Let’s say you wake up one morning and you decide, for some reason, that you’d like to make it your goal for the day to get yourself banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
If you’re a feminist, it’s not hard. I managed to get myself banned there some time ago and all I had to do was … well, I’m not exactly sure what it was I did. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything out of the ordinary, Reddit-wise, other than argue with the regulars there. It’s possible I may have engaged in some light sarcasm. So maybe try that.
If, on the other hand, you hate women, all you have to do is … well, again, I’m not sure. Because earlier today, as one friend of Man Boobz pointed out on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit, a dislikeable fellow who calls himself sciencegod posted an elaborate, graphic torture fantasy to the Men’s Rights subreddit. I’m posting it below as a thumbnail; click to see it full size, but TRIGGER WARNING because it’s very graphic.
It got some downvotes, and the mods deleted the comment. But it didn’t occur to any of the mods, evidently, to actually ban this user from the Men’s Rights subreddit.
Because obviously anything he might ever have to say on the subject of Men’s Rights is much more worthwhile than anything I might ever have to say on the subject.
I asked the mods why they felt it necessary to ban me when they wouldn’t ban someone like sciencegod, and here’s the response I got back:
![sillymod [M] via /r/MensRights/ sent 51 minutes ago We don't answer to you. You have zero influence through which to get a discussion out of us. Goodbye.](https://i0.wp.com/wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sillymod.png?resize=521%2C124&ssl=1)
This is pretty much the answer I get whenever I ask them anything. I could ask them if they thought the sky was blue and they’d send me the same response and probably put something in the sidebar saying the sky was red.
Ironically, elsewhere in the Men’s Rights subreddit today I learned this:
Huh. Where on earth might I have gotten the impression that there are MRAs who hate women?
Oops. There’s that sarcasm again. When will I ever learn?
They won’t ban him because he’s a GOD of SCIENCE, duh. And from what I’ve seen, they could use a little help with the sciencing.
The Greatest Human Rights Movement of Our Time strikes again!
Does this mean Dave is really Doug Piranha? :O
http://youtu.be/AmD8y0PJ2Vo
*reads the description*
…
Uh…
No. I’m sorry. I can’t mock this guy. That’s just terrible.
Also: understatement of the year. That’s not just terrible.
That’s [insert very creative swears and vulgarity to express disgust and horror].
@auggziliary
Oh my gosh, if they banned him they would be pissing off both science AND God! Better safe than sorry there.
Imagine the shitstorm we’d be wading through if one of us wrote something like that. Of course that person would be banned, unlike r/mensrights.
Y’know that gobshite’s doing a more sexualised version of what Westley says he’s going to do to Prince Humperdinck in The Princess Bride? Even the bit about his victim hearing the screams of others is lifted straight from that scene. So add “unoriginal” as a minor element of his catalogue of loserdom.
Dollars to doughnuts, they only deleted it because they knew it made them look bad.
Is that better or worse than light treason?
I don’t understand how that scenario “sciencegod” spelled out is supposed to help men and boys.
But then, I do just have a ladybrain that thinks such acts of cruelty are morally wrong.
Silly ladybrain.
I don’t think even women who have been raped would come out with that vile, deranged rant. He should be locked up as he sounds like a violent nut job. The men on these forums are just embarrassing drama queens screeching to anyone who gives a fuck. Mind you if I feel a bit down which isn’t often I’ll head off there and read their horrendous tales of woe and thank God I was born a woman as these men’s lives seem to be so unbearable and wrought with angst the poor lil daaaaahhhhlings. Big Mary’s the lot of them. Go your own way. Like go quietly ffs.
@Kittehs, I had the exact same thought. Wow, you’ve seen The Princess Bride, you torture mastermind you.
Also, what does it say about the MRM that one of them can post something like this, and my first reaction is surprise that he didn’t also suggest raping her?
Meh, he stole that from The Princess Bride.
Oh good, I didn’t know there was a clip of that bit!
Not hard to guess what skeezyboy was doing while he watched that film.
David Futrelle
I think we should all be proud when we get ourselves banned from “Mens Rights” groups like this. Its not like these organizations are anything like they claim to be.
oh crap, that’s what I get for posting without refreshing first.
LOL not to worry, MordsithJ – the clip’s there to show everyone loserboy’s just copying.
emilygoddess – yeah, I was surprised he didn’t suggest raping her.
It’s a human rights movement!
It’s about time the Spanish Inquisition had someone to stand up for their rights.
I’m just profoundly shocked he referred to a clitoris as an “important bit”.
I guess they really DON’T hate women after all!
This is the most blatant example yet that none of them actually give a shit about men’s issues. The guy is suicidal and some other dudebro comes over to say, “Well, if you DO commit suicide, you should severely torture and disfigure a woman before you do! Just to get our message across!”
Does that asshole not realize that he’s basically suggested a (ineffective) way of benefiting from this other man’s death? Talk about men being viewed as “objects of utility” or whatever they claim. Grow some fucking compassion for this guy’s situation instead of thinking of ways his death could be good for you, douchenozzle.
As for that bit about us knowing that they “don’t really hate women”, I see that they have just as skewed a definition of “censorship” as they do just about every other word they like to use. Newsflash, making fun of the things you say on a very public blog is just about as far from censorship as you can get. And considering you’re able to have your little cave of disfunction and reality denial in the first place, I’m guessing no one else is effectively censoring you either.
But, I suppose MRAs can’t get through a day without imagining some imaginary way in which they’re oppressed.
Glad to see you’re complaining about idiotic censoring bans on the Internet and at Reddit.
You should poll people across the net and see which of your pet movements is notorious for idiotic censoring bans on the Internet and at Reddit.
Why am I telling you this? YOU DAVID FUTRELLE ARE NOTORIOUS FOR BANNING PEOPLE GUILTY OF NOTHING MORE THAN DISAGREEING WITH YOU OR YOUR CROWD!
“They don’t actually think we hate women – If we did then they’d be happy to prove it every time we spoke in public”
What. he’s talking about all those few craptastic “rallies” they hold ever once in a while — the ones that never get major media coverage? No, you’re not public figures, you just dug a nice little online cesspool to swim in. I know reality checks hurt, but…
Oh, and maybe you dudebros should start posting under your real names, like ALL of you. I mean, if you’re going to pretend to be legitimate activists you might as well get mainstream exposure, right? You have nothing to be ashamed of, right? CNN is always trying to get you misters to appear on air, right?
Just like we do now?
It actually reminds me of the second book of Dexter (not the TV series.)
The main serial killer in it would chop off body parts one by one, until the victim ended up looking like, what Dexter described as, a potato. O.o
*notices 4chan next to poster’s name*
Am I the only one who honestly thinks reddit is worse than 4chan sometimes? At least 4chan knows damn well what they are and how they look to people, reddit is capable of being just as awful, but they have an air of pretention that 4chan doesn’t. You know what you’re getting yourself into on 4chan, people (for some reason) expect better from reddit. It’s considered a more respectable place but the opinions of a lot of them are just as bad.
And for fucks sake, at least /b/ has put their trolling to good use before, what the hell good has reddit ever done?
I hate reddit so much.
Hey, some dude been banned by you a million times for squat, I’ve taken the liberty of banning you again, but I let that comment through to note the irony here.
You see, once you’ve been banned, you aren’t allowed back. If I banned you more than once, you were (and are, with this comment) breaking the rules by commenting again, which means another ban. By contrast, I have not returned to r/mr with a new account. I’m banned there, and I will respect that. Perhaps you were banned the second and third and millionth time around because I knew you were a sockpuppet of a banned person?
Because the MRM is totally above that.
Probably the MRM.
GRRR ALL CAPS J’ACCUSE, J’ACCUSE!
People come here all the time and argue with us, silly goose.
@Some dude: Banning you from screeching and spreading your hate on one specific website isn’t censorship. You aren’t entitled to an audience.
Why don’t you actually LOOK UP what censorship is and what it looks like instead of creating new sockpuppets here so you can get banned all over again?
but this guy doesn’t represent MRAs. Neither do all those other MRAs who have said misogynist shit in the past. They don’t count, because reasons! Valerie Solanas and Andrea Dworkin on the other hand totally represents all of feminism, all the time. In fact I heard they collaborated in creating the whole child support idea!!!
also logicmenstemrationalobjectivescience.
Wow, Some Dude, go easy on the caps. People might think you’re loosing your shit on a public forum or something.
judgybitch thinks women should thank men who shout “nice tits” at them.
but that doesn’t count either.
In a post where we point out the hypocrisy of r/mr banning people who simply disagree with them while allowing people who post violent torture wank-fests to remain, we get people upset that David consistently bans people for his own ethical reasons.
It’s almost like they don’t understand the difference between non-violent disagreement and violent wank-fantasies! (But it’s a “human rights movement!”)
Judgybitch is such a piece of garbage. She never ceases to amaze me.
Oh, wait, Some Dude is the socket puppet of who now?
D’aww, someone thinks that zie’s entitled to an audience to sprout hate!
Guess what, troll. This is a private site. Owners are free to ban whomever they want.
Let’s see, the first name that came to mind was “some guy bored with your shit” – this cretinous sockpuppet’s name is similar.
Other than that, he’s suggesting he’s Pell, Mr Al orwhatever other weird losers get banned repeatedly … yeah, repeated bans for abuse, threats, and general bigotry are really things to boast about, saddo.
Sprouts’ Rights!
The SRM is a far more respectable movement.
Eh, remember that repeat bans doesn’t mean the sock ever got through mod, so it could be some guy.
I refuse to address the horror that is the OP.
A Voice for Sprouts, greatest vegetable rights site of our day!
“Judgybitch is such a piece of garbage. She never ceases to amaze me.”
She acts like she’s better than all other women. Does she know that the men who pretend to like her on her blog are really dumping on her elsewhere? Sunshine mary too. Men within the sphere don’t like or respect either of of them any more than they do the women they hate publicly on their blog.
kittehs – Welcome to the Sproutosphere.
A Voice for Sprouts: Botanist counter-theory in the age of misplantry
@Kitteh I TOTALLY thought of princess bride.
So I guess the person who said “they don’t really think we hate women” is someone who never saw that fucked up fantasy this other person posted…? I know they change their minds and move goalposts all the time but surely cognitive dissonance can’t be that bad, right? …Right??
My guess is, a lot of the subreddit’s regulars have similiar views/fantasies about women – or at the very least, think it’s totally fine to have similiar views/fantasies about women. The only reason the comment was deleted is because they’re concerned about their image – not that it could really get any worse, mind.
I wonder if this guy thinks that people who commit crimes are capable of being rehabilitated. I mean, I didn’t read the reddit thingy, but judging from the title some woman falsely accused a man of raping her. This is a crime. She should be punished for this, by legal means. But she can also be rehabilitated…much like a rapist can. I really believe that there are very few people who are beyond hope of rehabilitation, and even then it is never ok to do harm to them in the name of vengeance. But what am I saying? If there is one thread to the way MRAs seem to approach the world in common it’s that they contradict themselves at every turn.
I got myself banned from the Red Pill Women subreddit pretty easily. I started a thread asking what would happen if they denied “their men” sex. Many of the answers were pretty grotesque, actually.
But the difference is that they engaged me for a could of days, knowing full well I was trolling them, before they blocked me. I presume this was because it was VITALLY IMPORTANT that they replied to my brief sentence fragments with walls of texts about all the things they presumed about my life and my opinions.
“If we did then they’d be happy to prove it every time we spoke in public”
Is this guy not aware that the internet is public? That everyone can see what he writes? That just because he’s typing his repulsive crap under a pseudonym from the safety of his couch, that doesn’t mean that no one can see it or would be able to figure out who he is?
Does this guy have explicit instructions on how to get out of bed painted on his ceiling? At least 4chan knows they’re on the internet.