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A Voice for Men’s Honey Badgers ask: Why hasn’t Anita Sarkeesian been harassed MORE?

A Voice for Men’s so-called “Honey Badgers” — its little super-team of female MRAs, led by blabby Canadian videoblogger Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan — have a new theory about Anita Sarkeesian. And it’s a doozy.

Sarkeesian, you may recall, is a feminist cultural critic who’s faced pretty much nonstop harassment from misogynistic internet assholes since she launched a project to dissect sexist tropes in video games. AVFM has contributed, in its own special way, to this wave of harassment, with articles describing Sarkeesian as, among other things, a “moneygrubbing liar” and a “queen bee … girl interloper” in the world of video games; AVFM’s Dean Esmay also held her partially responsible, along with an assortment of other internet feminists, for the suicide of one Canadian Men’s Rights Activist.

The principals at AVFM have blamed her for — either inadvertently or deliberately — bringing this harassment on herself by going to 4chan and posting about her project. (As I noted in a previous post, there’s no actual evidence she ever did this.)

The Honey Badgers, for their part, are certain that getting harassed by 4chaners was  part of her devious plan all along.

In a teaser for their internet “radio” show tonight, the “Honey Badger” known as TyphonBlue writes:

Like all professional damsels in distress, Anita Sarkeesian had to choose a good dragon. Just the right looming shadow to fall over her delicate and fragile sensibilities; just the right cackling stage-villain to inspire her cries of helpless horror.

She chose 4-chan. An internet forum known for it’s underbelly of foul-tempered and hair-triggered trolls.

Then, after accusing Sarkeesian of inviting countless rape and death threats upon herself (and only a portion of it from 4channers, I should add), the Badgers take their weird conspiracy theory one step further:

But we at Honey Badger Radio have noticed something… odd. The wave of so-called hate that Anita received from her carefully chosen dragon, wasn’t really all that bad.

Yeah. A year and a half (so far) of pretty much unending harassment and baseless criticism, complete with violent threats directed not only at her but at other women who have defended her — that’s nothing.

Compared to 4-chan’s usual scorched earth strategy–raizing [sic] everything to the ground and pissing on the ashes, Anita got a little singed, like she sat too close to a campfire.

So we have to ask… Did 4-chan white knight Anita? I mean, come on. Was that the best 4 chan could do?

Yes, that’s right. The Honey Badgers are accusing those who sent rape and death threats to Anita Sarkeesian … of “white knighting” her.

I can’t even.

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katz
11 years ago

I am pleased to report that respecting boundaries and setting terms regarding how far you’ll go is U DA MAN material.

This was a complementarian, wasn’t it? Their whole purpose is to tell girls to shut up and guys to keep it in their pants.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Argenti – Okay, I checked and then added the “we’re going to ban hierarchy of suicide” into the auto-ban list. Also added “hierarchy of rape” for good measure, but need someone to go through and see if it works.

Seranvali
Seranvali
11 years ago

I hate to butt in on the people having the discussion about makeup but I believe (what with the chemo and all) that I have some relevant experience! I’m in my fifties with pretty good, slightly oily skin but when I was on chemo it was dry, very red and flakey, with huge purple circles around my eyes. I used vast amounts of moisturizers and other heavy- duty skin care products. Also a lot of makeup, as much to protect as to improve my appearance. I had never used it before.

ColourCorrectors: This just works through the colour wheel. If you have very red skin, say from rosacae (sp?) you need a green corrector (red’s opposite on the wheel), if you have purple shadows you need a yellow corrector ( purple’s opposite on the wheel). Both are very helpful if you have inflamed skin or you haven’t slept well.

Foundation: you need to chose this carefully. I found that I got the best results from using it over a good primer and used the same form, meaning if you use a liquid primer use a liquid foundation. It can be helpful to mix foundations to get a good match or you can have one made for you (but that’s expensive. Mine was a birthday present from a kindly aunt who’d just been through it herself).

Contouring: very helpful and can change the shape of your face with a little practice. Your blusher and bronzer need to match well and have no sparkle (it’s a dead giveaway!). Highlighters catch the light on browbones, cheekbones and the bridge of the nose to make them more prominent. Darker bronzers do the opposite.

Lipstick and gloss: I found I couldn’t use browns or anything very dark but you can change the colour of lipstick a bit with a pencil and a lighter gloss. Clear glosses are useful too.

Anyway TLDR but I hope someone finds this helpful.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Ah, maybe, but I did say parents away was a good time to watch a movie home alone and you should find a spot to talk between seeing a movie and curfew. I mean, in what world are those not code for sexytimes?

melody
11 years ago

I meant that the thought process that led to people decided which suicides/suicide attempts are important is insanity.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

melody – Yes, it’s highly obnoxious and rude, but can we not call terrible ideas “insane”? That’s kind of ableist; I might have mental illness but I know that the “women only attempt suicide ’cause they’re attention whores” is offensive and stupid and wrong.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Seranvali, you’re not butting in and it was helpful – I’ve been wondering whether to try primer, and I might have a squizz now to see if there’s a liquid one that will work with the CC cream, so thank you!

Sparkly bronzer … am I the only one wondering if this is for sparkly vampires wanting a daylight look?

katz
11 years ago

You’re specifically not supposed to talk, so I guess you have to have sex.

Unless it’s just women who aren’t supposed to talk and men are supposed to just talk at them?

melody
11 years ago

Apologizes.

kittehserf
11 years ago

But isn’t talking something manly men don’t do? Aren’t they meant to be strong, silent types?

Maybe they should just bring books on dates. Or not bother dating at all.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

melody – No problems. 🙂 I unintentionally make similar mistakes too. We can all learn together.

kittehs – So does that mean that every single date must be silent? O_o

melody
11 years ago

I totally understand.
I make mistakes all the time. Especially with my friends…..I learn something new every time I hang out with them. I’ve gotten pretty good at asking for pronouns at parties while in college.

katz
11 years ago

Two other observations:

-There are no boundary/sex-having questions for girls.

-The boys’ quiz is three questions shorter and devotes some three more questions to the boundaries stuff, so net it’s half the length. Doesn’t seem to be much about their actual behavior.

melody
11 years ago

And I wish some of the guys I’ve been on dates with would have been quiet. Some of them could not SHUT UP. A girl can only smile and nod so long before she looks desperately for an out.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

melody – I’m still learning too. A few days ago I used “bitch” in a negative context, and then I realized “oh shit, that’s misogynistic” and corrected myself.

I’m still learning about what’s appropriate and what’s not myself, although I’m doing my best to be a decent person.

kittehserf
11 years ago

kittehs – So does that mean that every single date must be silent? O_o

Everyone has to learn sign language for dates!

Melody – wear earplugs. Smile, nod, and think about something more interesting than blahblah guy. 😉

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

C/Ped the quiz questions for girls:

Honesty means telling him everything about yourself.
True False

You think the faster he knows all about you, the quicker he will like you.
True False

You like to ask him a lot of questions.
True False

It’s Thursday and he’s asking you out for Friday.
You’re free so you say, “yes.”
True False

You had a great first date last night, so you call him the next day.
True False

Your crush is totally shy, so you make the first move and ask him out.
True False

He asks you what you are doing this weekend.
You say nothing.
True False

You are served something you are allergic to so you talk about your health for the next 10 minutes.
True False

At the end of the date there are still so many things you want him to know.
True False

You don’t respond every time he IMs you.
True False

You are every guy’s best friend.
True False

The overall message? If you take initiative, are happy to talk in order to let your SO get to know you better, be honest about your plans, enjoy a person’s company, or be friends with guys, you’re totally undateable girls!

I’m ignoring the fact that it’s heteronormative.

melody
11 years ago

Wheres the link to the quiz?

kittehserf
11 years ago

I couldn’t find it, I just copied other people’s comments and put in my own answers.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Oh, whoops, wrong quiz! I was thinking of the Are You A Vulgar Person one on the other thread.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

kittehs – Skit: First Date.

Two people meet in a restaurant on a blind date. They met each other through a dating website, and have not seen each other in person yet.

For the purposes of this skit, persons will be named 1 and 2, and everything will be gender-neutral. Substitute whatever gender you want.

Person 2 is using the “don’t speak too much on a date protocol”.

1. “Hi, I’m Alex. Nice to meet you. How are you this evening?”

2: *hand signs*

1: “What? I don’t understand that.”

2: *more hand signs*

1: “Uh… okay… um, never mind about that. What do you want for dinner?”

2: *more hand signs*

1: getting confused “I don’t get it. Can you tell me what you want?”

2: distressed *takes out a piece of paper and writes something, passing it down to person 1*

1: reads the message “Oh. You want some fish tonight? Alright.

Now, I remember reading on your profile that you really liked to go spelunking. Where have you spelunked?”

2: *more hand signs*

1: When do I get out of here?

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Now that I think about it, the skit’s most likely highly offensive towards deaf people. Shit. 🙁

melody
11 years ago

I did the quiz marking everything that is the woman talking as negative and guess what?

“You’re a wanted woman. Guys are dying to find out more about you. That’s what keeps ‘em coming back for more. Your phone’s probably ringing off the hook. You don’t tell people everything in the world about yourself. You know they can’t take it all in at once and so you only give them a little peek at a time. Keep being Dateable!”

melody
11 years ago

Omg and if you are “dateble” it asks you to sign this pledge:

As a dateable girl I will: shut up and be mysterious, not lie to myself, keep it covered up, remember that I’m not one of the guys, know that it will not last.

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