the Men’s Rights subreddit had dared to suggest that perhaps he had stepped over the line a bit.
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/403290871854280704
What’s doubly ironic about this tweet is that he actually has a lot of defenders in that thread — and that the thread itself has gotten twice as many downvotes as upvotes. Only a few found the Return of Kings post offensive; the others dismissed it as clickbait — or agreed with it.
One commenter, posting under the name of a famous turn-of-the-twentieth centuryantifeminist and opponent of women’s suffrage, apparently sees Roosh as some sort of heroic defender of anorexic women:
Meanwhile, the ironically named LogicalDebater beamed us this message from his home planet:
And our old friend Demonspawn, quoting from a commenter on Return of Kings, blamed the outrage on fat, ugly feminists jealous because men would rather date thin women.
![Demonspawn [-1] 1 point 21 hours ago (8|7) This comment on the followup article nailed it to the wall: The anger was only thinly veiled by the eating disorder arguments. Ultimately the original article was about accepting women albeit with the benefit that she's thin and won't cost as much, but I think that is the rub. The feminist hate speech directed in the comments and emails to this site was latent anger at a man's desire to date thin women. Since feminism encourages the destruction of female beauty and femininity most feminists have a hatred toward anything that encourages or accepts women for these traits. The hate directed at this site under the guise of "eating disorders" is just that, the article hit a rough nerve with feminists who hate beauty and acceptance when it is defined by men.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/demon.png?resize=525%2C242&ssl=1)
Men’s Rights Activists often complain about being lumped together with pickup artists; here, many of them have chosen to associate themselves with Roosh at his worst.
The greatest human rights movement of the 21st century, folks!
EDIT: Belated thanks to Snork Maiden for pointing me to Roosh’s tweet and the Reddit thread!
RE: PUA Hate
All they do is rant and think it is going hurt his feelings when it won’t.
We mock him for OUR sake. Not his.
If you don’t agree with thing that I’m suggesting you must never have tried it! So you should!
First rule of holes, people.
Jojo – I have had chicken thighs. I don’t like them, which is why I stick to breasts.
I know what I’m “missing”, but honestly, I like the breasts.
Jesus, chicken thighs are OK, but they’re not the second coming of poultry. Give it a rest.
Jojo: Do you actually think that everyone who likes chicken breasts has never eaten chicken thighs?
Or, for that matter, that if we hadn’t eaten chicken thighs, we’d be unable to tell when food is dry and tasteless?
And couldn’t we turn it around and tell you that if you think chicken breasts are bad you’ve obviously just never had them properly prepared?
Jojo, why’s it so important to you what other people are eating?
Protip: pushing stuff on people who’ve already said they are not interested isn’t welcome on this site. Food bullies are just as annoying as any other sort. Been there, done that.
Mr. HK does prefer to use thighs when he makes his teryaki chicken, but other than that, it’s usually breasts.
Or are they?
I like kissing women, therefore those of you here who don’t currently think you like kissing women should try it. You don’t know what you’re missing!
(Are we going to have to deploy glove puppets to make this point or was that clear enough?)
Katz: LOL, but that looks like a leg. Jojo wasn’t proselytizing about them. Yet.
Cutting boards? If you have a dishwasher and a handy hardware shop, just buy half a dozen offcuts of untreated pine. Use one at a time and chuck in the dishwasher. If they get wrecked (because someone (you) overlooked oiling them) it’s no pain to get rid of them.
Chicken thighs? Good for things that require more cooking than just stir fry or roast. Casseroles and risottos and the like. A bit more flavour than breasts.
Also, honestly, I know how to properly prepare chicken breasts. Minus one case, they’ve never come out dry or tasteless. If anything, they’re extremely flavorful, and it smells good. It’s not as if I don’t know how to cook.
I actually prefer pork to chicken. Mmmmmm pork.
(This may or may not be related to my hubby making delicious things happen in his cooking adventures.)
“Chicken breasts are objectively awful” is not a hill I would choose to die on. I do prefer thighs, but I find breasts easier to cook, which is important as I am an awful, awful cook.
I am so not caught up here but the fuck is this shit?
“…Therefore I have concluded that having an eating disorder would be more beneficial to a girl’s health and society as a whole than weighing over 135 pounds.”
I just double checked and assuming she’s at least 5’2″, 135 pounds is in the normal range by BMI (horrible standard though it is, not even Roosh can be this stupid can he?!)
Potentially deadly disorder vs. a bit on the heavier side of the normal range, if she’s shorter. That isn’t even fat acceptance, that’s HOLY SHIT WOMEN ARE PEOPLE!
Oh…there’s the problem. He doesn’t think women are people and thus ANY body fat is too much. Unless it’s in her breasts, then it’s good.
I like both pork and chicken. However, I think mangos are better than apples, so you all better go try some right now or I will assume you lack a sense of adventure and/or just don’t know how to select fruit properly.
I’m perfectly happy to throw a frozen breazt schnitzel into the oven. Dry and flavourless? Nope.
I am not perfectly happy to have someone nagging me about what to eat, or how bad my food choices are, because they don’t happen to like it. It’s right up there with that “timid palate” bullshit from the “you have to eat hot stuff, it’s got MOAR FLAVOR” brigade.
So far, Jojo’s had the “nurses are all terrible people cus the ones I met are” (common denominator?) and “you should all be eating what I tell you”. 0/2.
Honestly, I can’t stand eating pork anymore. I think it’s because I now associate pork with “the only meal available tonight, so you have to eat this or starve, hahahaha, fuck you, also no veggies tonight, love you, Mom and Dad”.
This is a personal issue however, and I’ll still eat it if I had to. But it’s not my preference.
RE: Argenti
not even Roosh can be this stupid can he?!
No Boobzer was ever harmed by underestimating the intelligence and humanity of Roosh.
“However, I think mangos are better than apples”
Oooh, that’s a tough one! Mango juice is yums, apple juice is, well, used to “water” other juices down cuz it’s cheaper and basically flavorless. Otoh, eating a mango without a blender is all messy whereas apples make good go food.
I can’t decide!
Unless there’s vodka involved, in which case mangos win.
Of course, the only meat I’ll eat is poultry.
Based on the pic above my new theory is that he’s a werewolf. This explains why he finds our human world so confusing, and why he does not appear to understand how to operate tools such as meat tenderizers or showers.
“No Boobzer was ever harmed by underestimating the intelligence and humanity of Roosh.”
Good point. But I mean fuck, at my height 135 is ever so slightly above the middle of the healthy range. Like, 1 BMI point off mid-line. So even by that fucked up standard he’s trying to claim that a potentially deadly disorder is “healthier” than fucking middle of the normal weight range.
Perhaps he’s a wereman, like Lupine in Reaper Man, who’s a wolf for three weeks and turns into a wolf-man in the fourth.
Also everyone knows that werewolves hate baths.
RE: Argenti
So even by that fucked up standard he’s trying to claim that a potentially deadly disorder is “healthier” than fucking middle of the normal weight range.
Well, yeah, but even basic logic will make you realize that being underweight is WAY more dangerous than being overweight. It takes a lot of work to eat yourself to death; starving yourself, not so much.