So our old friend Roosh Valizadeh seems to have fully embraced the Matt Forney school of misogynist internet celebrity, posting over-the-top offensive posts in a transparent attempt to gin up controversy and blog traffic. And it’s working: he’s brought an avalanche of well-deserved hate down upon himself. But don’t worry: he’s still got some supporters — not only on his own blog but in the Men’s Rights subreddit.
The post that’s been keeping the servers hosting Roosh’s Return of Kings blog busy lately is a guest post by Tuthmosis with the title “5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder.”
It’s pretty much as awful as you’d imagine. Reason 1: “Her obsession over her body will improve her overall looks.” Number 2: “She costs less money” because she’ll only order salads at dinner. Hilarious. It’s all so predictably “provocative” it’s not worth quoting in any more detail.
Roosh has responded to the controversy with an, er, “Publisher Response” that was clearly designed to further stir the shit. In it, he claimed that the original post
contains value for men who want to date thin women in America, a country that is currently facing a devastating obesity epidemic, which we recently highlighted with Fat Shaming Week.
He followed this by claiming that Return of Kings wasn’t promoting eating disorders, merely trying to help women struggling with eating disorders find happiness in love:
We are educating our masculine readers not to pass on eating disorder victims just because they have an illness, yet instead of receiving thanks, we’re receiving hate instead. If we all had cancer, and someone wrote an article titled “5 Reasons To Fornicate With A Man Who Has Cancer,” we would spread it far and wide to make fornicating with us a better proposition for women. We would not send death threats or calls for censorship like is happening to us now. I think a bit more graciousness is in order for our unorthodox method of outreach.
As a much less obnoxious internet celebrity once put it:
Despite setting out to offend as many people as possible, Roosh reacted with indignation when he discovered that someone on the Men’s Rights subreddit had dared to suggest that perhaps he had stepped over the line a bit.
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/403290871854280704
What’s doubly ironic about this tweet is that he actually has a lot of defenders in that thread — and that the thread itself has gotten twice as many downvotes as upvotes. Only a few found the Return of Kings post offensive; the others dismissed it as clickbait — or agreed with it.
One commenter, posting under the name of a famous turn-of-the-twentieth centuryantifeminist and opponent of women’s suffrage, apparently sees Roosh as some sort of heroic defender of anorexic women:
Meanwhile, the ironically named LogicalDebater beamed us this message from his home planet:
And our old friend Demonspawn, quoting from a commenter on Return of Kings, blamed the outrage on fat, ugly feminists jealous because men would rather date thin women.
![Demonspawn [-1] 1 point 21 hours ago (8|7) This comment on the followup article nailed it to the wall: The anger was only thinly veiled by the eating disorder arguments. Ultimately the original article was about accepting women albeit with the benefit that she's thin and won't cost as much, but I think that is the rub. The feminist hate speech directed in the comments and emails to this site was latent anger at a man's desire to date thin women. Since feminism encourages the destruction of female beauty and femininity most feminists have a hatred toward anything that encourages or accepts women for these traits. The hate directed at this site under the guise of "eating disorders" is just that, the article hit a rough nerve with feminists who hate beauty and acceptance when it is defined by men.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/demon.png?resize=525%2C242&ssl=1)
Men’s Rights Activists often complain about being lumped together with pickup artists; here, many of them have chosen to associate themselves with Roosh at his worst.
The greatest human rights movement of the 21st century, folks!
EDIT: Belated thanks to Snork Maiden for pointing me to Roosh’s tweet and the Reddit thread!
auggziliary,
Pressuring a woman by endlessly hitting on her is coercive and douchey at the least worst end of the spectrum. Many women feel pressure to capitulate to the guy from socialization that encourages her to meet his demands first at the expense of her own welfare or dignity. With some women, usually with low self esteem constantly hitting on her makes her feel she needs to capitulate. What Mike does is most likely target women with low self esteem, constantly pressure her in the hopes that she’ll give in as a means of getting him to quit harassing her.
noadi,
Its a relief to see a level-headed suggestion of wondering if mike is a troll rather than the usual hoi polloi found on blogs who start yelping that someone is a troll merely because they have a different opinion of yours and are defending it. More noadis types around the better. There’s nothing worse than arguing with a mentally unbalanced person (not necessarily mentally ill) who refuses to even comprehend your posts nonetheless have a mature and honest debate with you.
Shut up, Moma Sita.
Moma: Yay, you’re back! I’ve been dying to ask how you knew Kitteh was male.
viscaria:”Looks like someone is a 9-comments-in-40-minutes kind of devoted to proving that she won’t be silenced by us mean mean meanies.”
Who the fuck are you viscaria? You another troll? Jesus this site is filled with them, argenti, alice, Cassandra, and now viscera-whoever the fuck you are, you want to make an enemy, fine. Who says that I’m ‘proving’ I wont be silenced? I’m just blogging you twit. It ain’t about you so get over yourself. Good God get the help you need.
Okay, Moma Sita has corrected me. Zie is a troll. Sorry for doubting your judgement, hellkell–really, I should know better on that front.
Moma: do you even read what the hell you spew?
Go step on legos hellkell. Gawd you asshats love making enemy’s huh? You create an anti-social environment on this blog. I mean, who the fuck are you to tell me to shut up? You don’t own this blog, you don’t have the authority to tell me what I can and cannot do on it nor what posts get allowed or not, you are just a bunch of mentally unbalanced trolls that create a negative hate filled space on this blog.
Katz, I’ve been dying to ask you how you had the right to call me a racist on the last forum? You haven’t defended yourself and fully admit you lost, right?
Technically, you aren’t blogging. David is blogging.
Could you please answer katz’ question?
What’s a fleshlight —
Roosh/Doosh and his comrades would love ‘my eating disorder.’ I don’t even want anyone to like me when I’m “fat.” Absolutely, hate people telling me I look good when I know I’m “fat.” When I really am fat, I won’t even leave the house. So I guess they have the desired effect on me anyway — Roosh could write another blog post and call it “sweet success, at least there’s one fat cow I don’t have to look at.”
Careful, cupcake, you might blow a gasket. Take your ableist bullshit, roll it into a tight ball, and shove it, you fucking moron.
freemage,
What do you define as a troll? I haven’t posted anything racist, misogynistic or homophobic in any posts nor anything anti-social like Mike regarding his “dating” habits. Argenti, Cassandra, alice and now freemage and viscaria are the true anti-social trolls and the former three started some shit on another post. Defending myself and doing the exact same thing they do is not trollish. If I’m a troll then so are argenti, Cassandra and alice. They completely derailed his forum and made it about their own bullshit. Its like I’m on thanksgiving break, don’t you have jobs? Why are you posting here 24/7 at all hours of the night?
hellkell,
Where did my post show anything “ableist?” Is Glenn Beck not mentally unbalanced? Mentally unbalanced is not the same thing as mentally ill or mentally disabled. By deliberately misinterpreting my posts and not only misinterpreting them, but misinterpreting them in he most degenerate manner possible and then writing incredible anti-social and hostile quips personally targeting me rather than writing an explanation like an adult would do you are the true trolls. Shit, argenti, alice, Cassandra, and now visceria, katz and hellkell now just made this forum about their trollish bullshit. GET HELP.
This is why blogs are no longer a form of ‘getting your voice out there,’ is because of cliquish and hostile behavior from a few who most likely have.no.life.
Kitkat – Imagine a flashlight, but instead of a light, you have a hole where you stick your dick in and fuck. Basically, sort of like a portable vagina.
kitkat,
A fleshlight is a masturbation device that looks similar to a flashlight. I don’t want to link because it may be to graphic for some, but just type it in and you’ll see. They also have fake vaginas mold.
Why didn’t I think of that!?
And KitKat, a fleshlight is a male sex toy, looks like a long cup with a vagina on top.
I’m sorry that you had to read this scumbaggery, by the way. Internet hugs and kisses for you if you like.
alice,
“you have a hole where you stick your dick in and fuck. Basically, sort of like a portable vagina”
Real classy explanation. Because vaginas are just a ‘hole for fucking,’
right?
HA KItKat got so many answers!
… What is going on in this thread. What happened. Where am I.
baileyrenee,
Its got to be so pathetic to be a type like Roosh. The reason he has to go abroad to poorer countries is to exploit the economic situation there so that women who would not normally look twice at a guy like Roosh would reconsider. He knows he’d never make it in an economically developed area where he cant exploit economic issues to get a lay. Other guys become whoremongers.
I sincerely wish we had an ignore button right about now. Because the stupidity is going to give me a brain aneurysm at this rate.
augzillary,
Because there’s no power and control over a life-less form I would guess. No marking the notches with someone whose always available and isn’t a ‘conquer.’
Oops, I meant conquest, not conquer.
Oh, Moma Sita, I wanted to ask. Did you email David on how we were all terrible people and how you should be the sole commenter on Manboobz because clearly you can’t handle criticism?
alice,
It is only YOU who has the problem. You are the troll. I have made two posts having nothing whatsoever to do with you and yet you have tried to steer this debate and make it all about you again. If you don’t like my posts then don’t read them-no button is needed! I would prefer it if you wouldn’t read my posts because you lack critical thinking skills, reading comprehension and interpret my posts in the most asinine manner possible-worse you start a rant session about it if not irrational accusations of ‘trolling’ and when confronted with your glaring mistakes refuse to correct them preferring instead the inflation of self-righteousness you get from slaying imaginary dragons.
No ignore button needed, just ignore my posts-please, seriously you suck at reading.
I am rather amused by Moma’s habit of referring to everyone by name, but forgetting who said what.