Let’s say you wake up one morning and you decide, for some reason, that you’d like to make it your goal for the day to get yourself banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
If you’re a feminist, it’s not hard. I managed to get myself banned there some time ago and all I had to do was … well, I’m not exactly sure what it was I did. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything out of the ordinary, Reddit-wise, other than argue with the regulars there. It’s possible I may have engaged in some light sarcasm. So maybe try that.
If, on the other hand, you hate women, all you have to do is … well, again, I’m not sure. Because earlier today, as one friend of Man Boobz pointed out on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit, a dislikeable fellow who calls himself sciencegod posted an elaborate, graphic torture fantasy to the Men’s Rights subreddit. I’m posting it below as a thumbnail; click to see it full size, but TRIGGER WARNING because it’s very graphic.
It got some downvotes, and the mods deleted the comment. But it didn’t occur to any of the mods, evidently, to actually ban this user from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
Because obviously anything he might ever have to say on the subject of Men’s Rights is much more worthwhile than anything I might ever have to say on the subject.
I asked the mods why they felt it necessary to ban me when they wouldn’t ban someone like sciencegod, and here’s the response I got back:
![sillymod [M] via /r/MensRights/ sent 51 minutes ago We don't answer to you. You have zero influence through which to get a discussion out of us. Goodbye.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sillymod.png?resize=521%2C124&ssl=1)
This is pretty much the answer I get whenever I ask them anything. I could ask them if they thought the sky was blue and they’d send me the same response and probably put something in the sidebar saying the sky was red.
Ironically, elsewhere in the Men’s Rights subreddit today I learned this:
Huh. Where on earth might I have gotten the impression that there are MRAs who hate women?
Oops. There’s that sarcasm again. When will I ever learn?
Yes, because we’re all a bunch of ass-backward inbred dumbfuck hicks. Granted, there is plenty to dislike about Texas, but this comment really rubbed me the wrong way. You may not have meant it, but it came off as really condescending and rude.
@grumpycatisagirl: Apparently, the principal is trying to get Wendy Davis to speak at the high school. Hopefully, it’s not just a “There, now are you fuckers happy?” move.
I’m not really digging the idea of people outside the state deciding who runs on the state’s ticket either. It does smell of the idea that people there can’t get anything right by themselves (I guess Ann Richards was a figment of the collective imagination).
“They don’t actually think we hate women…”
This is true. We *know* they do.
Is it sad that my first reaction was, “pathetic, this chucklehead can’t even come up with his own tortures”. The he had to use a threat made to convince someone else to surrender in a piece of fiction because his hate is so vast; and his scope of thought so limited, he can’t think of anything suitably horrid to do to the class of people who people his obsession?
It’s an interesting illustration of how self-focused MRAs are. When they say that they think feminists hate men I believe them – I think they’re wrong, but I believe that they genuinely believe what they’re saying. Whereas they don’t seem to be capable of recognizing the fact that other people see things differently than they do. There’s a consistent sense of “and now i will ignore your reality and replace it with my own” that makes me wonder if they understand that people other than themselves have subjectivity.
hellkell: Sorry, I meant the next Democratic Presidential ticket, to be precise. I can’t vote for her for Texas Governor (though I do hope she wins). I want her, or someone like her, that I can actually vote for directly.
Alternately, I would cheerfully applaud her moving to Illinois, since we lack strong-willed candidates here, leading to a hopeless muddle in our statehouse.
I know what I was trying to say with the “strong impression” comment. I’m also aware of how it reads right now. Mea culpa, and frankly, I’m gonna exercise the First Rule here.
And since I didn’t do a re-read, I also dropped the actual apology, so: Sorry for the accidental condescension, hellkell (and other Texans).
OT: I don’t remember which thread had the discussion about a banhammer for femborg(and I don’t want to necro it anyway), so I’m just going to put this here: http://fymarvelcrafts.tumblr.com/post/66991430726/a-twins-mew-mew-mjolnir-kittens-you-can-adopt
Chibigodzilla – OMGWANTSOCUTE!
But I want the black one!
@kittehs
Lol. You read my mind!
Mordshoth
Oops, sorry. Hit the post button by accident!
MordsmithJ said:
“Meh, he stole that from The Princess Bride.”
Except that in MHO Wendsley did it far better. I think it was something about the clipped English accent and the deadpan delivery.
Banhammer kitty has been added to the cute queue 🙂
Some Dude said:
“Why am I telling you this? YOU DAVID FUTRELLE ARE NOTORIOUS FOR BANNING PEOPLE GUILTY OF NOTHING MORE THAN DISAGREEING WITH YOU OR YOUR CROWD!”
I love it when they get all incoherent and melodramatic!
If disagreeing with David or his crowd gets you banned, how come we’re still here?
We disagreed with David over the definition of rape recently.
We disagree with each other over heaps of things, sometimes heatedly.
So … who’s doing the banning? Are we banned for disagreeing with David? Is he banned for disagreeing with us? Are we all banned?
::head explodes::
We’ve banned David and taken control of his blog. And his kitties.
Now he’s making us all sandwiches.
Translation: Why won’t you let me fling poop around here like a flying monkey gone berserk? MISANDRY!!!
cloudiah – Delicious sandwiches. Then we’ll feed him to KittySharks. *nod*
Seeing how we’re all David, I guess we’re all both banned and unbanned? Schrödinger’s banning?
Is David going to write a book on how he made
300 sandwiches for one personone sandwich each for 300 people?Shrodinger’s banning, I like it. You never know if Schrodinger’s Cat has hit you with the banhammer until it’s too late!
That troll comment was particularly amusing because David was criticizing r/mr for not banning people.
Rereading the post this morn, I had a few random thoughts:
1. “Sillymod”, while obviously meaning sarcasm with that choice of monickers, actually picked the exact right name. The bar is obviously set very low for mods there, if indeed there is any bar at all. (See also Irony, impaired sense of.)
2. “We don’t answer to you” = we like our little woman-hating echo chamber, thankyouverymuch. Stop questioning and criticizing us, you bumptious interloping brute! MISANDRYYYYY!
3. “They know we don’t hate women” = see again Irony, impaired sense of.
4. Deleted comment was deleted only because it directly contradicts #3. And because it gets in the way of people seeing and agreeing. And that totally ruins the nice, tidy echo-chamber effect that the aptly named “sillymod” is striving so hard to maintain!
5. Violentacrez. Srsly, WTF???
6. Nope, I won’t be joining Reddit any time soon. Or EVER.
katz: That troll comment was particularly amusing because David was criticizing r/mr for not banning people.
More like he was complaining the standards by which they ban are fucked up.
All in all, we could probably survive a higher ban rate; but I don’t quite know where to draw the line. I get the feeling that was some guy (it didn’t have the feel of an Eoghan, or some of the other really creepy dudes from the past).
Someone who got upset that because he got the bum’s rush, he’s not allowed back in.
“Wah!”