If you’re still looking for last-minute Halloween costumes — play along with me here, huh? — might I suggest what might possibly be the scariest one of all? Dress up like a (gasp!) Men’s Rights Activist, like the fellow above, a real-life MRA cosplayer I found on STFU Assholes.
If you’re looking for more MRA costume ideas, I suggest perusing the pictures here. (Warning: these are actual MRAs.)
So we’ve conclusively established that Good is 14, right?
Belated Halloween greetings to all. http://imgur.com/WlAyLvN
The only “real men” meme I can think of is “real men don’t hit their wives”, which is and always has been a widespread social problem.
Of course, since it has been shown that wives hit as much as husbands, it still shows bias. But those memes go much further than that. Basically, “real man” equals being servile to women:
http://images.firstcovers.com/covers/a/a_real_man-4798.jpg?i
http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_31468397_wwpyphsnff.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TdZNbXl3vgo/UD37ArXpKLI/AAAAAAAADW8/3-WIAfavmjg/s640/184447_362427377145162_1315077601_n.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m731tm78c71rxjsp6o1_500.jpg
http://static5.quoteswave.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/a-real-man-focuses-on-pleasing-his-girl-not.jpg
Having one’s manhood questioned if he doesn’t perform to a certain level for a woman or women is a shaming tactic.
I wonder, how many of those “real man” memes were created by feminists?
Anyway, I’m off to celebrate spookyday by watching Alan Davies say words on a stage. Have fun with Good, peoples.
Now Good has resorted to finding random pictures on the internet to make a point about gender dynamics. That’s what true social scientists do.
And even those images don’t support the notion that men are shamed for not being servile to women.
I see the problem: you’re writing from an alternate reality. Here in this reality, women are constantly shamed for not being appealing to any given man, and fatness (or accusations thereof) is one of the more common forms.
And please describe how this shaming is manifested. Is it by overweight women being ignored by the media? The “real women have curves” thing is based on the desire of big women to be shown as sexy by the media. But overweight women are not constantly shamed, but rather simply don’t get the attention that they like from the men they want attention from.
Feminism and the MRM are not equivalent.
I agree. The MRM is about true equality. Feminism promotes this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2470085/Women-fine-sexism-long-benefits-scientists-reveal.html
@argenti
Hope your hearing goes well. Good luck internet hugs, if you want them. :3
I’m actually doing trick or treating tonight, because my town kicked it back to nov. 1 because of terrible weather on halloween. So tonight I get to pass out candy to adorable kids at my stepmom’s. She said she might get 3 trick or treaters, cuz her house is out of the way, but better chances than at my mom’s, where nobody’s probably gonna come around to our apartment. (waaaayyyyy out of the way for a little apartment complex…)
Thank you, good, that was the funniest thing I’ve heard all day XD
Citation needed, O Boring One.
Wait, do feminists like ‘real man’ memes? Cuz I know I sure don’t care for them. Anyone who identifies as a man is a real man, whether they be a jerk or not is the problem.
And if I don’t like ‘real man’ memes, I despise ‘real women’ memes. Again, anyone who identifies as a woman is a real woman. Body type has nothing to do with it. And people sure don’t need to act like skinny women aren’t ‘real’ women to try to promote acceptances of fat and/or curvy women.
Is Good trying to make a valid point about mainstream feminism focusing mostly on white-middle class women? Probably not! But a girl can dream :p
I’m too giggly today, because it feels like good is saying the most hilarious shit ever XD
And, I’m getting kinda ramly, so I’ll post this comment before it’s so long everyone’s eyes gloss over it 😛 Cuz I tend to do that…a lot. XD
More evidence for emilygoddess’s “alternate reality” hypothesis.
Forget how he defines meme, how does he pronounce it?
My money’s on mee-mee.
Anytime some person/advertisement/opinion piece starts in with, “a real [category] does this…” I more often than not have to tune out whatever follows.
“MRAs are not comparable to racists and are definitely no more comparable to racists than feminists are”
That’s like saying NAACP is no different than the Klan.
@good
::headdesk:: Okay, good, I’ll try to explain this to you, since you’re managing to be marginally entertaining today. Mras aren’t misogynists because of they’re name, or whatever. Advocating for men’s rights would not be a bad thing. We call them misogynists because of what they do, they’re more interested in trying to take away women’s rights than to help men. That’s why they’re misogynists. And if you’d like to point out feminists doing something similar (trying to hurt men instead of helping women) be my guest. But until then, enough with the false equivalence
@viscaria
🙁 That sucks.
@emilygoddess
Wow, that is such a strange definition of feminism XD I will be going as a witch this halloween, and I’m already a feminist and a lesbian, so I hit three of them? Maybe.
Wait, overweight women aren’t constantly shamed?! Someone take me to Good’s universe, it sounds my more enjoyable then the one I live in called ‘reality’.
*gasp* Is he Beaker?
Lol, I was wondering when Notso was going to break down and start flailing irrelevant links everywhere. I mean, he managed so many unlinked comments, I was starting to worry that the apocalypse was coming!
That’s like saying NAACP is no different than the Klan
So you see feminism as comparable to the Klan?
@Good
Way to miss the point, fool. Zie’s saying that mra’s want to take people’s rights away, like the klan* where as feminists and the NAACP are both trying to work to get people rights.
*Not my favorite analogy/comparison, not sure why though, so whatever.
For some reason all Good’s babbling is making this quote run through my head and I do not appreciate associating HHttG with MRAs.
::headdesk:: Okay, good, I’ll try to explain this to you, since you’re managing to be marginally entertaining today. Mras aren’t misogynists because of they’re name, or whatever. Advocating for men’s rights would not be a bad thing. We call them misogynists because of what they do, they’re more interested in trying to take away women’s rights than to help men. That’s why they’re misogynists. And if you’d like to point out feminists doing something similar (trying to hurt men instead of helping women) be my guest. But until then, enough with the false equivalence
Of course, you have listed not a single right that men have that MRAs are trying to take away from women.
Way to miss the point, fool. Zie’s saying that mra’s want to take people’s rights away, like the klan* where as feminists and the NAACP are both trying to work to get people rights.
Name these rights please.
My money’s on mee-mee.
Projection? You stated this because that is how you originally pronounced it right?
@Good
Short story: Read the whole goddam blog.
Long story: (tw/cw people being horrible) You’ve got red pillers talking about talking about ‘training’ your girlfriend, comparing them to dogs which is dehumanizing, Driver Suz talking about how women should be grateful men didn’t oppress them as much as they could have (bonus implications of ‘so shut up and be happy with what you have at the moment’ Paul Elam saying many horrible things, among that women are begging to be raped and a Spearheader saying women don’t deserve college educations. Those are all horrible, though I think the last one fits your definition best.
Now show me feminists saying similar things about men.
@Good
And you’ve got (TW: rape/rape apologia, also ableism) this shit right here which I’ll copy/paste my ‘favorite’ bits so you don’t have to trouble yourself of going through a link.
So pretty much, straight forward encouraging people to rape. Tell me how that is advocating for men’s rights. I’ll be waiting.
And, sorry non-good people for spamming, tell me if you all want me to stop. :3
Okay, good, you’ve also got this lovely example of mra ‘activism’ Spoiler space: It’s just about terrifying women.
And in this article you’ve got Roosh sharing his wonderful dislike of domestic violence laws. It’s from a pua, not an mra, so maybe you’ll disagree? But it blends in damn well with the other shit mras say.
How about you try to find a source that supports your views for once?
Now show me feminists saying similar things about men
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-violence/alexacaliente-alyssapry-anitasarkeesian-jaclynf-abc-radfem-hub-the-underbelly-of-a-hate-movement/
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/your-new-employee-krista-milburn/
http://www.womenagainstmen.com/media/feminism-is-a-hate-group.html
(Excluding the Catherine MacKinnon misquote)
http://hollsboll.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/why-all-men-should-be-castrated/
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