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Roosh V, trolling for page views with deliberately offensive posts, finds some supporters in the Men’s Rights subreddit

The glamorous life of an internet king
The glamorous life of an internet king

So our old friend Roosh Valizadeh seems to have fully embraced the Matt Forney school of misogynist internet celebrity, posting over-the-top offensive posts in a transparent attempt to gin up controversy and blog traffic. And it’s working: he’s brought an avalanche of well-deserved hate down upon himself. But don’t worry: he’s still got some supporters — not only on his own blog but in the Men’s Rights subreddit.

The post that’s been keeping the servers hosting Roosh’s Return of Kings blog busy lately is a guest post by Tuthmosis with the title “5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder.”

It’s pretty much as awful as you’d imagine. Reason 1: “Her obsession over her body will improve her overall looks.” Number 2:  “She costs less money” because she’ll only order salads at dinner. Hilarious. It’s all so predictably “provocative” it’s not worth quoting in any more detail.

Roosh has responded to the controversy with an, er, “Publisher Response” that was clearly designed to further stir the shit. In it, he claimed that the original post

contains value for men who want to date thin women in America, a country that is currently facing a devastating obesity epidemic, which we recently highlighted with Fat Shaming Week.

He followed this by claiming that Return of Kings wasn’t promoting eating disorders, merely trying to help women struggling with eating disorders find happiness in love:

We are educating our masculine readers not to pass on eating disorder victims just because they have an illness, yet instead of receiving thanks, we’re receiving hate instead. If we all had cancer, and someone wrote an article titled “5 Reasons To Fornicate With A Man Who Has Cancer,” we would spread it far and wide to make fornicating with us a better proposition for women. We would not send death threats or calls for censorship like is happening to us now. I think a bit more graciousness is in order for our unorthodox method of outreach.

As a much less obnoxious internet celebrity once put it:

yous trollin

Despite setting out to offend as many people as possible, Roosh reacted with indignation when he discovered that someone on the Men’s Rights subreddit had dared to suggest that perhaps he had stepped over the line a bit.

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/403290871854280704

What’s doubly ironic about this tweet is that he actually has a lot of defenders in that thread — and that the thread itself has gotten twice as many downvotes as upvotes. Only a few found the Return of Kings post offensive; the others dismissed it as clickbait — or agreed with it.

One commenter, posting under the name of a famous turn-of-the-twentieth centuryantifeminist and opponent of women’s suffrage, apparently sees Roosh as some sort of heroic defender of anorexic women:

ernestbelfortbax 8 points 21 hours ago (17|9)  When obesity is the number 1 health problem in the West for young girls, why do feminists promote 'fat acceptance' and 'fat is beautiful' campaigns, and yet wish to skin alive a male author for suggesting that anorexic girls are loveable?

Meanwhile, the ironically named LogicalDebater beamed us this message from his home planet:

LogicalDebater 6 points 21 hours ago (14|8)  Well, the problem is that this article is NOT sexist. It's simply observation but put crudely and probably in a slightly sarcastic manner.  Women have disturbingly high standards for men. It's easy for any female to find a man regardless of how she looks, but a male has to compete fiercely or be left out and considered a virgin. However, the mere notion of these lowly males wanting women who aren't militant feminists strikes rage in the hearts of their peers.  Maybe one day women will need to watch their weight, income, and ability to please lest they be left in the dust much like men today. Women aren't the ones with body and self-image issues, it's men. Just another lie to make women seem like the eternal victims of a feminist utopia.

And our old friend Demonspawn, quoting from a commenter on Return of Kings, blamed the outrage on fat, ugly feminists jealous because men would rather date thin women.

Demonspawn [-1] 1 point 21 hours ago (8|7)  This comment on the followup article nailed it to the wall:  The anger was only thinly veiled by the eating disorder arguments. Ultimately the original article was about accepting women albeit with the benefit that she's thin and won't cost as much, but I think that is the rub. The feminist hate speech directed in the comments and emails to this site was latent anger at a man's desire to date thin women. Since feminism encourages the destruction of female beauty and femininity most feminists have a hatred toward anything that encourages or accepts women for these traits. The hate directed at this site under the guise of "eating disorders" is just that, the article hit a rough nerve with feminists who hate beauty and acceptance when it is defined by men.

Men’s Rights Activists often complain about being lumped together with pickup artists; here, many of them have chosen to associate themselves with Roosh at his worst.

The greatest human rights movement of the 21st century, folks!

EDIT: Belated thanks to Snork Maiden for pointing me to Roosh’s tweet and the Reddit thread!

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cloudiah
11 years ago

Am I invisible? I said please and everything.

katz
11 years ago

Moma Sita drinking game:

One shot every time she says any of the following words or phrases:
-“reading comprehension”
-“feral”
-“clique”
-“viper” or any other snake and/or venomous creature
-“critical thinking”
-“delusion”

One shot every time she misuses a term (eg, “intersectionality” or “censorship”).

One shot for every mention of white people problems or straight people problems.

One shot for every provably inaccurate claim. Two shots if she insists it’s true after being corrected.

One shot every time she threatens to email David.

One shot every time she doesn’t capitalize a name (not counting names that aren’t capitalized). Two shots if it’s your name.

One shot for a flounce.

If she accuses you of being mentally ill, finish your drink.

Two shots every time she responds to a request by demanding you do something first.

And finish your drink any time she accuses someone else of doing something (eg, misgendering) while herself doing that very thing in that very post.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Silly cloudiah, why would you want to ask such a question? It’s clear that Mona’s doing some historical revisionism, to the effect that everyone else BUT her are wrong.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I like how she’s trying to slpit airs between “mentally unbalanced” and “mentally ill.” It’s like she knows she fucked up, but can’t stop digging.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Slpit airs? Ha, split hairs.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Katz: do you want us all dead from alcohol poisoning?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Trolling works best when a certain level of subtlety is used. Our new friend is making it way too obvious.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

hellkell – On the other hand, our livers and brains would be very, very, very happy, up to the point where they say “fuck it, PARTAYYYYYYYYYYYY” and give up on us.

katz
11 years ago

Admittedly I’m counting 12 shots on this page alone, so maybe it’s an unwise drinking game.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

In order for this drinking game to be safe-ish I think we need to only drink when she does all of the thing katz listed in a single comment.

(Forum? Blog? Maybe the new word for a single comment section is “intranet”. Commenting there is known as “systems administration”.)

Brooked
Brooked
11 years ago

Moma Sita called Alice “a complete and utter drollish child”. How does that function as insult?
“You are reasonably witty child, immature with a dry, sophisticated sense of humor! THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU’VE DONE!”

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

katz – How about a shot for every time Moma DOESN’T do these things. But you can only drink if she doesn’t do any of the conditions; if she does, sip some water. *nod*

ignotussomnium
11 years ago

Hope that this works. Some cute for a troll-filled thread.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ1tj7HZh2M&w=560&h=315]

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

augzilliary – SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. You’re right. Don’t want to risk death by dilutional hyponatremia.

Uh……..

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Ooh, it’s the Moma Sita challenge! We’re allowed to drink only if she makes a sensible comment with no explosion of thesaurus-throwing petulance.

Wait, then we’ll never get to drink. I’ve changed my mind, this game sucks.

cloudiah
11 years ago

OMG, make popcorn! (Link goes to AVfM but through donotlink.com. Paul Elam is going to debate someone named Charles Clymer next Tuesday, and it will be moderated by Dean Esmay.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

What’s the over/under on Elam being too busy watching Air Force One on the day of the debate and bags it?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Ever since I saw that pic of the rally I keep imagining Esmay belting out songs American Idol-stye. As a way of moderating debates this has entertainment potential. Maybe he can sing Michael Bolton songs to indicate that a speaker has gone on for too long and is boring the audience.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I can see him being a Michael Bolton fan.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Charles Clymer is @cmclymer on Twitter. This is going to be hilarious.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Oh man, Elam’s going to debate Clymer?

DAMN IT I WON’T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE MY FREAKING BUILDING’S TESTING THE FREAKING FIRE ALARMS THAT DAY. >:(

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Also, AVFM cannot do site design, at all. On my screen, the logo’s half hidden.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
11 years ago

Oh wow, I have never heard of the guy Elam’s debating but I am super excited! Can someone record it, pretty pretty please? I don’t want to view it on an MRA site.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Troll cleanup on aisle five, Frotha Sita is back and having a fine old rant at Talacaris this time.

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