Vox Day, the reactionary fantasy author and pickup guru who was recently expelled from the Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers of America , has convinced himself that education for women leads to “demographic implosion” because uppity educated women don’t have enough babies.
Indeed, Vox — real name, Theodore Beale — is convinced that education for women is such a bad thing that he actually thinks that “the Taliban may not, in fact, be the stupid ones with regards to this particular matter.”
By this he means not only that they’re right to keep girls out of schools, but that they’re also probably justified in shooting teenage girls for the terrible crime of speaking up publicly in favor of education for girls like themselves.
No, really:
[I]n light of the strong correlation between female education and demographic decline, a purely empirical perspective on Malala Yousafzai, the poster girl for global female education, may indicate that the Taliban’s attempt to silence her was perfectly rational and scientifically justifiable.
It’s quite telling that it is the “shooting-girls-in-the-head” issue that turns Beale — a right-wing evangelical Christian — into something of a fan of the Taliban.
“I love how the grammar deteriorates as the rage mounts.”
It’s fascinating how you lie and think you’re a mind reader. I’m not angry. I’m laughing.
“How do these goofballs spend hours commenting here and then talk about how we’re beneath their notice? Do they really miss the irony in that?”
Because there is no irony. I never said any such thing as “you’re beneath my notice.”
And now we’ve got “I know you are but what am I?” (Also, the notion of a self-described atheist claiming to be able to call out who is and isn’t a Christian, based on whether they follow the Nicene Creed, is amusing to no end.)
It is an objective truth that jinxy’s grammar is perfect.
(Please remember to wear a bib – you’re getting spittle all over the rug.)
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE UNDENIABLE TROOOOOOF OF my arguments about the father, the son, and the holy hedgehog. Only those who worship* my holy spines and tiny pointed nose shall find eternal peace.
*Worship includes posting YouTube videos of you gently bathing me in the bathroom sink.
Not that it’s worth trying to make a sensible argument here, but…
You have hundreds of millions of people who are referred to in everyday parlance as Christians, call themselves Christians, and are explicitly defined as Christian in dictionaries, encyclopedias, and so forth. Various small minorities of these hundreds of millions claim that a certain subset (not including themselves, of course) are not Christian, for some doctrinal reason no one outside their subset gives a shit about. Other small minorities make exactly the same claim for exactly opposite reasons, about a different subset (usually including the first small minority).
There are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you believe in evolution, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you believe in the Trinity, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you don’t believe in the Trinity, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you are willing to marry a non-Christian, there used to be people who argued that you are not a true Christian if you shaved your beard.
What do all these groups have in common? Two things.
1) THEY ARE BORING AND STUPID.
2) NO ONE ELSE CARES.
::reads Cassandra’s comment, realizes she doesn’t exist, disappears in a poof of smoke::
“You’re arguing by definition alone, and your definition, obviously, is not one that everyone accepts. You can get your sphincter tight about that all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are not, in any way, shape or form, the final authority on these matters.”
It’s not my definition. You argue as if I somehow made up my own definition, but I didn’t. The definition I use comes from widely accepted, long-standing (hundreds of years) Christian tradition. Not surprised you have to resort to lying about me, though. You have to in order to have any semblance of an argument.
But if zie screams enough someone might care! Admittedly that strategy isn’t working very well so far, but hey, points for effort.
And here’s a post by Beale, on his blog, in which he does a wonderful impression of being a racist asshole.
Deepest apologies to the regulars, I wouldn’t recommend reading it unless one is convinced that Beale isn’t a racist asshole. It is full of vileness. And trigger warning, for vile racist sexist bullshit.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/06/a-black-female-fantasist.html?m=1
But you said — oh right I forgot, manosphere trolls worship the dictionary, so recognizing analogous phrasing is impossible for them.
Anyway, carry on with your snooty conjecture; it hasn’t stopped being funny quite yet.
“There are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you believe in evolution, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you believe in the Trinity, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you don’t believe in the Trinity, there are people out there who argue that you are not a true Christian if you are willing to marry a non-Christian, there used to be people who argued that you are not a true Christian if you shaved your beard.”
Evolution, marrying non-Christians, and shaving beards are not core doctrines of Christianity.
::realizes her delicious frittatas are proof of her existence, reappears in another puff of smoke, sticks tongue out at Cassandra while existing all over the place::
Yo if we’re all a bunch of lying joke hypocrites and we don’t understand anything, why are you even here?
Who are you even talking to?
I may allow for the existence of hedgehogs if they offer up a food that’s a bit less egg-focused.
How about a nice stir fry? What sort of protein would you prefer in it?
“And here’s a post by Beale, on his blog, in which he does a wonderful impression of being a racist asshole.”
Where, exactly? I see him responding to someone who truly is a racist asshole and is making racist statements about white people. (But we all know that racism against white people is perfectly acceptable.) Oh, right. You call him that solely because of the cherry-picked phrase “half-savage,” even though that phrase was obviously used in reference to her demeanor, not her race.
jinxmchue: Trinitarians are all Nicene Creed Christians. But the creed didn’t come about until hundreds of years AFTER the events alleged in the Gospels. (Find me a description of the Holy Ghost in the Gospels, by the by. Hell, find me a direct reference to the Trinity as such.) Anyone who interprets the Gospels in a different fashion, which many of the fragmented cults at the time did, is still a Christian; they’re just not a Nicenean Christian.
Any form of protein other than shellfish is acceptable within the framework of the One True Atheism.
“Yo if we’re all a bunch of lying joke hypocrites and we don’t understand anything, why are you even here?”
It amuses me to watch ignorant, hateful buffoons dig themselves into very deep holes that they can’t escape.
And now the NO TRUE RACIST argument arrives. You rarely see all of these fallacies at the same watering hole.
I blame global warming.
Eggs are NO TRUE PROTEIN. So it is written.
You don’t like shellfish, or you’re allergic? (Or you’re an atheist who won’t eat shellfish for religious reasons?)
I won’t eat most shellfish because they remind me of bugs. But as jink will be glad to know, I make exceptions for two things: a really good crab cake, and Yang Chow’s slippery shrimp. NO TRUE HYPOCRITE!!!
“It is an objective truth that jinxy’s grammar is perfect. (Please remember to wear a bib – you’re getting spittle all over the rug.)”
This is quickly becoming quite boring. The straw man arguments are rather worn out.
So I’ll do a nice stir fry with chicken, unless you’re good with tofu. Anything else you’d like in there?