This quote from the Men’s Rights subreddit was featured on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit a week ago, but I can’t resist reposting it here, since it’s such a marvellous distillation of Men’s Rights LOGICS at work.
![jabberwockysuperfly 60 points 7 days ago (93|33) We appreciate your solidarity. However, please refrain from making statements like "women are all crazy bitches" regardless of how true it might be; feminists mine this subreddit in the hope of finding this kind of statement so they can use it to discredit this movement. permalink source save give gold hide child comments [–]lolyesok [S] 30 points 7 days ago (33|3) Woops, I'll edit that out when I get to a computer. permalink source save parent give gold [–]theskepticalidealist 15 points 6 days ago (19|4) They'll quote that too.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/crazybitches.png?resize=504%2C247&ssl=1)
That’s right: while we of course agree that women are all crazy bitches, we generally don’t like to say that sort of thing out loud, at least here in this subreddit, because our actual opinions are so foul they discredit us every time we say them out loud in public and the evil feminists cherry-pick our statements and reveal to the world WHAT WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE.
And jabberwockeysuperfly won himself 60 upvotes for that wondrous bit of SUPER STEM MANLOGICS.
Later in the discussion, our dear old friend Pecanpig clarified that even if there are some women who aren’t crazy bitches, they’re definitely a bunch of bad … oranges?
![dejour 13 points 7 days ago (29|16) It's not true though that all women are crazy bitches. So she shouldn't be saying that. For me the point though is that some women are and the legal system and public shouldn't assume that women=good, man=bad. permalink source parent save give gold hide child comments [–]Pecanpig 5 points 6 days ago (8|3) Depends on individual circumstances, if you eat 10 oranges and they are all bad then for all intents and purposes oranges are bad, that can be true despite contradicting your own experiences with oranges or whatever.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/badoranges.png?resize=502%2C234&ssl=1)
Orange you a strange one, Pecanpig.
Wait, what post?
Argenti – the one Tracy links here.
http://manboobz.com/2013/11/12/mens-rights-public-relations-dont-call-all-women-crazy-bitches-even-if-they-totally-are-because-feminists-might-catch-you/comment-page-3/#comment-377967
Oh man, that post is hilarious! Highlights:
You’re the one who gave us a list of just ten acceptable hobbies, lady.
“…and hitting.” Bit of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking going on there.
Oh deary me, look what a sweet little delicate flower you are!
Huh. So you’re supposed to be sad that people are getting hurt…but appreciate that other people are hurting them? Being effeminate is hard!
(The comments are very funny too.)
Speaking of properly feminine activities, I was browsing Rav today looking for classic colorwork mittens that would not rock the boat of “what men can wear” (knitting for men… grrr…) because I want to make my dad some mittens for Christmas, since I’ve made Mom and Sister mittens and he appreciates my knitting more than they do.
So I basically search for male mittens with stranded colorwork, and lo and behold, vagina mittens pop up.
http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/clam-hands
No. Fucking. Kidding.
Also, I did not find any free colorwork mittens for my dad, so I’m thinking of just copying out that star pattern all the nordic knits use and putting it on a mitten template with the right stitch count.
Oh that’s so funny!
Wish she knew the differnce between vagina and vulva, tho’.
I read an article today about the Labia Library – it’s a collection of info and pics of ladybits for anyone curious, or wanting to know if they’re “normal”, or haven’t seen any other than the gahhhhurkphotoshoppped porn variety.
The link (obviously NSFW) is labialibrary.org.au
I was surprised by how different front views are. Seen plenty of pics of the view from underneath, but not from the front.
I have serious doubts about Ravelry’s “search inside this category” attributes due to… results like this.
In other news, someone has actually made two of my thesis hats–for two cute little boys. She even switched out the colors on one of the repeats for a “stripe”. The pics are adorable, and I’m just so glad that someone made something out of a pattern I created. Besides me, I mean.
Also, I know a lot of knitters. A lot of knitters. I also know a lot of spinners, tatters, et al (my new home has a very active fiber arts guild).
None of them are traditional anti-feminist women. Not that they don’t exist, but I don’t think they are a majority of the craft. It seems to me to be dominated by older women who know what they want and aren’t about to take much crap from anyone. I’m an understudy in that.
I mean, half of the people at my local knitting/spinning group work at the same science facility I do, and those who don’t include a vet at a spay/neuter clinic and a pharmacist.
The strangest things do come up in Ravelry searches, I agree. I think they need to have a search that excludes categories as well as includes them. One should be able to say “no mature content” (those mits were tagged mature) when searching, f’rex.
Say, is your thesis hat on Ravelry?
Yep. Just search “Thesis.” It is the only hat.
There are a couple knitted from plastic bags, also called Thesis, but is yours the one in brioche stitch? It’s lovely. I haven’t tried brioche yet.
Ack, don’t mind me. I saw your nym when I expanded the pic. 😛
I find it really depressing that there are people wandering around wondering if their ladybits are “normal”. I mean, are they purple with green dots and bigger than your head? If not, chances are they’re perfectly normal, and it’s sad that people have been peer-pressured into thinking otherwise.
Oooh, look! Just the outfits to go with the Ugly Rooms for the Beautiful People decor.
http://www.littleyellowcat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/mantalk-1-smaller.jpg
Cassandra – exactly. I never wondered about mine that way, possibly because I didn’t see pics of them as a young person. I’d query the whole “porn is good always and for ever!” crowd on that basis alone, if women and girls – and it starts pre-teenage – are wanting bits of themselves cut off to fit porn’s visual ideal, and never mind what harm it does their bodies in the process.
Plus, how often does anyone even see your labia? It’s not like, say, a person’s nose, where I can see why people want to get surgery since tons of people see your nose every day. The idea that people are worrying about the appearance of bits that nobody other than your doctor and people you’re sleeping with ever see is just so sad. I mean, sure, I think some genitals are prettier than others (for men as well as women), but really, it isn’t that important, because by the time you see someone’s bits you’ve already decided that you’re attracted to them and would like to have sex with them. Who’s going to decide at that point not to have sex with the person because their bits aren’t pretty enough? I mean, I’m pretty looks focused, and even to me that seems ridiculous.
Oh. Pecunium’s right, it burns.
“ponchos, the biggest fashion crime since lederhosen”
Exactly! I can’t imagine going EWW NO YOUR BITS LOOK WEIRD by that point. Intrigued, and shy/embarrased maybe, if one hadn’t got up close and personal with the contents of the drawers before, but that’s about it.
Reminds me of the book “Emma and I” by Sheila Hocken, who was born blind and eventually regained her sight through operations. She did crack up laughing when she saw her husband undressed the first time, but it wasn’t his bits she was laughing at, it was his knees. Knees just seemed weird to her.
My mistake, Sheila Hocken lost her sight as a child, she wasn’t born blind.
As many troll of yore have pointed out, I’m REALLY looks focused, far more so than the average person, and I’ve still never found myself looking at a new sexual partner’s bits and going “sorry, but I just can’t until you get that bit trimmed and the other bit enhanced”. It just seems so silly, and I’d seriously side-eye anyone who changed their mind about sexing the other person up at that point. As long as all the bits work the way you’d anticipated, who cares?
Porn: not where you learn what bodies are supposed to look like.
This is weird to admit, but I don’t understand porn. I mean, I know what it’s for (duh) and I don’t care if people watch it because it’s your free time (unless it’s child porn, need I explain why?). But the idea of wanking yourself off to a group of actors having unrealistic sex confuses me.
Then again, I don’t watch porn (intentionally; I’ve seen images of cum shots and a troll manipulated an image of me to imply that I was a whore by shopping a penis and drawing “cum” on my cheeks—long story about that), so this might just be naiveté.
“Knees just seemed weird to her.”
Weird, and evil. Which reminds me that going “eh, I’ll shift later” is going to result in “oww my fucking knee” later. *shifts position* Laziness gets the better of me far too often when shifting means shifting my laptop too.
Argenti, you’re right, knees are evil. Even my *cough* good *cough* knee is pretty pathetic – gods forbid I should ever have to look under my bed for anything, and cleaning the shower these days needs a long-handled sponge, because kneeling is Not Happening.
Alice, I’m with you on the porn. I’ve seen stills, but wouldn’t watch a video of it. Apart from all the ethical considerations, the idea of watching someone I’m not remotely attracted to doing sexytimes leaves me cold.
kittehs – EXACTLY. What’s so hot about watching a random group of people preforming unrealistic sex acts? I don’t get it.
And of course, if you’re not attracted to them (which is a given for me), it’s just… ugh. Why?