Jaclyn Friedman, who faced off with A Voice for Men’s always charming Paul Elam for that 20/20 story that may eventually air sometime this century, has just published a great piece in the American Prospect on the Men’s Rights movement. Unlike some recent writers on the subject who’ve been taken in by some of the “movement’s” rhetoric and personalities — *cough*R. Tod Kelly at the Daily Beast*cough* — she fucking nails them. Check it out.
sakurabelle – I was thinking this morning that for a bunch who’re so fond of saying women need to “take responsibility,” these fuckwads are pretty damn keen on evading it for themselves.
Though since their idea of women taking responsibility boils down to us being responsible/to blame for every bad thing men do to us, it’s all of a piece, really.
Well at least they’re honest about the fact that their movement is a joke?
I can’t help but wonder what it is that they’re supposed to be satirising, though? Usually there’s something that satire targets… and usually, it’s so far outside the bounds of sense that it’s obvious. Their satire is just run of the mill fundamentalism and misogyny.
Also Roosh bragging about his allegedly big bits doesn’t sound like satire. More like desperate attempts at self-validation. Someone should remind him that a big penis doesn’t make up for a tiny, shrivelled personality.
What good is a big dick if no one wants near it?
Easier for him to rage-wank?
Oh, Roosh didn’t write the article. Someone called ‘Rebel Yell’ did.
That name sounds familiar.
Urgh, I hope that scumbag doesn’t actually have children. Well, none he’s in contact with, anyway.
Mind you it’s true of Roosh anyway – rage-wanker extraordinaire.
Isn’t there a rule for satire that’s basically “If you have to explain that it’s satire, ur doin it rong”?
Maybe it’s something about being English, but I’ve never felt the need to tell anyone about my averagely sized eight foot penis… that is average, right? It’s not small…?
If you’re going to need to know anything about it, you’ll find out well enough in advance… and if you don’t, who cares?
Jeez, that must make buying trousers a challenge.
With a name like that, of course he’s into rage-wanking, or as he’d call it, “dancing with myself”.
Ewww!
Now that would’ve made Dr Who interesting…
TW: child abuse
“They should be beat constantly until they realize that they can’t get away and have to fight back to survive.”
…or they give up thinking anything they do matters since no matter what they do they get beat.
I may have some experience in this matter…troll bashing is excellent therapy. (We did eventually start hitting back, but it took until we were both teenagers…does mean that if you lay a hand on me, you may be eating the ground, so there’s that, I guess)
Now that is not how I want to imagine Tom Baker, thankyouverymuch.
Argenti – that just brought to mind how Louis was whipped (not beaten with fists, whipped) until, in one book’s phrase, “his physical development precluded it.” Old enough to fight back, in other words. Not even being a king saves one from abuse.
Virtual-hugs-in-memory to you both.
May all abusers be [dealt with in an unpleasant manner.]
OT, I just looked at our Ferrety overlord’s twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Sexismbusters/status/393466364590972928
I like the message TM’s sending. “Either you’re instantly victorious across the board, or you’ve lost.” And that’s why (reason #1429753945) the MRM is a joke.
Not only is a child unlikely to fight back because they don’t know if they’ll get beaten more, but the sheer size disadvantage means it wouldn’t do them much good if they tried.
For people who claim to be oppressed, these fuckers sure love fantasising about abusing those who are, or who they assume to be, physically helpless against them.
Yeah, we were both teenagers before we fought back, and I was doing theatre and carrying 75+ lbs of metal blocks arms in front of me style (ah lighting weights, how rusty you were), and my brother is ~200lbs. Plus, by then, our father was walking with a cane and using it to threaten us. Yeah, that was scary at first, then it dawned on both of us that he couldn’t catch us…
Took asshole awhile to learn that we were going to respond with overwhelming force without a second thought.
Moral of the story? Until the kid(s) in question are sure, I mean sure, that they can put you on the ground until you stay there! they won’t fight back. Maybe a few times, but the resulting “punishment” will only make it less likely.
(Oh, that martial arts discussion, I’ve picked up some judo and kempo from ex’s and both are fairly practical, judo in particular is using your opponent’s momentium against them and stuff like that)
I just checked out Mr. Horrible Martin’s twitter feed (linked by Athywren). It is kind of disturbing how much of it sounds just like what he said the last time he was here–down to being hilariously touchy about being bald.
You say that like those things somehow make you a bad person.
@grumpycatisagirl
I don’t know, but from the description, I’m really curious what the quote is…
@sakuarbelle
*eyetwitch* Ugh, he’s horrible.
@auggz
I laughed too hard XD
You know, I seriously wonder if someone told MRAs/PUAs the definition of “satire,” a lot of them would be like “Oh. Shit, we said some awful shit.”
Nope, because they are horrible people.
@Cthulhu’s Intern
Nah, they’d just reject the real definition and make up their own.
I know, I tell them the actual definition of “feminism” all the time. 😛
Angela, you nailed it. Words only mean what those tossers want them to mean.