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Open Thread for Personal Stuff: November Rain Edition

Hugs for anyone who needs them.
Hugs for anyone who needs them.

I think we’re a bit overdue for another open thread for personal stuff. As per usual, no trolls, no flames, no being a butthead.

I’ll paste in some recent personal comments from other threads.

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neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

At this point, I feel like I’m getting official warnings for every mistake, and I’m not a fan.

Fuck. It sounds like they are trying to get rid of you for some reason. I don’t have any advice but here is a picture for you:

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/64/22/166422df2a1ff64e225761cf903d33a0.jpg

kittehserf
11 years ago

THOSE PICTURES ARE TOO ADORABLE

Ally S
11 years ago

I have just remembered that I have a bank account in my name that my father uses for himself and the family. I can’t believe I was so careless as to forget that. What could happen if I leave suddenly and he still has a bank account that is in my name? (BTW, I can’t cancel the account because he has his savings on it and he needs access to it in order to support the family.)

Fuck, this is just terrible. I would really appreciate some advice/info if that’s possible.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Is it in his name as well or just yours? If it isn’t in his name, all he can get for info is what the ATM will output — a human won’t give him info (at least not legally) unless his name is on the account.

Do you get any sort of direct deposit into it? If not, just clear out your portion of it when you leave (not before as I assume he can check the balance)

Assuming you don’t get anything directly deposited, it’s not that big of an issue — withdraw your portion on your way out of town. Then, even if his name is on the account, all they’ll know is which ATM you used, and if it’s local to him and not Katz, big fucking whoop.

Long term it’d have to be transferred to his name or him withdraw his money and open his on account or whatever, but if your portion is a static balance, just withdraw it on your way out. Oh sure, he’ll have a fucking fit, but nothing he can do about it even if his name is on the account.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Speaking of him having a fit, you may want to look into having your cell number changed and giving it to the people who need it but won’t give it to him. I left with fucking permission and he still called me multiple times a day (I mean, to the point that between him and my mother just wanting to chat my first month in Pittsburgh she had to pay my cell bill and stop calling me during peak hours because dear gods mom, yes I want to chat but look at this bill!)

He won’t be calling to tell you what goofiness your brother did or ask about the fish they’re bringing you once you settle in or anything so mudune, he’ll be calling to have a very loud fit.

serrana
serrana
11 years ago

Ally, is any of your own money in the account? If so, withdraw it if you can, just before you leave. If not, don’t worry about it. You’re not responsible for it in any way. I’m assuming this was an account he set up for you when you were a minor? Either way, he’s completely responsible for it, even if you were 18 when it was set up. You don’t have to give the bank your new address. If he overdraws on it, it’s on him, not you. You can just walk away.

cloudiah
11 years ago

And Ally, when you’re ready to leave, go and know that all of these details can be figured out in hindsight too. Don’t leave before you’re ready, but don’t not leave because you’re worried that there’s some detail you might forget to work out in advance.

You will know when the time is right. We will help you fix anything that needs fixing.

Ally S
11 years ago

@Argenti, @serrana

Well, the good thing is that it’s just a checking account in my name – he’s just using it because I gave him the credentials (PIN, email/password for online stuff, etc.). BTW, I got this account when I was 18.

As for my cell phone, I’m going to avoid using it once I’m with katz because I’m still under my dad’s plan, and his plan allows him to activate a tracking software any time – it will track my exact location when the phone is turned on. I’ll take with my phone with me, of course, because it has numbers that I need to remember, but I can’t really use it or else my dad will be capable of knowing exactly where I am. After I’m in a more stable situation, I’ll either change my number or get a new phone (my current phone is shit anyway).

@cloudiah

I understand. It’s just that I want to avoid as many potential problems as I can. I feel constantly overwhelmed and afraid and I really don’t want to cause anyone excessive hardship because of this escape.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Ally, if it works in the US like it does here with phones, would it be an idea to get a prepaid one? I believe they can’t be traced (I could be completely wrong about that, but it’s what I’ve heard). On top of that, it’d be a good idea to start taking copies of the numbers in your current phone now, so you’ve got them written down before you’ve left and can’t safely use the phone anymore.

After that, you can flush it down the loo. Pity it couldn’t send an earful of sewerage to the parental unit. 😉

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

kitteh — it works that way here. Fuck, grocery stores carry those phones sometimes. And they’re more or less untraceable, if you don’t pay cash and the police really want to find you, they probably will. But pay cash and even the cops probably can’t trace it. As for her father tracing it? Never gonna happen.

Ally — do you know if you have to use it for him to trace it, or just turn it on? Because afaik most of those programs just need the phone to be turned on. Burner phones are cheap, and pay-as-you-go so you won’t have to worry about the bill or a contract. Also “I really don’t want to cause anyone excessive hardship for anyone who isn’t my father because of this escape.” FTFY 🙂

Seriously, fuck him. That your step(?) siblings need the money in that account is reason not to just close it out and take his money (much as that sounds unethical, he put it in an account with just you name on it, technically speaking it’s only still his as long as you decide to let him have it. A rather stupid move on his part)

Apropos of nothing — http://www.csectioncomics.com/csectioncomics/comics/2013-10-30-feminism-70p.jpg

Ok, back to working on my Borg post. We’re doing pregnancy as the December theme, just so you slackers busy people know. (Ally, I don’t mean you, or anyone else with something in the queue, I mean the mass “I’ll write!” who seem to have gone *poof!* — pregnancy includes abortion so unpoof, this one should be an easy one to write about! [Unlike my stupid self who’s decided to write on c-sections v forceps and vacuum delivery and OH MY GODS SO MUCH RESEARCH {I was narrowly not a c-section, only because my mother’s OB/GYN was an older man who knew how to use forceps and wanted to try that first — it worked}])

kittehserf
11 years ago

Jeez, good thing I said I wouldn’t be writing, I’d have nothing relevant to offer on pregnancy or related topics! :/

Well, summer must be here. We had out first power outage with the trains tonight. Took three feckin’ hours to get home (typically, said outage happened when I was only four stops from home).

Ally S
11 years ago

This is what the FAQ for the tracking application says:

In some situations, AT&T FamilyMap will not be able to locate a phone. The most common reasons are:

-The phone that you are trying to locate is deep inside a building or car.
-The phone is surrounded by tall buildings, hills, or trees.
-The phone is powered off.
-The phone’s battery has run out.
-The phone is not in AT&T network coverage.
-Service on the particular line/number has been terminated or suspended.

In these cases, AT&T FamilyMap will tell you that the phone was not able to be located.

Also “I really don’t want to cause anyone excessive hardship for anyone who isn’t my father because of this escape.” FTFY 🙂

Seriously, fuck him. That your step(?) siblings need the money in that account is reason not to just close it out and take his money (much as that sounds unethical, he put it in an account with just you name on it, technically speaking it’s only still his as long as you decide to let him have it. A rather stupid move on his part)

(yep, they’re step-sisters)

And even though it’s my dad we’re talking about here, I don’t want anything bad to happen to him if I can help it. I’m just the kind of person who strives for win-win situations, although perhaps that’s not really a good thing…anyway, that’s just how I feel.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Ally, you do what you think is right – I think you’ll feel better about yourself and the whole situation if you can leave without harming anyone else, however they have behaved towards you. The view is so much better from the moral highground 🙂

I agree that it is best to copy the information off your current mobile before you leave – it sounds like switching it on to get friends’ numbers off it will activate the tracker.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

“It sounds like switching it on to get friends’ numbers off it will activate the tracker.”

Yeah, it does.

Ally — there is no win-win when dealing with abusive assholes.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
11 years ago

I agree that it is best to copy the information off your current mobile before you leave – it sounds like switching it on to get friends’ numbers off it will activate the tracker.

Whenever I get around to getting a new phone, the folks at the store transfer my phone numbers over for me. I mention this because it’s probably easier than copying them all down individually, especially if you have a lot. Then you can send a mass text to the people who you DO want to have your new number.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

emilygoddess — idk that that’s possible with a burner phone, it might be though. *checks* My tracfone does have a sim card, so that might work.

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

Argenti – Ah shoot. I’ll probably recycle a series of posts that I have for the month. I have freaking finals next week. 🙁

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Ally

What could happen if I leave suddenly and he still has a bank account that is in my name?

He can take the money out of it. There’s not really much you need to do about it; you can just bolt, create a new bank account elsewhere. As long as you can take your money out without his consent, you’re fine. You can just ditch it.

I would also HIGHLY advise you get a new phone ASAP. You can hide a lack of permanent address, but it’s a lot harder to get jobs and such without a reliable phone number. I got my phone for about $30, maybe $10 for the sim card; it’s on a pay-as-you-go plan that requires no contract, and before that, I just paid for the minutes I needed. Take the numbers from your phone now and just ditch it when you leave.

If you want, I can ask around my friends around here, ask if any of them have old phones they don’t want anymore. I know a lot of techies and packrats.

katz
11 years ago

(much as that sounds unethical, he put it in an account with just you name on it, technically speaking it’s only still his as long as you decide to let him have it. A rather stupid move on his part)

Couldn’t help noticing that myself. Technically if it’s been legally placed in your account, it’s yours and yours alone. And I’d love to hear the conversation where the dad goes to the police and explains “See, I had my kid make a bank account that I could use for tax-dodging purposes…”

Pity it couldn’t send an earful of sewerage to the parental unit. 😉

If only it was the phone from the Muppets.

Ally S
11 years ago

I’ll be honest; there are times I wish that my relationship with my dad could improve. This might come as a surprise to all of you, but even though he is persistently abusive towards me whenever he makes me do educational things, he is the one who has instilled in me a love for math, programming, and exploring new places.

You know how I’ve talked about Ruby here several times? If it weren’t for him, I wouldn’t even bother trying to learn that programming language. He taught me basic programming stuff in a very fascinating and helpful way, even though he had a tendency to yell at me whenever I asked him questions he didn’t like. I don’t talk to him much these days, but when I do, I try to be positive and talk about one of the few things we have in common: our interest in programming. Just the other day he asked me to look at this one error in a program he was working on, and I was actually enthusiastic as I was trying to figure out what the problem was.

One thing I want to make clear is that I really wish I didn’t hate him. Even though he’s a horrible human being, I feel very sad when I think about cutting myself off from him. And I’ve even had good times with him – we once went to Nagoya together when I was 11, and from what I remember it was a really nice trip. We didn’t fight at all, and he made the trip very exciting and interesting for me.

And I remember the last good phone conversation I had with him was about what I wanted to do after graduation, and he was suggesting that use my computer science skills for some kind of government job involved in surveillance. This was when the whole NSA PRISM stuff became widely known, so I said that I didn’t want such a job, and he said “That’s great! I’m proud of you because that means you have strong principles.” Just thinking about this is making me cry right now, because those words meant a lot to me – it was one of the few times he sounded very genuine and sincere. Sometimes even the words of the people I hate the most mean a lot to me.

The fact that I have to leave him because he’s abusive and dangerous is really hard to cope with. I’m not ashamed of not living up to his expectations, but I feel horrible about disappointing him despite all that he’s done to hurt me.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Ally

That’s pretty common, honestly. I mean, if someone was a complete asshole 24/7, no redeeming characteristics whatsoever, there would be nothing keeping us with them. Our parents had their good points too. They instilled in us a love of learning, the outdoors, and travel. They rooted us on in our work, and they were pleased when we succeeded. I didn’t want to leave or disappoint them either.

But the thing is, you can feel all of those things, and still realize that someone isn’t healthy for you to be around. That’s part of growing up, learning that just because you love someone doesn’t mean you should be around them.

And honestly? The hate will probably fade when you get away. I’m not angry at my folks anymore, really. Not nearly as often, anyway. I mostly feel a little sad, and a lot resigned. But it’s okay. It’s over. Now nobody’s hurting anybody anymore. And that’s better for everyone overall.

Discordia
Discordia
11 years ago

Hey um maybe I have no business posting here because I very rarely participate here anymore…but lately I have become very worried about things and well= I just kind of wanted to see what everyone here thought. Not sure if this is stupid but I am really getting scared of global warming up to the point of panic attacks…like I am afraid of humans becoming extinct in like 100 years or so and I really don’t know what to do to levitate that fear. Also I am really scared of robots taking all our jobs……like I am studying to become a math teacher and I read an article on robots taking over doctors teachers, ect. Most comments were like NEAT and I start having panic attacks. Am I behaving irrationally?

kittehserf
11 years ago

Discordia, of course you’re welcome to comment here!

On the global warming – I’m scared too, not anywhere in the region of panic attacks, though. (Virtual hugs if you want them.)

With over seven billion humans on the planet, I doubt we’d become extinct in that short time. Humans are extraordinarily adaptable, along with being destructive idiots. (I’m more distressed by all the mass extinctions we’re causing for the other inhabitants of the planet.) It could get very ugly, yes, but think of the things tiny human populations have adapted to, like the ice ages, with their huge impacts on climate.

Robots taking jobs – well, how many people would want to go to a robot doctor? Or have their kids taught by robots? Those don’t sound like the repetitive work that lends itself to automation, like assembly lines. Is there any suggestion that AI would reach the level needed for such complex things,and for interaction with humans, in the near future? You’ve obviously read more about it than I have, but it sounds unlikely to me. They were talking about this sort of thing in Nat Geo in the sixties and seventies … still hasn’t happened.

Discordia
Discordia
11 years ago

Thanks for the virtual hugs…I need to stay away from disturbing news articles…IK am likewise disturbed about hearing about how other life may become extinct through global warming and poaching and overhunting….its like why is sooo much of humankind so freaking destructive:(

That’s true…I read an article that in Japan and North Korea schools are using robot teachers…and I find that really distressing. Also was reading about robot nurses too and robot waiters…..its like what are we going to do about unemployement? and selfishly I would much rather deal with people then machines.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Yeah, Discordia, leave off the horrornews. God knows I do.

And Japan is developing robots in part because it has a huge aged population, and from what I understand, their youth population isn’t enough to support it. It’s not a common thing either.

The tech singularity is about as likely to happen as I am to win the lottery.

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