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A Voice for Men’s Honey Badgers ask: Why hasn’t Anita Sarkeesian been harassed MORE?

A Voice for Men’s so-called “Honey Badgers” — its little super-team of female MRAs, led by blabby Canadian videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan — have a new theory about Anita Sarkeesian. And it’s a doozy.

Sarkeesian, you may recall, is a feminist cultural critic who’s faced pretty much nonstop harassment from misogynistic internet assholes since she launched a project to dissect sexist tropes in video games. AVFM has contributed, in its own special way, to this wave of harassment, with articles describing Sarkeesian as, among other things, a “moneygrubbing liar” and a “queen bee … girl interloper” in the world of video games; AVFM’s Dean Esmay also held her partially responsible, along with an assortment of other internet feminists, for the suicide of one Canadian Men’s Rights Activist.

The principals at AVFM have blamed her for — either inadvertently or deliberately — bringing this harassment on herself by going to 4chan and posting about her project. (As I noted in a previous post, there’s no actual evidence she ever did this.)

The Honey Badgers, for their part, are certain that getting harassed by 4chaners was  part of her devious plan all along.

In a teaser for their internet “radio” show tonight, the “Honey Badger” known as TyphonBlue writes:

Like all professional damsels in distress, Anita Sarkeesian had to choose a good dragon. Just the right looming shadow to fall over her delicate and fragile sensibilities; just the right cackling stage-villain to inspire her cries of helpless horror.

She chose 4-chan. An internet forum known for it’s underbelly of foul-tempered and hair-triggered trolls.

Then, after accusing Sarkeesian of inviting countless rape and death threats upon herself (and only a portion of it from 4channers, I should add), the Badgers take their weird conspiracy theory one step further:

But we at Honey Badger Radio have noticed something… odd. The wave of so-called hate that Anita received from her carefully chosen dragon, wasn’t really all that bad.

Yeah. A year and a half (so far) of pretty much unending harassment and baseless criticism, complete with violent threats directed not only at her but at other women who have defended her — that’s nothing.

Compared to 4-chan’s usual scorched earth strategy–raizing [sic] everything to the ground and pissing on the ashes, Anita got a little singed, like she sat too close to a campfire.

So we have to ask… Did 4-chan white knight Anita? I mean, come on. Was that the best 4 chan could do?

Yes, that’s right. The Honey Badgers are accusing those who sent rape and death threats to Anita Sarkeesian … of “white knighting” her.

I can’t even.

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kittehserf
11 years ago

Alice, I never thought of it being rude to deaf people – I hope it isn’t (I mean, I wouldn’t know, obviously).

I have to say I snortled my tea, reading it. The context was “person not talking because Rules” not “deaf person”.

Maybe there should be a prologue where they arrive separately and each talks to the waitstaff?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Wait, if you know that it isn’t going to last anyway, why bother with all the shutting up and being mysterious crap?

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

kittehs – I wouldn’t know either, but still. I know the context, and I wasn’t intending to put anyone down, but the *signs* thing might be offensive.

Maybe the prologue will help.

Apologies for offensiveness.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

CassandraSays – Because the originator hates it when women talk?

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Also, if you read the Dateable Rules for Girls, there’s an assumption that there’s a girl is dating someone who already has an SO (and is presumably monogamous).

WTF? Are you (the author of R. U. Dateable) implying that men are inherently cheaters? Or are you implying that women are causing men to cheat?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Rules for cheating the Christian teenager way? And I used to think the Creation Museum was in poor taste.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

“Unless it’s just women who aren’t supposed to talk and men are supposed to just talk at them?”

Well, I did get told to talk less and listen more when I took the female one. Which is, you know, something I’ve heard basically since I started talking. (See, I didn’t really start talking until I was nearly 5, I knew what everyone was saying, and did as told and such, but, ironically for the current topic, had my own little system of signs for what I wanted…wasn’t until my brother started using words that I did too. Story goes that I haven’t shut up since 🙂 )

neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

I posted over at Feminist Borg. Just Furrinati basic info.

katz
11 years ago

I totally didn’t realize that the correct answer to all the questions was supposed to be “false.” For starters, I totally misparsed this one:

He asks you what you are doing this weekend.
You say nothing.

Due to the missing quotation marks, I thought it was telling you to literally say nothing when asked a question.

Or what about this one?

At the end of the date there are still so many things you want him to know.

If you never talk and concentrate on being mysterious, isn’t that going to mean that there are more things you want him to know? Or are you just supposed to not care what he thinks you’re like? What’s even the point of the date if you’re explicitly not supposed to get to know the other person?

As for the pledge:

As a dateable girl I will: shut up and be mysterious, not lie to myself

Don’t lie to yourself. But do lie to the guy if he asks a straightforward question like what you’re doing that weekend.

neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

But isn’t lying bad? And if I lie I deserve rape/death threats?

katz
11 years ago

WRT feminist borg: Are we going to make this intersectionality month and is there going to be a post announcing so? Because if so, I do have a post written up, but if we’re not going with the themes, I’ll just put it up on my blog instead.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Be Magrat, but without the inner mongoose and the medical skills.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

I think we’re doing themes so yes?

*skims post queue* yeah, everything here can be shoehorned in. And idk which prompt he meant, but that may answer pecunium’s issue — I asked him to write on either/both women in the military (there was stupidity here earlier) or disability, he didn’t know quite how to make either relate to feminism. If we do intersectionality month (that’s a mouthful!) and he meant the later, problem solved.

You want to write up a short post to sticky? Should I draft one?

Also, the only email I have for you is the one you used when collecting writing samples, I’m assuming by your question that that is a valid email?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

*everything here that isn’t Furinati related

Seranvali
Seranvali
11 years ago

Wrong:

It’s really quite simple. When women are depressed they talk about it. They talk to a friend, they admit it and other people will support them. If it continues they go and see a GP who will send them to a psychiatrist who will treat them. Women are far less likely to be ashamed of feeling depressed and get help when they need it.

Most men see being emotional as a weakness and being suicidal as something to be hidden, as some kind of admission of failure so they don’t admit it, don’t get help and are far, far more likely to kill themselves.

And, of course, the issue of the method makes as serious difference as well.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

*reviews todo list* Did we want to lump disability as intersectional or give it its own month? Idk that we have enough for the later but I have asking that on my list.

mildlymagnificent
11 years ago

Skipped a couple of pages to vent my frustration.

Makeup, yay! I enjoy makeup by MAC, but it can be pricey so I don’t buy it as often.

Feel my pain. I lashed out on MAC months and months ago, used it a couple of times – and haven’t been able to find it since. Have to go to daughter’s super duper pre-wedding party (high tea) tomorrow so there go multiple $$$$s.

And we all know perfectly well that the vanished bottle of MAC will magically reappear next week once I’ve bought its replacement. Oh well. It’s only money, siiiigh.

And for suicide? There’s a recent study just out. Damn thing’s behind the usual paywall, but some of you might have library access. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014481881300077X

Here’s an article by someone who has read it. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/11/14/2945661/study-guns-suicides/

Radical Parrot
11 years ago

Ok, late for Scooby-Don’t’s whiny arglebargle, but for the sheer hilarity of it all, I imagined zir talking in Flander’s voice.

Seranvali
Seranvali
11 years ago

Kittehserf:

The primer definitely helps and it lasts longer in summer because it doesn’t sweat off as easily.

Hey! Don’t knock a bit of sparkly bronzer, vampire or not, it makes a nice finishing power if it’s loose, rather than pressed. When I was all pale and wan from chemo I used it as camouflage and managed to pass as a normal person.

Ally:

I see your problem and I have a suggestion. At the risk of sounding like an ad, you might find Dr Feelgood by Benefit useful. It’s clear, goes on invisible and blurs any redness or blemishes. I also find it really pleasant to use, is very protective and it has a really nice perfume. Put it on with your fingers and it will hide enlarged pores and give you a very good surface for foundation but it can be worn on it’s own. You can hide blemishes with a bit of concealer and then put a bit more Dr F on top to keep it in place. It works well with a lip and cheek stain and I doubt very much that your dad will notice anything but the perfume.

Fibinachi
11 years ago

I’m kind of embarassed to admit this, but I see you talking about this Feminist Borg and articles therefore and interesting things, and, uh, how do I find those or a link or anything? Google gets me naught.

And can I write anything in any way that might help? Link me to something that coveres that already if it’s there.

Please? 🙂

daintydougal
daintydougal
11 years ago

Oh wow, if even Fibinachi didn’t know about the new magical place of wondrousness I feel less bad about being like ‘whaaaaaaaat?’

Malitia
Malitia
11 years ago

OMG. I’m not alone being confused. o/ YEY!

Fibinachi
11 years ago

I speak for the mildly confused and those who lack knowledge! I, Fibi, am the speaker of the Nonplussed! Quae nescio quid!

Fibinachi
11 years ago

… that’s a frightening, quiz, by the way.

Somehow I got: ”
But don’t get cocky. You have to be tough and keep hanging on to self-control. You are totally focused the right way. Keep it up!”, by iddling clicking.

I have to keep hanging on to my self control?

What exactly is the implication of what will happen here if I don’t, in this date situation?

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
11 years ago

As a dateable girl I will: shut up and be mysterious, not lie to myself, keep it covered up, remember that I’m not one of the guys, know that it will not last.

What won’t last? The relationship? Or our looks?

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