If you’re starting up a political movement and want to get the asses into the seats — and then out into the streets — it’s helpful to have a stirring manifesto.
Here’s the opening of the Communist Manifesto.
A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.
That’s pretty good, you gotta admit. Like the start of an action movie.
And then there’s the classic opening of our own Declaration of Independence. Not quite as dramatic, but pretty damn stately. It starts off with all that “[w]hen in the Course of human events” stuff, and then, BAM:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That is, like, really quotable and shit.
Well, our old friend Fidelbogen has been doing some manifesto writing of his own. Let’s see how his new manifesto stands up against these classics.
The Manifesto of Coalition JS38
JS38 – Operational Overview
JS38 is a coalition of politically conscious non-feminist groups and individuals. The name itself is a random character string which serves only as an identification tag. As a project, JS38 is designed to overcome the problems which labels often generate – such problems as branding, false grouping, conflation, stereotypification, message degradation and the like.
What What WHAT?! You’ve named your movement after A RANDOM CHARACTER STRING?
Fidelbogen apparently thinks he’s writing a manifesto for robots.
Let’s see if he can pick up the pace a bit in the second paragraph:
We recognize that we are in a contest to sway hearts and minds.
Yeah, nothing wins hearts and minds faster than random character strings.
We recognize that this contest is played out on the field of public rhetoric – by which we mean things popularly said and heard. We strive, accordingly, to craft a message as well as we are able.
Dude, I hate to break it to you, but you are about as talented at crafting messages as I am at ballet dancing. The difference between the two of us is that I don’t post videos of myself trying to ballet dance on the internet, while you have a blog entirely — if inadvertently — devoted to documenting your failures to “craft messages” with any kind of skill. (And of course there’s your amazing Twitter account.)
The operation of JS38 will boost and clarify the signal of our selected message and cut through the background noise. In this way, the message will gain a more individuated presence within the public discourse.
Uh, see what I mean? Then Fidey, having set forth no reasons whatsoever for anyone to get involved in his little project, gets into the nitty-gritty of how it will work:
Members of JS38 (called “signatories”) are aligned with each other under the terms of a Prime Constitution – a list of points that encompass a mission, a code of principles, and a practical worldview.
He continues on in this fashion for approximately one million words (rough estimate). Here are some more snippets, to give you a flavor:
JS38 is neither a moral collective nor an organization in any sense, but only a joint intellectual effort to distill a message signal, and to differentiate this from what other feminist-averse groups and individuals are transmitting. …
If we establish that an octagon is an eight-sided geometrical figure, the truth of that message remains uncompromised by the messenger. Even if Stalin or Caligula declared that an octagon was an eight-sided geometrical figure, it would not become a nine-sided or seven-sided figure. …
The points in the Prime Constitution are not listed in order of priority, and there is no linear progression of ideas from one item to the next. However, the items do form a loose holographic unity. …
Ideally, every sub-constitution would list its entire chain of linkages, leading eventually back to the Prime Constitution, which is deemed canonical. In the end, this would generate a pyramidal structure of variations which cascade from the Prime Constitution. …
We value self-containment and aplomb in our spoken and written communications. Furthermore, we believe it is good practice to “think like a lawyer.” …
We define our method as query-based rather than theory-based – although it is true that we theorize. But feminism owes us answers, and not the reverse. Thus, if we declare that “feminism is x”, we are expecting proof that feminism is NOT x, and shall expect our concerns to be sensitively and respectfully addressed. …
If a particular idea is not expressly stated in this document, it cannot be attributed to the document. Equally, however, it cannot be said that the document excludes it. …
We seek to bring about a decolonization of the non-feminist mind. To that end, we claim an epistemic standpoint independent of feminist discourse, and from said standpoint we develop a counter-discourse. …
We assert the prerogative to define feminism in absolute terms in the light of our own study, regardless of feminist objection to such a proceeding. Simply put, feminism categorically IS what WE say it is. …
We assert that feminism is like a product that must be sold, and that nobody is obligated to buy. …
I’m thinking that Fidelbogen’s He Man Antifeminism Club 4NtevaSh — sorry, “Coalition JS38“ — isn’t going to be making a lot of sales itself.
You can tell that most MRAs are selfish idiots and not complete sociopaths, because sociopaths know how to manipulate people and craft rhetoric.
Ayn Rand would rightly sniff at them as parasites, albeit for the wrong reasons.
One of his commenters even thinks he sounds like a lawyer!
That’s not a compliment!
Off topic, but my college debate team (which I participated in for one tournament before realized it was everything I had hated about high-school debate with none of my favorite parts) was just suspended from travel (a.k.a., actually competing) due to an internal Title IX investigation for sex discrimination and hostile work environment.
I can’t speak to the specifics, because I wasn’t highly involved and the school isn’t publishing details, but I know that the debate team had a culture of heavy drinking, which apparently contributed (since it was mentioned a couple of times).
So… yeah.
Oh my God. You said it, but I didn’t believe it. I can imagine some amazing turgidity, but this… this is one of those erections the Viagra adds warn you about.
And what the fuck was this, “If a particular idea is not expressly stated in this document, it cannot be attributed to the document. Equally, however, it cannot be said that the document excludes it. …
It’s not there, unless we decide it really was, but if it’s implicit we get to deny it…
But they get to define feminism, and feminism has to treat them as godlike interlocutors, with “sensitive and respectful” responses.
Tell you what Fido, I’ll give you more respect than you deserve, and I’ll try to be respectful to your needs, cause you can’t always get what you want, but if you try (sometimes) you get what you need.
(not that I wouldn’t be willing put bengay in you hand cream)
Wouldn’t be just his hand cream I’d put it in.
No, Fidelbogan, you don’t get to “define” me or anyone else. You are quite obviously both stupid and ignorant and as such you don’t even have the vaguest idea what you’re taking about.
kittehs: I figure he uses it for lots of things.
@Emilygoddess
His
sock puppetonly friendeffusive admirer thinks Fidel hasto be a lawyer, he wrote a Constitution for gosh sakes!
It theoretically could be those things, but I’m guessing it’s not.
Shockingly, Fidel is not a lawyer or Constitutional scholar.
He knows all about that!
So on my blog, I took on the entire behemoth.
(Yes, I read the whole thing.)
http://thefeministskeptic.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/a-treatise-on-misandry-and-how-feminists-need-to-sit-pretty-and-listen-to-misogynists-rant-with-no-consequences/
It actually DOES say a lot about the MRA movement. I don’t think they realize it.
Did you see the heading of the scenic photos on the right side of his blog?
I’m not making that up.
Oh dear.
I think a good way to tell an ideologue is that, for them, everything is based on their ideology: It seems like they can’t appreciate or relate to anything outside of that frame of reference. So they can’t just look at pretty landscape pictures: They have to like the pretty landscapes because they’re MEN.
pecunium – *snickers*
I propose the existence of a movement which has a stupid name and which has no point except to make intellectually vacuous attacks upon my ideological enemies for reasons I am unable to justify.
Oops! Ninja’d!
Pecunium — tiger balm. (Oh jeez, I can attest it is worse because tweedle dee, also known as my mother, needs to learn to wash her hands better. And I did not tell you that 🙂 )
Oh yes, I heard a very cross-your-legs tale about tiger balm once.
Mind you probably everyone’s heard a tale like that. 😛
I wonder how many guys have tried it thinking “ooh, a tingly feeling, that’ll be nice”, and then experienced the horror of realizing that it’s really hard to wash off.
There are apparently people who stick hot sauce up their urethra for kicks, so compared to that accidental tiger balm transference loses its, um, sting?
Now I’m thinking of all those Marquis de Sade comics in Dead Philosophers in Heaven. “Also I have six live mosquitos lodged up my urethra.”
Even if Stalin or Caligula declared that an octagon was an eight-sided geometrical figure, it would not become a nine-sided or seven-sided figure.
So, in this comparison is he comparing other anti-feminists to “Stalin or Caligula” to explain that he wants to boost their correct messages that are being degraded by their despicable messengers?
That quote just made me realize who Fiddly ganked his style from – John Norman. It’s Activists of Gor.
The Cromulent Manifesto
That makes sense. I’ve come to the conclusion that having women as Gorean slaves is what even MRAs who’ve never heard of Gor really want in their shrivelled little souls, even if they never come out and say so.
Ben gay/mentholatum/etc are transdermal, they can’t be washed off.
Yup. They can rant on all they like about how false accusations are a bajillion times more common and serious than rape. They can complain about “redefining” consent such that it “turns 98% of all sex into rape.” They can demand that women “finally take some personal responsibility for themselves,” and follow up by crying “Misandry!!” when women take some personal responsibility. But advocate for rape? “Where, exactly, do we say ‘we want more rape,’ huh? HUH!? SHOW ME THE LINE WHERE IT SAYS THAT!!”
MRA/Creationist comparison checklist:
#66892 “Show me the line in the constitution where it says the words, ‘separation of church and state.’”
Check.
Also, could I just note how much I love that my spell checker always tags misandry as not a word? I just added it to my dictionary so I can see actual spelling mistakes, but it’ll live on in my heart forever as a hilarious thing.
“Thus, if we declare that “feminism is x”, we are expecting proof that feminism is NOT x, and shall expect our concerns to be sensitively and respectfully addressed. …
If a particular idea is not expressly stated in this document, it cannot be attributed to the document.”
Well, isn’t that a tidy little contradiction…