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How not to get banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit

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Let’s say you wake up one morning and you decide, for some reason, that you’d like to make it your goal for the day to get yourself banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit.

If you’re a feminist, it’s not hard. I managed to get myself banned there some time ago and all I had to do was … well, I’m not exactly sure what it was I did. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t do anything out of the ordinary, Reddit-wise, other than argue with the regulars there. It’s possible I may have engaged in some light sarcasm. So maybe try that.

If, on the other hand, you hate women, all you have to do is … well, again, I’m not sure. Because earlier today, as one friend of Man Boobz pointed out on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit, a dislikeable fellow who calls himself sciencegod posted an elaborate, graphic torture fantasy to the Men’s Rights subreddit. I’m posting it below as a thumbnail; click to see it full size, but TRIGGER WARNING because it’s very graphic.

sciencegod -9 points 10 hours ago* (4|13)  Always remember folks, revenge is a dish best served cold.  If you ever think about suicide again OP, you should get revenge on your abuser first- with lots of pomp and ceremony.  However, do it in a way that lets her live.  To start, cut off important body parts like her nose, eyes, tongue, hands, feet, nipples, and clitoris. Be sure to cauterize each wound as you go, so that she doesn't bleed out.  You will want to take a few days to cut all the pieces off, you know, so she doesn't die of shock.  When you're done, post a full account of her crimes, your retribution against her, the Court's abuse of your liberty and injustice, and why you are letting her live.  You might even quote a few choice Supreme Court Justices about how when the Court does not successfully resolve grievances, violence is the natural outcome.  Then let her go, to live and never again see another soul, talk to another person, feel or smell another thing, but she will hear the screams of others.  Yes, let her go through life a disfigured, isolated, and scorned monster for her crimes...  Then kill yourself in a grand fashion; a beacon to the Nation for its crimes against so many of its sons. You might try setting yourself on fire- that's always spectacular.  But more importantly than her justified suffering, the System that violated you will be forced to answer for it's abuses and you will no longer be suffering.  Let the Down Votes Begin Even Though Most OF You Enjoyed And Some Of You Even Loved The Images Of Cruel And Brutal Vengeance!
It got some downvotes, and the mods deleted the comment. But it didn’t occur to any of the mods, evidently, to actually ban this user from the Men’s Rights subreddit.

Because obviously anything he might ever have to say on the subject of Men’s Rights is much more worthwhile than anything I might ever have to say on the subject.

I asked the mods why they felt it necessary to ban me when they wouldn’t ban someone like sciencegod, and here’s the response I got back:

sillymod [M] via /r/MensRights/ sent 51 minutes ago  We don't answer to you. You have zero influence through which to get a discussion out of us. Goodbye.
This is pretty much the answer I get whenever I ask them anything. I could ask them if they thought the sky was blue and they’d send me the same response and probably put something in the sidebar saying the sky was red.

Ironically, elsewhere in the Men’s Rights subreddit today I learned this:

nigglereddit 6 points 1 day ago (19|13)  They don't actually think we hate women - if they did then they'd be happy for us to prove it every time we spoke in public.  No, the problem is the opposite. They know we don't hate women. They know we're right. And the only way they can stop people from hearing and agreeing is to censor us.
Huh. Where on earth might I have gotten the impression that there are MRAs who hate women?

Oops. There’s that sarcasm again. When will I ever learn?

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Death&Destruction
Death&Destruction
6 years ago

They deleted it so that’s good enough. If he keeps writing stuff like that then he’d probably get banned. Besides, at least you and that guy got to comment. Look at some feminist websites like Geek Feminism or Feministing, they don’t even approve your comment unless it’s in agreement with their equality delusions.

“Because obviously anything he might ever have to say on the subject of Men’s Rights is much more worthwhile than anything I might ever have to say on the subject.”

That could very well be true, you know.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

@DrMrsTheMonarch I want to marry your nym.

@Kittehs

If disagreeing with David or his crowd gets you banned, how come we’re still here?

How come the trolls are still here? Someone obviously missed Obsidian Files, Truthy, and the time Tom Martin was allowed to come back to talk about his “documentary”.

@Death&Destruction.

Look at some feminist websites like Geek Feminism or Feministing, they don’t even approve your comment unless it’s in agreement with their equality delusions.

No u!

Speaking of “no u”, AVFM also screens disagreeing comments and bans dissenters regularly. I’m sure you’ll be running off to yell at them any minute now.

Anyway, you’re missing the whole point of David’s post: the fucked-up priorities of a mod who will ban you for “equality delusions” (LOL) but not for torture porn.

I’m bored, so I’mma hand you a shovel: what do you mean by “equality delusions”? Are you saying that some feminists are incorrect about what equality looks like, or that wanting equality is itself delusional?

serrana
serrana
6 years ago

Sorry if this sounds dumb, but I see Violentacrez a lot, and I still don’t understand zir name. Is it violent + acres but with a z?

That’s it, exactly, but for ages I read it as Violetcrantz, like Rosencrantz with a different flower. It’s not a very good nym.

serrana
serrana
6 years ago

It’s violent, I was misreading it as violet. I like my version better. 😀

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Violentacrez = Violent Acres with a Z, yes. And I think his nym is supposed to represent some kind of gruesome amusement park, with John Wayne Gacy as emcee. Or something ooky like that.

Tracy
6 years ago

Weird! I’d always read it with a Spanish flair, like ‘vee-yo-lenta-crez’. Never got violent acres out of it.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Is it based off a real serial killer, Bina? Because I know there was one guy who kidnapped a bunch of people and would set them free on his property so he could hunt them… I forgot his name, and I don’t want to look him up.

I don’t know…I don’t follow him. I just remember how Gawker exposed him awhile back as one of the all-time worst trolls, and how amused I was to find out just how well he fit that schlubby loser stereotype of a 101st Flying Monkey Keyboard Warrior™. He was the total sad sack with a mundane job. I almost felt sorry for him, until I remembered how many girls have killed themselves lately over stalkers and trolls.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Yeah, I read it as violet acrantz or violent acrantz – nothing that made any sense and certainly nothing about acres.

katz
6 years ago
kittehserf
6 years ago

Speaking of violets, does anyone here who reads Captain Awkward know what African Violet means as they use it?

kittehserf
6 years ago

Ouch, that’s a harsh gift. Mum had two African Violets in years past … they didn’t live long (and not ‘cos she’s incompetent with plants; she isn’t).

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

But they’re…that’s just weird.

Of course, I can kill ivy and grow an African violet cutting (pecunium, it’s looking adorable btw, got at least three pairs of little leaves and is starting to look like a proper plant)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

* the one I thought might be growing is. You’re getting two African violets pecunium, unless you want me to keep the second one.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Killing ivy reminds me of the saying that if you can kill roses, you should give up gardening. 😉

katz
6 years ago

I hope not. I haven’t killed a rose yet but I kill many things that are supposed to be indestructible. Spider plants, succulents, a morning glory, 2 manzanitas, and a coffeeberry that was planted in between two identical and completely healthy other coffeeberries.

kittehserf
6 years ago

My sister spent years trying to kill off the roses she had in her last house, with no success until she pretty well bulldozed ’em.

cloudiah
6 years ago

I’ve killed ivy. Oddly, though, the people I work with gave me a really lovely orchid when I got my masters, and I haven’t managed to kill that yet. It seems to thrive on my benign neglect. (That and the mantears I feed it every other week.)

kittehserf
6 years ago

Mantears are the best. Feed your orchids misandry to avoid misplantry!

Alice Sanguinaria
6 years ago

RE gardening: I pretty much kill every single plant that I get my hands on, mainly because I didn’t water it (the last plants I killed I forgot to water for a few weeks). 🙁

kittehserf
6 years ago

I never bother about indoor plants. If I did, they’d die of neglect. But in any case, there’s nowhere to put them – flat surfaces are for books or DVDs to lie on, cats to sit on and (occasionally) humans to use.

acrannymint
6 years ago

Just a heads up that Manboobz saved your comment and is using it as proof that this subreddit won’t ban people who advocate for the torture and assault of women.
wtf – I guess it could be sarcasm but really does the fact that the jerk wasn’t banned mean that they do advocate torture and assault of women?

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

I think they do, but they just don’t want word to get out that they do.

kittehserf
6 years ago

They might mince words over whether they advocate it, but at the very least, they don’t object to the idea.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
6 years ago

Phalaenopsis is my favorite orchid because it does indeed thrive on benign neglect. Also because it will bloom for months and months.

pecunium
6 years ago

I have a number of miltonia x phalenopsis, and an oncidium x odontoglossum.

I bought the latter when it wasn’t in bloom and it bloomed. So I’m feeling pretty good at my orchid husbandry.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

Your baby African violets are adorable, and I’m going to say that a 50% survival rate from cutting ain’t bad ^.^

I’m thinking I’m gonna stick the orchid in there for the winter, having lost the last one to fucking Nemo.

Ally S
6 years ago

Just a heads up that Manboobz saved your comment and is using it as proof that this subreddit won’t ban people who advocate for the torture and assault of women.

Oh, me! Oh, my! People are using actual evidence that r/mr is a misogynistic shithole! Whatever shall they do?

CassandraSays
6 years ago

Those evil feminists are using a case in which we didn’t ban someone for fantasizing about torturing women on our subreddit as proof that we don’t ban people for fantasizing about torturing women on our subreddit!

Howard Bannister
6 years ago

Failure to ban somebody who’s posted violent misogynistic fantasies doesn’t necessarily mean that you share those fantasies, but it does necessarily mean that you don’t mind sharing space with somebody who does.

This is kind of basic logic and stuff. Do we need to start giving remedial classes?

(thinks about trolls of yore)

Really, we should have started years ago.

Jessay (@jessay)
6 years ago

Besides, at least you and that guy got to comment. Look at some feminist websites like Geek Feminism or Feministing, they don’t even approve your comment unless it’s in agreement with their equality delusions.

Clearly this dude is in denial about how dangerous leaving a comments section open on a feminist website can be. I recently had a debate with some jackass on my youtube channel’s comments policy which states that all comments on discussions on feminism will be moderated (I will have to individually approve them), to help maintain a safe space for women. The dude was of course crying freeze peach, but it’s like, I’m not about to leave a rape threat or something sitting on my video for hours, if not weeks, because I didn’t realize it was there. If I have the ability to moderate those comments before they get posted, I can ensure that triggering comments and obvious trolling/bad faith arguments don’t slip under the radar. No, I will not give equal time to trolls, cry about it.

Dude was like, “You’re gonna lose subscribers because people see this as a human rights issue.” Yeah, those trolls can see the door, I’m not concerned one bit about it. Youtube is a haven for blatant misogyny, trolling, and “debates” that dehumanize entire groups of people. Not being able to start a wankfest on one person’s channel is not a fucking infringement on your free speech. You can save that shit for someone who wants to hear it because it’s not your right to talk to me or all two of my viewers, lol.

@auggziliary, I see violentacrez a lot too but for some reason I always read his un as “violentalcatraz.” NFI.

kittehserf
6 years ago

Would that make him the bird-brain of Alcatraz?

vaiyt
6 years ago

Either way, you’re not obliged to give people a platform to speak in your own private space. It’s your video/blog, you make the rules.

Jessay (@jessay)
6 years ago

That’s what I said. But there are a lot of s/c/w/a dudes out there who have no idea how to deal with someone not automatically valuing their opinions over other people’s and feel entitled to everyone else’s time and attention, so the thought of not being able to spew whatever disgusting, uninformed garbage all over other people’s spaces sends them into a state of blind determination to restore their over-inflated egos.