So A Voice for Men has finally responded to Jaclyn Friedman’s masterful takedown of the Men’s Rights movement:
No, sorry, my mistake. AVFM didn’t respond to her article by farting. It responded with an article accusing her of farting. No, really.
In an article with the fart-referencing title “Gone with Jaclyn’s wind,” AVFM “Honey Badger” Diana Davison tries to rebut Friedman with some really, really strained fart metaphors:
In Jaclyn’s habitat, there is a foul and ominous odour beneath the sheets. Since, according to her, the MHRM are all dogs, it is easiest just to blame the stench on them.
Ho ho!
Davison then takes the argument underground:
There are many canards in the coal mine of Jaclyn’s article about the MHRM that quite quickly die of gas.
Wait, so now Jaclyn is farting carbon monoxide?
And one more toot:
The next trouser trumpet is her insistence that the MHRM is an attack of men against women … .
The fart metaphors, strained though they are, turn out to be the most coherent parts of Davison’s little rant. As far as I can figure it, her main complaints about Friedman’s piece are that:
- Friedman calls the Manosphere the Manosphere, even though there are a handful of women involved in it.
- Friedman “silenced” her by not linking to Davison’s last dumb piece about her in AVFM, and by (gasp!) blocking her on Twitter.
- Friedman doesn’t enjoy it when AVFM commenters make rape jokes about her.
Speaking of commenters, the comments to Davison’s article are of course a joy to behold.
Paul Elam gets “firsties” with a long comment lauding Davison and further attacking Friedman. Elam picks up on the whole fart thing, describing Friedman as an “orally flatulent windbag” before launching into his version of their encounter in New York during the filming of the 20/20 piece which could eventually air sometime this millennium.
His biggest complaint about her? That she (allegedly) told him to shut his fucking piehole — not in those words, of course — and nobody puts Pauley in a corner tells Pauly to shut his fucking piehole
Before you read this, I encourage you to reacquaint yourself (if necessary) with the psychological concept of projection. And to remember that Elam is very fond of telling other people to shut up. He’s quick to banhammer dissenters in his comments section, quick to toss AVFM contributors overboard when they disagree with him, and one time he actually tried to start up his own version of a Men’s Rights subreddit where he could ban whoever he wanted.
Anyhoo, with that in mind, let’s read what he had to say about Friedman:
I tell you one thing for sure, what I saw of her emotionally shined through the brightest at one particular moment. She had said about three times that the conversation we were having was over. And then of course she re-engaged in that conversation repeatedly.
The last time she said it was over, she tried to issue it like an edict…”I said this conversation is over!”
I told her that she did not instruct me to do anything.
And that is when I saw it. Pure, raw hatred on her face. She did her best to stare a hole in me, and she had the look of someone who was quite used to doing that sort of thing and having it work.
After all her histrionic bullshit about me inspiring mass murder and poor widdle defenseless wimmins having to turn to the FBI and go into some sort of rape culture protection program because of the things I had written, the thing that got her the most, that really tuned on the faucets of anger, was that she could not tell me to shut up and have me comply — or even give a fuck.
I would bet the farm that moment was her in a nutshell.
And it fits. With all the bragging she has done about her big old smelly electronic clit and how she and her friends have bullied their non compliant sisters to the sidelines; with her crusade to censor people at facebook; her blocking Diana Davison on twitter for daring to stand up as a woman who opposed her sick ideology, the true Jacklyn Friedman, the personality disordered control freak with a huge chip on her shoulder, didn’t care about any goddam cause.
She just wants to tell people what to do.
Fuck that and fuck you, Jacklyn Friedman. If someone told you that you ever had a prayer of running shit in the MHRM, they lied to you.
Oh boy. Where to even start with this feast of revealing bullshittery? Perhaps the massive projection about the “pure raw hatred on her face” and Friedman “having the look of someone who was quite used to doing that sort of thing and having it work?”
Here’s a screenshot from a video of Elam’s in which he discussed this very encounter with Friedman. What word would you use to describe that look? (Hint: The word I would use starts with H and ends with E and is “hate.”)
And then that bit about Friedman wanting to “run shit in the MHRM?” Woah. I’m pretty sure she’d rather chew her own toes off than hang out with you guys for any length of time, even if she were running the show.
Somehow I think Paul’s anger on this point is directed at, well, every other MRA who might possibly challenge HIS supreme authority in “running shit” in the “MHRM.”
And, oh, that bit about Friedman’s “smelly electronic clit?” Smelly clit?! Uh, how do I put this delicately? When there is an odor issue in that, er, general area of a cis woman, the clit is not actually the source of it. Paul, you’ve been married, what, four times? Do you somehow still not have a basic understanding of the standard-issue cis lady bits?
And now I’ve got an image stuck in my head of Elam’s hatey face in the general vicinity of some poor woman’s vagina, and I’ve officially ruined my lunch.
I’m not going to bother with the rest of the comments. It’s AVFM. There are rape jokes. There are fat jokes. There are multiple uses of the word “cunt.”
What a magnificent “Human Rights Movement” we have here.
@brook. When you’ve done all the hard yards, can you come back and do some splaining? Then we can all benefit. Because right now I can’t get my pretty little head around the AVfM Superior Male Logic.
@HeatherN
Whenever Big Daddy Government comes around I just hid in my bunker and keep busy by stacking MREs and counting bullets.
@leftwingfox
You just won the internet in one fell swoop. Good show.
Wow, most people wait until after a story about their bad behavior has come out to begin digging the hole deeper and making themselves look even worse. Seems like Paulie here is getting an early start.
@Chris Wilson
“Jaclyn Friedman, A Clit As Big as the World” is actually the title of Friedman’s one woman show. I saw an off-Broadway production of it last fall and, to be brutally honest, thought it was a poor man’s Vagina Monologues.
I hate to creep shame, but Diana Davison is really weird. I tried watching one of her videos a while ago and I just had to stop 4 mins in. I don’t understand her cadence or sense of humor. Someone on /r/AMR used the term “tryhard” the other day to describe JB. Never heard the term before, so I had to look it up.
I think Davison is a tryhard.
@chibigodzilla
“And the bug-eyed monster?”
“Is Paul Elam, yes.”
Oh, sure, Brooked, you’re trying to get into the male mind–except I notice you’re not volunteering to go hunting any wooly mammoths or extinguishing any SCENTED FUCKING CANDLES, now are you?
@leftwingfox
“The first though in my head about electric clit?
Theremin.”
I just laughed SO hard, while all kinds of, um, interesting images flashed through my brain.
Okay, okay, wait. I think I got it.
Elam’s actually admitting he was sexually interested in her.
Who would have an electronic clit? Why, an ANDROID, of course!
And who do we know supports the development of fembot androids? Why, the MRM!
So, there you have it–he meant it as a compliment.
… How?
How could someone do that to a poor, defenceless sentence?
Remember the earlier article where the dude was going on about AVFM having many talented female writers? Um, yeah. “Canards” in the coal mine and “the MHRM are all dogs”.
Meanwhile, Elam has once again got stuck at the NO U stage of his personal rage cycle.
But what would a stinky electronic clique be?
Is it just me, or is calling someone you dislike “personality disordered” becoming increasingly common? Do people like it because it sounds more educated than just calling someone “crazy”? As someone who actually has a personality disorder, I’m curious.
At least this part made me laugh out loud:
I can just imagine Jaclyn Friedman shouting “Dammit! How did he figure out my plan?!”
Someone’s insecurities are showing again.
That comment made me wonder if at some point Elam tried to join a feminist group with the intention of showing the members the error of their ways and it didn’t go well.
Or it could be directed at his FeMRA peanut gallery. He wouldn’t want the ladies to get any ideas, get uppity and think they really have a voice in the organization.
I would say “or both”, but I don’t think he’s that clever.
MRAs, I fart in your general direction. Take that.
😛
Also, women journalists have been known to do wee-wees. True story.
…The fans of Daft Punk in a mirror universe where intelligent life descended from skunks?
He’s just trying to NO U the comments about people swinging their dicks around, but it doesn’t work because he doesn’t understand how to metaphor.
“Masterful takedown” LOL! Oh no our end has come. 🙂
Good lord, it really is an entire movement built on “You can’t tell me what to do, Mommy!”
Yes, Paul dear. Feminists don’t really care about stopping rape, murder and oppression; they just want to make you, personally, eat your icky veggies. Poor, poor Paul.
It’s funny how upset these guys get about being blocked on Facebook, Twitter, and so on. Do they think that only happens to MRAs, or to men?
It doesn’t say good things about a movement when one of it’s most prominent complaints is “some people don’t want to talk to me on social media”.
I can sort of see why some of them complain about being blocked on social media. A surprising number of MRAs are atheists, and atheists spend a not-insignificant amount of time arguing with theists, and theists like to block people just for disagreeing with them. Therefore being blocked is equated with silencing dissent. It’s not exactly rational to assert that the only reason to block people is to silence legitimate criticisms, but the (faulty) logic is pretty clear.