Today I learned something from the Men’s Rights subreddit that’s, honestly, a little disturbing. In a topic with the title David Futrelle seriously needs help, I found the following exchange:
![EvilPundit 7 points 2 days ago* (10|3) Like Hugo Schwyzer, Futrelle is exploiting his position as the feminists' "trusty". He's a man who can be counted on to dish up dirt against other men, so he gets quoted by feminist media, invited to parties with the right people, and so on. He probably thinks they're his friends, but wait until he steps just one millimetre out of line ... permalink source save give gold hide child comments [–]Alisdair_ 0 points 2 days ago (8|8) I think it foreshadows what will happen if feminists get their way with the human race. When feminist utopia comes and men are living in slums outside of the city walls the men who just pillage and slaughter other men will be lauded and taken in to be treated very warmly, possibly used for breeding and then fed to sharks. Some even outright say these things, but you see most of their actions foreshadow the same kinds of wishes.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/partiesbreedingsharks.png?resize=526%2C323&ssl=1)
Ulp! I just signed up for the parties and the breeding. I didn’t know about the sharks.
Elsewhere in the thread, Alisdair writes of me:
I get the feeling that this is just one of those guys, frequently held in high esteem with the feminists, who basically want every man out there cuckolded. With the alpha cock and all of that.
He’s pretty much nailed it. Here’s my to-do list for today.
- Write blog post
- Candy Crush (9 hours)
- Play fetch with cats (4 hours)
- Clean litter box
- Get every man cuckolded (with the alpha cock)
- Go to grocery store
One down, five to go!
I think I’d find having a pet around who looked exactly like the one I’d lost, but wasn’t him, absolutely heartbreaking.
Same here. Plus, it’s such a denial of the new pet’s individuality, isn’t it? It’s so … I don’t know the word I want; reductionist, maybe? Ignoring nurture completely and assuming it’s all nature?
@Kittehs
I found several pairs of green eyes. Which ones are yours?
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Cloning pets? NO. NO. And more NO. I can’t even handle taxidermy and whatever the hell this is (TW: taxidermy and sheer what the fuckery):
http://www.ripleys.com/weird/daily-dose-of-weird-wtf-blog/unbelievable-but-true/the-orvillecopter/
Hmm, I rather fancy the eyes in the first pic.
Might freak out Mr Serf a bit, though.
Gods, that fucking sick bastard.
I wish I’d read your TW. That was horrible.
Okay, I’m off to watch telly and/or knit. Niters, all!
I’m Sorry. There was no deliberate cruelty- he didn’t kill the cat- but yeah. I cannot wrap my head around why a person would taxidermy zie’s pet, let alone make it fly.
Brain Bleach:
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Oh my fuck, why!? I so do not get taxidermy… In particular weird, novelty taxidermy.
Thinking of Femitheist again:
I’ve been thinking about it a bit and re-watching some of her stranger videos and I think it’s some experimental project thing. Her more radical videos are really weird and artsy, it’s all too dramatic and over the top to believe. It’s a shame she does things like that because she’s fairly intellegent and says a decent amount of not-ridiculous things. I have no idea WHY she adds on all the other stuff, but there’s just… no way she’s serious.
I think. I hope. Must be. Shit’s weird.
The internet has taught me never to assume that something a person is saying is too ridiculous to be their true opinion. Idiocy is not exactly in short supply.
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”- Albert Einstein
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Oh, that’s true CassandraSays. I guess it’s just… how much stranger she presents herself the more radical she sounds. It just seems fake to me. I know there’s totally a chance she’s legit, I just can’t believe it. At least other radicals have sort of gradual descent into utter wrongness, she just seems either pretty reasonable or totally WTF and over dramatic. She’s really, really hard to figure out.
Poe’s are also common enough so I’d say trust your instincts, I’m just far too jaded to think that someone can’t possibly be as ridiculous as they seem because, well, look at Zarat who we were discussing upthread. Who could make him up? And yet he exists.
Don’t you fucking hate that? Some poes fool so easily, some REAL people are so unbelievable.
There are some people who, if you tried to use them as fictional characters, your editor would send you back the manuscript with a note about the character being too unrealistic and how the reader would never buy it.
On the subject of Poe’s Law and misogyny, this funny and extremely well produced video had me going for a few minutes:
Um, why? The kind of guys who support the driving ban would never in a million years even consider doing something that looks like that. It was obvious that it was a joke right from the first few seconds.
(Maybe this is just because I’ve lived in the Gulf but seriously, that comment made my eyebrows go right up to the hairline.)
@Cassandrasays
OK, I’ve got something. This quote by manwomanmyth:
“If women disappeared tomorrow men would invent artificial wombs and get on their way. If men disappeared tomorrow, society would collapse at the first oil change.”
It’s not exactly “we have invented X so we don’t need women anymore”, but it’s pretty close.
@Citizen Justin
I don’t remember how sperm and ovaries are made, I mostly do immunohistochemistry and ISH these days, but I do know that the quality degrades for both men and women as time goes by, which is why couples need an extensive variety of tests if a child is to be born after a certain age.
Theoretically, you are correct: if you manage to make ovaries out of your sperm (or sperm out of your ovaries) you could make a perfectly viable clone of yourself. Practically… Again, there are plenty of complications that need to be taken into account. Anyway, if you want to talk about this without us further derailing this thread you can tweet me at l3nsman.
@everyone who pointed at the sex-bot obsession that some PUAs and MGTOWs have.
I am aware of it and it creeps me out.
The truly disturbing fact is that what they describe is already happening in Japan. There are already men who are so divorced from reality that they marry their virtual girlfriends, and swear off real women altogether. And, if I remember correctly, that woman who married herself was also Japanese.
Again, I don’t want to derail this thread, I just wanted to input some clarifications about cloning and say that I liked the kitty-shark. If anyone wants to continue this discussion send a message at the “Open Troll Thread”.
ManWomanMyth and FemitheistDivine should debate. That would be fun.
Lensman wins the politest troll award. Worth noting since they so rarely are.
(Obviously he’s not acting like a troll here, but he seems to be aware that he’s been seen that way in the past.)
@auggziliary I know I’ve heard that before, and like I said, I don’t think she’s serious, but do you have any idea where she said that? I’ve never personally seen her admit it. I know she doesn’t support “castration day” anymore (if she ever really did). I would love to know for sure.
Cassandra —
pH, that’ sway.Oh, that’s why (just what is auto correct smoking?!) I groaned when I saw the nym but those comments aren’t rude or anything, must be previous comments that had my brain set to groan.Regarding virtual spouses…I still don’t see the problem. They aren’t hurting anyone, so who cares? Don’t want one? No problem with that, but can we not call people who do “divorced from reality”? I’ve gotten enough shit for being a masochist that I’m not inclined to shit on other people’s sex lives.
My issue isn’t with the desire to fuck robots (not my thing, but hey, whatever), it’s with the idea that the robots will replace an entire gender and then they’ll be sorry (so they should do what we want now or else). The attempted manipulation and revenge parts of the fantasy, in other words.
Ah okay, thanks auggziliary.
Sex robots… I admit I think it’s weird, but, meh. I’m into stuff a lot of people would think is weird. Knock yourselves out. I think it gets creepy when it becomes some utopian sex-slave-bot fantasy where real humans aren’t seen as desirable compared to robots or something (cause robots don’t talk back amirite!?), but I’m sure most people into sex-bots/virtual sex/dolls/whatever aren’t like that. That’s a pretty general thing for any sort of kink. I like fem-domme, but if I got to the point where I actually want some MRA’s cuckolding man-slave nightmare world, then that would be fucked up of me.
But of course, we actually do want that, so nevermind!