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A Voice for Men responds to Jaclyn Friedman’s takedown of the Men’s Rights movement with fart, fat, rape jokes

So A Voice for Men has finally responded to Jaclyn Friedman’s masterful takedown of the Men’s Rights movement:

No, sorry, my mistake. AVFM didn’t respond to her article by farting. It responded with an article accusing her of farting. No, really.

In an article with the fart-referencing title “Gone with Jaclyn’s wind,” AVFM “Honey Badger” Diana Davison tries to rebut Friedman with some really, really strained fart metaphors:

In Jaclyn’s habitat, there is a foul and ominous odour beneath the sheets. Since, according to her, the MHRM are all dogs, it is easiest just to blame the stench on them.

Ho ho!

Davison then takes the argument underground:

There are many canards in the coal mine of Jaclyn’s article about the MHRM that quite quickly die of gas.

Wait, so now Jaclyn is farting carbon monoxide?

And one more toot:

The next trouser trumpet is her insistence that the MHRM is an attack of men against women … .

The fart metaphors, strained though they are, turn out to be the most coherent parts of Davison’s little rant. As far as I can figure it, her main complaints about Friedman’s piece are that:

  1. Friedman calls the Manosphere the Manosphere, even though there are a handful of women involved in it.
  2. Friedman “silenced” her by not linking to Davison’s last dumb piece about her in AVFM, and by (gasp!) blocking her on Twitter.
  3. Friedman doesn’t enjoy it when AVFM commenters make rape jokes about her.

Speaking of commenters, the comments to Davison’s article are of course a joy to behold.

Paul Elam gets “firsties” with a long comment lauding Davison and further attacking Friedman. Elam picks up on the whole fart thing, describing Friedman as an “orally flatulent windbag” before launching into his version of their encounter in New York during the filming of the 20/20 piece which could eventually air sometime this millennium.

His biggest complaint about her? That she (allegedly) told him to shut his fucking piehole — not in those words, of course — and nobody puts Pauley in a corner tells Pauly to shut his fucking piehole

Before you read this, I encourage you to reacquaint yourself (if necessary) with the psychological concept of projection. And to remember that Elam is very fond of telling other people to shut up. He’s quick to banhammer dissenters in his comments section, quick to toss AVFM contributors overboard when they disagree with him, and one time he actually tried to start up his own version of a Men’s Rights subreddit where he could ban whoever he wanted.

Anyhoo, with that in mind, let’s read what he had to say about Friedman:

I tell you one thing for sure, what I saw of her emotionally shined through the brightest at one particular moment. She had said about three times that the conversation we were having was over. And then of course she re-engaged in that conversation repeatedly.

The last time she said it was over, she tried to issue it like an edict…”I said this conversation is over!”

I told her that she did not instruct me to do anything.

And that is when I saw it. Pure, raw hatred on her face. She did her best to stare a hole in me, and she had the look of someone who was quite used to doing that sort of thing and having it work.

After all her histrionic bullshit about me inspiring mass murder and poor widdle defenseless wimmins having to turn to the FBI and go into some sort of rape culture protection program because of the things I had written, the thing that got her the most, that really tuned on the faucets of anger, was that she could not tell me to shut up and have me comply — or even give a fuck.

I would bet the farm that moment was her in a nutshell.

And it fits. With all the bragging she has done about her big old smelly electronic clit and how she and her friends have bullied their non compliant sisters to the sidelines; with her crusade to censor people at facebook; her blocking Diana Davison on twitter for daring to stand up as a woman who opposed her sick ideology, the true Jacklyn Friedman, the personality disordered control freak with a huge chip on her shoulder, didn’t care about any goddam cause.

She just wants to tell people what to do.

Fuck that and fuck you, Jacklyn Friedman. If someone told you that you ever had a prayer of running shit in the MHRM, they lied to you.

Oh boy. Where to even start with this feast of revealing bullshittery? Perhaps the massive projection about the “pure raw hatred on her face” and Friedman “having the look of someone who was quite used to doing that sort of thing and having it work?”

Here’s a screenshot from a video of Elam’s in which he discussed this very encounter with Friedman. What word would you use to describe that look? (Hint: The word I would use starts with H and ends with E and is “hate.”)

paulelamlilderangPNN

And then that bit about Friedman wanting to “run shit in the MHRM?” Woah. I’m pretty sure she’d rather chew her own toes off than hang out with you guys for any length of time, even if she were running the show.

Somehow I think Paul’s anger on this point is directed at, well, every other MRA who might possibly challenge HIS supreme authority in “running shit” in the “MHRM.”

And, oh, that bit about Friedman’s “smelly electronic clit?” Smelly clit?! Uh, how do I put this delicately? When there is an odor issue in that, er, general area of a cis woman, the clit is not actually the source of it.  Paul, you’ve been married, what, four times? Do you somehow still not have a basic understanding of the standard-issue cis lady bits?

And now I’ve got an image stuck in my head of Elam’s hatey face in the general vicinity of some poor woman’s vagina, and I’ve officially ruined my lunch.

I’m not going to bother with the rest of the comments. It’s AVFM. There are rape jokes. There are fat jokes. There are multiple uses of the word “cunt.”

What a magnificent “Human Rights Movement” we have here.

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onnastik
onnastik
11 years ago

I’m pretty sure- though I had to think about it for a few minutes- that the “electronic clit” thing is just a really weird attempt at sex-swapping the “e-peen” that people talk about when people on the Internet start comparing such things.

It doesn’t work, of course, and leaves everyone confused, because I don’t think the size of the actual clitoris has ever been a metaphor for imagined power. It’s just another “NO U” moment from the ~*~champions of equality~*~.

babsbeaty (@babsbeaty)
11 years ago

Re: the electronic clit?

I immediately thought is meant they considered her writing masturbatory nonsense, and were comparing her time typing and posting online to stroking her clit (ie: her keyboard) . . .
but then I realized I had gone far too deep and had already sunk too much thought into it.

I suspect it is really more a long the lines of a fart joke. “Hey! Lady! You have icky weird lady parts. And, and . . . and . . .they stink . . . and . . .and … and they aren’t even real lady parts, their like metal or plastic or something, ’cause you’re not even a real lady. Yeah. So there!”

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

PaulE shouldn’t be calling anyone else a flatulent windbag. Paul, remember: the one who smelt it dealt it.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

Oh Elam, if you tipped your hand any farther, you’d be holding your cards backward. Let’s nix the ableism and re-gender the pronouns…

the control freak with a huge chip on zir shoulder, didn’t care about any goddam cause.

Zie just wants to tell people what to do.

Brooked
Brooked
11 years ago

@tedthefed

Hey guys, let me tell you about one time that I was having an argument with someone, and they told me to shut up, and I reacted with amazing poise and dignity and said exactly the right thing and completely won the argument.

After that, I opened a Willy Wonka Bar and totally found the last golden ticket, and then I drank champagne and Kanye West called me on the phone to tell me he liked me.

For you that’s a one time occurrence, but that’s what every single fucking day is like for Rock Star/MHRHMH World Leader Paul Elem.
—-

After all her histrionic bullshit about me inspiring mass murder and poor widdle defenseless wimmins having to turn to the FBI and go into some sort of rape culture protection program because of the things I had written

For some reason I’m a little skeptical about the veracity of Elem’s account of their conversation. I did enjoy the FBI Rape Culture Protection Program jab, it’s just more proof that Elem is truly the master of rape apology-based satire.

SittieKitty
11 years ago

The other thing that’s been really bugging me:

It’s canaries in a coal mine for fuck’s sakes! Canaries! Little yellow birds that sing, not fucking ducks! Grr…

baileyrenee
11 years ago

@SittieKitty

OHHHHHHHH. THAT’S WHAT SHE MEANT. SERIOUSLY I HAD NO IDEA.

Also, I’m finding all these interpretations of “electronic clit” fascinating. What a riddle to be solved.

Athywren
Athywren
11 years ago

Is an electronic clit related to an electronic thumb?

baileyrenee
11 years ago

All theories are welcome Athywren. It’s a mystery.

bodycrimes
11 years ago

Just to clarify something here. When he says “orally flatulent windbag”, does he mean she burped?

baileyrenee
11 years ago

I think he means her accusations/arguments were like farts.

What THAT means, I don’t know. Not good, I guess.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

@Athywren

Well, the thumb’s an electronic sub-ether device, the roundabout’s at Barbard’s Star, six light-years away, but otherwise that’s more or less it.

dlouwe
dlouwe
11 years ago

@onnastik: That’s where my mind went, too. Though it’s doubly confusing that he used the adjectives “big old smelly” to describe it, which (on top of throwing in some unnecessary hate towards women’s bodies) makes it seem like “big” is an undesirable quality. Which then means he’s basically contradicting his own analogy.

Chris Wilson
11 years ago

AVFM had an article a few weeks ago that I didn’t read called something like “Jaclyn Friedman, A Clit As Big as the World”, which I think referred to Jaclyn using the clitoris as a metaphor in some piece of writing, and also to the AVFM idea that she wants to take over the world, like all feminists!

So I’m guessing the electric clit think is some reference to their previous article.

The mystery deepens.

bodycrimes
11 years ago

I just read through the comments over at AVfM. There’s a comment at the end about how all men are coming together, from all different social classes, because they realise feminism is the enemy. Men standing together, united. Just above a comment about how women are all a herd and all pretty much alike. I wish I had Superior Male Logic so I could understand the difference between people showing solidarity and people just being a herd.

Brooked
Brooked
11 years ago

I insist that the ACLU take steps to stop Friedman and her ilk, who censor people on Facebook and block strangers on Twitter! (Unless I’m misunderstanding how Facebook works and blocking jackasses on Twitter is a good idea, in which case never mind.)

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
11 years ago

Breakin’ 2: Electric Clit Boogaloo(?)

Brooked
Brooked
11 years ago

@bodycrimes

I wish I had Superior Male Logic so I could understand the difference between people showing solidarity and people just being a herd.

Me too! I know it’s a longshot but I’m working proactively to somehow gain access to male wisdom. I’m getting college degrees in all four letters of STEM, spending thousands on PUA training, holding doors open hours at a time, forcing myself to find ‘Don’t Be That Girl’ mock posters hilarious, changing tires on random cars, actively combating spermjacking and inventing new technology. *crosses fingers*

Brooked
Brooked
11 years ago

Damn you Blockquote Monster, damn you to Hell!

HeatherN
11 years ago

@Brooked: Presumably you’re you’re doing all that without the help of anyone, at all. Completely independently. In fact, it’s a huge sacrifice on your part…to the All Mighty Woman-Monster.

sparky
sparky
11 years ago

Canards in a coal mine? SciFi has entire show about that called Ghost Mine.

Of course, that shows about a gold mine….

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
11 years ago

You guys just don’t understand. Paul really wrote electronic WIT. But that damn auto-correct is controlled by feminists and changed it to clit.

Misandry!

nilvoid
nilvoid
11 years ago

The Men’s Human Rights Movement is NOT misogynist, and to prove that to you I will call you a cunt several times.

leftwingfox
11 years ago

The first though in my head about electric clit?

Theremin.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Canuck_with_pluck — no it isn’t! Autocorrect wouldn’t ever do anything that’d screw up what you wrote. What’re you thinking? (Seriously? Now it doesn’t screw up contractions?)

P.S. There’ say cat in my lap (there we go, autocorrect fail!)