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Men’s Rights Public Relations: Don’t call all women crazy bitches, even if they totally are, because feminists might catch you.

This quote from the Men’s Rights subreddit was featured on the Against Men’s Rights subreddit a week ago, but I can’t resist reposting it here, since it’s such a marvellous distillation of Men’s Rights LOGICS at work.

jabberwockysuperfly 60 points 7 days ago (93|33)  We appreciate your solidarity. However, please refrain from making statements like "women are all crazy bitches" regardless of how true it might be; feminists mine this subreddit in the hope of finding this kind of statement so they can use it to discredit this movement.      permalink     source     save     give gold     hide child comments  [–]lolyesok [S] 30 points 7 days ago (33|3)  Woops, I'll edit that out when I get to a computer.      permalink     source     save     parent     give gold  [–]theskepticalidealist 15 points 6 days ago (19|4)  They'll quote that too.

That’s right: while we of course agree that women are all crazy bitches, we generally don’t like to say that sort of thing out loud, at least here in this subreddit, because our actual opinions are so foul they discredit us every time we say them out loud in public and the evil feminists cherry-pick our statements and reveal to the world WHAT WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

And jabberwockeysuperfly won himself 60 upvotes for that wondrous bit of SUPER STEM MANLOGICS.

Later in the discussion, our dear old friend Pecanpig clarified that even if there are some women who aren’t crazy bitches, they’re definitely a bunch of bad … oranges?

dejour 13 points 7 days ago (29|16)  It's not true though that all women are crazy bitches. So she shouldn't be saying that. For me the point though is that some women are and the legal system and public shouldn't assume that women=good, man=bad.      permalink     source     parent     save     give gold     hide child comments  [–]Pecanpig 5 points 6 days ago (8|3)  Depends on individual circumstances, if you eat 10 oranges and they are all bad then for all intents and purposes oranges are bad, that can be true despite contradicting your own experiences with oranges or whatever.

Orange you a strange one, Pecanpig.

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kittehserf
11 years ago

Poop!

katz
11 years ago

OK, this:

There’s a finite number of free peaches for him. Luckily, that number is in the millions.

Is a good addition to the file of things that sound hilarious when written in Wikipedia’s dry factual tone.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Free the peaches! End this cruel tyranny over fruit!

Uh oh … I feel a barely-related Python moment coming on.

http://youtu.be/o5gqILMUfaU

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

That’s awesome, chibigodzilla.

cloudiah
11 years ago

This is how you know it’s a human rights movement. The stirring language.

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
11 years ago

I’d be sort of worried that MRAs censoring their horrible thoughts might let them gain converts or something, but their providing a space to air horrible thoughts about women is pretty much the only reason anyone is ever attracted to the MRM. The thing that keeps them from the mainstream is also their only appeal.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Aw man, I want to make up my own holiday too! We’ll call it Funny Hat Day, where we wear… you guessed it! FUNNY HATS.

Also… aren’t these the guys who whine constantly about Schroedinger’s Rapist?

kittehserf
11 years ago

David – they never will, ‘cos the CIA knows the secret ingredient of pound cake is FREEZE PEACH and they’re always trying to take it away.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
11 years ago

Saying that women are “crazy bitches” is one of the least offensive things the MRM has ever said.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

So… overgeneralization much?

The orange MRA guy would totally fail a stats/logic class if he thought that that made total sense logically.

robbirobbi
11 years ago

Anybody else getting flashbacks to the golden age of NWOslave with the “women=good, man=bad” thing?

(Yeah I’ve kind of been semi-lurking here for a really long time…)

Ally S
11 years ago

OT, but check out this lulz-worthy “takedown” of criticism of Paul Elam: http://jungs-endless-shadow.tumblr.com/post/66844304771/deliciousmaletears-jungs-endless-shadow

Third quote: From an article detailing the unfair standards and the sort of evidence that gets excluded from rape trials that harm the defendant. In short, what you’re missing in terms of context is “I will never vote to convict a man guilty of rape, even if the evidence indicates that he did, because I don’t feel as if I can trust my government to accurately present rape cases to an impartial jury.”

Yeah, totally okay because he definitely wasn’t advocating that people make it harder to convict the accused in cases in which the accused is most likely guilty. Context!!!!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

About PecanPig’s comment…I can haz logic? Please?

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

If Elam distrusts his government so much… he shouldn’t be on jury duty at all. If it’s that corrupt.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

@ Ally

That comment reads even more sketchy if you realize that he’s probably talking about rape shield laws, and that the only reason those exist is to stop defense lawyers from saying “this woman has had sex before, so she’s a slut, therefore she can’t have been raped”.

Chaos Engineer
Chaos Engineer
11 years ago

Let’s see. If you’re the first person in the world to ever eat oranges, and the first ten of them make you sick, then you’re justified in avoiding oranges thereafter.

If you’re living in a civilization where it’s generally accepted that oranges are edible, except in the cases where they’re rotten or where you’re allergic to them, and if the first nine oranges make you sick, then you should ask a responsible adult to figure out if the tenth orange is rotten. If it’s not rotten then you’re justified in assuming you have allergies and avoiding oranges thereafter.

If the tenth orange is rotten, then it’s likely that the problem is with the produce stand rather than with oranges per se. You’re justified in avoiding that produce stand but might want to consider eating oranges again in the future.

I think that’s everything.

Inductive reasoning is hard. Sometimes I wonder how civilization can survive for six months without everyone collectively dying of food poisoning.

sparky
sparky
11 years ago

Ally: Wow, There’s even a “But it’s satire!” defense.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Chaos Engineer – LOL!

Of course this falls down with the “ask a responsible adult” bit. MRAs are allergic to ’em.

robbirabbi – belated Hi, and have a Welcome Package! 🙂

dlouwe
dlouwe
11 years ago

This reminds me of a joke:

An engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician were on a train heading north, and had just crossed the border into Scotland.

-The engineer looked out of the window and said “Look! Scottish sheep are black!”
-The physicist said, “No, no. Some Scottish sheep are black.”
-The mathematician looked irritated. “There is at least one field, containing at least one sheep, of which at least one side is black.”

Now we get to add “-The MRA grinned smugly and remarked, “In my personal experience, all sheep are black. And probably whores.”

kittehserf
11 years ago

Now we get to add “-The MRA grinned smugly and remarked, “In my personal experience, all sheep are black. And probably whores.”

Undoubtedly.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

You forgot “It’s only misandry that makes you insist that some sheep are not black. Why are you being so mean to me?”

The average Stoic Sophist of today
The average Stoic Sophist of today
11 years ago

Soylent orange is people John Boehner!!!!

FTFY

rarapraj
rarapraj
11 years ago

women =good and men =bad?? i think bad or good someone can be judged from their personalities