Let’s say you wake up one morning and you decide, for some reason, that you’d like to make it your goal for the day to get yourself banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
If you’re a feminist, it’s not hard. I managed to get myself banned there some time ago and all I had to do was … well, I’m not exactly sure what it was I did. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything out of the ordinary, Reddit-wise, other than argue with the regulars there. It’s possible I may have engaged in some light sarcasm. So maybe try that.
If, on the other hand, you hate women, all you have to do is … well, again, I’m not sure. Because earlier today, as one friend of Man Boobz pointed out on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit, a dislikeable fellow who calls himself sciencegod posted an elaborate, graphic torture fantasy to the Men’s Rights subreddit. I’m posting it below as a thumbnail; click to see it full size, but TRIGGER WARNING because it’s very graphic.
It got some downvotes, and the mods deleted the comment. But it didn’t occur to any of the mods, evidently, to actually ban this user from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
Because obviously anything he might ever have to say on the subject of Men’s Rights is much more worthwhile than anything I might ever have to say on the subject.
I asked the mods why they felt it necessary to ban me when they wouldn’t ban someone like sciencegod, and here’s the response I got back:
![sillymod [M] via /r/MensRights/ sent 51 minutes ago We don't answer to you. You have zero influence through which to get a discussion out of us. Goodbye.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sillymod.png?resize=521%2C124&ssl=1)
This is pretty much the answer I get whenever I ask them anything. I could ask them if they thought the sky was blue and they’d send me the same response and probably put something in the sidebar saying the sky was red.
Ironically, elsewhere in the Men’s Rights subreddit today I learned this:
Huh. Where on earth might I have gotten the impression that there are MRAs who hate women?
Oops. There’s that sarcasm again. When will I ever learn?
@auggziliary
Does the mrm think no one can hide trauma? That the world stops just because something horrible happen? Because it doesn’t. You can’t stay stuck in one place just because something horrendous happen to you.
There are many different ways to cope with something like that happening.
This thread needs kitty picture:
http://i.imgur.com/MvrpG2a.jpg So a pile of cats… and I think, maybe, if I see it correctly one not feline furrinati is hiding in there too. :]
@Snacky Cake
Thanks for the exceedingly awful “support.”
@some guy etc etc
You can only actually be banned from a space once, until the issuer of that ban rescinds it (at which point, if you continue to do whatever got you kicked out in the first place, you might get yourself banned yet again). If you violate that ban and intrude where you’re not welcome, the issuer might enforce the ban that you’re ignoring like a total creeper, but that doesn’t mean you’re banned again.
Does the mrm think no one can hide trauma?
If my HTML code worked, FTFY
Tries again /sigh
Does the mrm think
no one can hide trauma?Snacky Cake: not a good first post. D+
Imagine, for a second someone here made post about an ex-boyfriend and how they wanted to cut his member off. What would the reaction be? But then, again, if the man cheated it obviously would be because of the woman’s fault etc etc blah blah.
1: Yup, my brain went to the Princess Bride, too. And I know exactly what the poster was doing when watching it–rooting for Humperdink, who wants to kill a woman to justify a manly man’s activity (war). If only it weren’t for that damned Beta Mangina Wesley coming along and screwing everything up.
2: The bit about ‘they’d be happy when we confirm it by speaking in public’ is a very, very weak attempt at playing Heads I Win, Tails You Lose. If you don’t get upset about misogynistic rants, well, obviously we’re not bothering you; if you do, then you should stop and just be happy about them, because they prove you right, right? So there’s never any reason to complain about the MRM’s vile conduct.
3: On the bit from the Cracked discussion thread: Dear fuck, no, shitwad, women aren’t walking around in a state of perma-shock. Neither, by the way, are the kids who grow up in war zones with constant bombings and guerrilla warfare; human beings in general are more resilient than that. Still, they DO suffer long-term effects that aren’t always immediately evident on the surface, and the trauma is very clearly not something they want.
Gizwardo — considering they still harp about someone’s support of Bobbett YEEAAARRRSSS ago…yeah, they’d dox over that prolly.
4: Snacky Cake: You’re getting some pushback on your post here. I’m’a try to explain, so you know it’s not just folks jumping on you for no reason. See, your post included multiple gendered slurs, specifically geared to suggesting that the men who are acting badly were ‘acting like women’. (Drama queen, and Big Mary). When you do that, you:
a: Insult women, by declaring anything associated with femininity weak.
b: Play into the environment of toxic masculinity that actually pushes along much of rape culture and the patriarchy in general.
c: Also are using language that’s been used to stereotype women and homosexual men alike.
This will not make you popular here, despite the fact that yes, you agree with us that these are awful, pathetic individuals. If that’s the thrust of your point, then my advice is thus–post an apology for the language used, try to do better, and in the meantime, enjoy the cat pics. Most of us have erred at one point or another, and sincere apologies are generally accepted (so long as the person making them makes an equally sincere effort at reforming the conduct in question). You’re getting stronger pushback, in large part, because that was also your first post here. We’ve had folks that try to push the boundaries on this sort of thing before, and those who aren’t willing to at least moderate their behavior here (let alone make a sincere attempt at actually considering the views expressed) have generally not left good impressions.
4.2 — this resident nut job is neither violent, nor thrilled to be associated with them.
OT — word is they’ve decided to send my grandfather to rehab, not hospice. I am a little cranky that they’d change opinion so drastically in <72 hours.
That’s great news, Argenti. I don’t blame you for being cranky, though. Did they say why they changed their minds?
Of course not. Women who have been raped do MUCH WORSE when they can’t get/win a trial. They have the audacity to TALK ABOUT IT AND NAME THEIR ACCUSER, RUINING A MAN’S LIFE!
*name their rapist.
damn not having an edit button.
As a nut job and a drama queen, I resent being associated with any of those horrible bigots.
Serrana — not that I’ve heard, no. My father said he looked terrible Friday, but when I was there yesterday he was looking like his usual smart ass self, so I’m guessing they were being hasty since he’s nearly 87. Yeah, 87, old enough to have been fighting the gov’n for years to get them to recognize that he actually was in Korea…stubborn as a mule doesn’t cease being stubborn just because he keeps falling over. (Stubborn and a smart ass, yes that’s where I get it from!)
auggzillary said:
And facepalm. So much wrongness. “Those women couldn’t have been raped! Rape victims only ever act in the way I think they act, and if they don’t, they must not really be rape victims.” No, wrong, just no.
And I’m pretty comfortable calling the MRM a hate group. I don’t think there are any “moderates” there; it’s like looking for moderates in any other hate group. They don’t exist. Anyone who would be truly “moderate” would be completely repulsed from the group by the rhetoric.
Malitia – yup, that’s a pile o’ cats on a St Bernard. Lovely pic!
volt – “A Voice for Sprouts: Botanist counter-theory in the age of misplantry”
Perfect! 😀
Vegetarianism is MISPLANTRY! *nod*
::splutter:: 😀
On which note, I must head to work!
How about some good news?
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/high_school_brings_in_christian_misogynist_to_lecture_students_about_dating_students_shut_him_down/
Here’s some hope for Texas. Some misogynistic prick was supposed to speak in a high school, the students united to verbally take him down. In Texas.
Good on the students – they’re why I have faith in young people!
But what kind of high school books someone like that as a “motivational speaker” in the first place? WTF.
“In response to these protests, the school issued a really weak apology explaining that it did not “support some of the terminology used by the speaker to generalize student behaviors.””
These kids deserve a better school.
As someone who enjoys criticizing Texas probably a bit too much, I’ve gotta say–when the folks down there get something right, it REALLY makes a powerful impression. I’m already calling for drafting Wendy Davis for the next Democratic ticket.
I suppose that living in a state so deeply entrenched means that you have to be extra-strong to stand up to the jerks.
Wendy Davis is already running for Governor next year, freemage.