Well, this is depressing. The Raw Story is reporting that
An Ohio University sophomore has deactivated her social media accounts and is afraid to leave her house after she was falsely identified as the woman who reported she’d been raped in an incident captured on cell phone video by a passerby.
The student, Rachel Cassidy, now falsely accused of being a false rape accuser, has had her personal information — not just her name but her address, the name of her sorority, her social media accounts, even her Pinterest page — listed on a Men’s Rights site called Crimes Against Fathers. (I won’t link to it.)
The man behind Crimes Against Fathers? None other than the notorious Men’s Rights extremist and crackpot Peter Andrew Nolan — or, as he prefers to be known, for reasons I don’t fully understand, Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) . Apparently taking inspiration from Paul Elam’s Register-Her.com, Nolan’s site does what Register-Her only threatened to do: it actually releases the personal information of those it identifies as “Man-Hating Women.” He will even add names of women you don’t like to the list for a fee of $70 (Australian).
So far the site has several hundred women listed, most of them apparently women who have run afoul of Nolan or his most active lieutenant on the site, the pseudonymous “John Rambo” of “Boycott American Women” fame, either online or in real life. In most cases, luckily, the amount of personal information given out is relatively scanty and the number of people who’ve actually viewed the posts (which is listed on the site) has been small.
That’s not the case with Cassidy, whose life Nolan and “Rambo” have set out to ruin as thoroughly as they can. In addition to her personal information, the site has also dug up an assortment of pictures of her scraped from various sites on the internet.
And, unwilling to believe that she is not the woman in the video — and a false accuser of rape — the two have taken aim at those who’ve stepped forward to defend Cassidy. They’ve posted the personal information of Jenny Hall-Jones, the Dean of Students at Ohio University, for the “crime” of publicly saying that Cassidy is not the woman in the video, as well as several other women who’ve come out in support of Cassidy.
On Crimes Against Fathers, “Rambo” writes
[C]onsidering that women will always try to cover for their fellow women, and will NEVER hold their fellow women accountable, there is a very strong possibility that Jenny [Hall-Jones]Â is LYING and that Rachel Cassidy IS the girl in that video. This means that Jenny Hall-Jones is a CRIMINAL because she is covering up for the CRIME of making a false rape accusation. Therefore, she is a criminal and needs to be publicly exposed as such.
Neither “Rambo” nor Nolan has leveled similar accusations against Ohio University president Roderick McDavis, a man, though he too has said that the woman in the video is not Cassidy.
Men’s Rights activists like to say that Nolan isn’t really one of them. If this is the case, they should be willing to stand up and denounce his reprehensible actions, and the very idea of his Crimes Against Fathers “Man-Hating Women” directory.
EDITED TO ADD: I should note that Nolan’s site also has a “Name and Shame the IgnorMANuses” forum directed at alleged man-hating men, including Vince Gilligan (creator of Breaking Bad) and Nacho Vidal (the pseudonymous dude behind MGTOWforums.com). The list is considerably smaller than that of the Man-Hating Women directory, and none of the entries I saw listed any personal information that went much beyond links to Facebook pages.
Stacy, the reason you are not helping, is that by a lot of those rules, I wasn’t raped. By encouraging ideas of “legit rape” and making false accusations a bigger deal than support, you encourage grilling ALL rape survivors about their experience — which I get already, thanks. I don’t want your help, or your consideration for me over false accusations. You’re just encouraging other people to grill me more, and I’ve had enough of that.
Stacey: Want to know how I got away? I joined the military.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m sorrier you had to join the military to get away. I hope it was good for you.
What was your branch? MOS/rate?
Pecunium — “On the flip side, gang rapes, where the rapists get away with it, even in the light of what ought to be damning evidence… happen on a regular basis.”
Well, idk how many have to be involved to call it gang rape, or just how damning the evidence needs to be, but know some of the major reasons I didn’t file charges that time?
1) I was 19 and fall down drunk, and not prepared to deal with the fall out of underage drinking, nor that I would just be told it was my fault for being so drunk (you make an excellent counter to jerkbrain btw)
2) I had showered, so really, my word against theirs right? And I’d be outnumbered (hm, I wonder which town that was legally in…cops here really want to arrest him for SOMETHING since they could never make possession charges stick)
Point there? Defining “legit rape” and calling others false discourages people from filling reports. Particularly if they may be unprovable.
LBT, auggz – there seems to be some confusion here. I asked Stacey why she’s siding with MRAs with their ‘false accusation’ cries.
Stacey: I’m not saying that there should be certain criteria for it to be considered a legit rape,
No, you just think there are things which a “legitimate” rape needs. Stranger in a dark ally, done in private, no witnesses. You don’t believe that someone who is intoxicated can wake up in the morning to realise she was raped.
I do think that those folks that make false claims should somehow be held accountable for it. Be it jail time or a harsh monetary penalty.
Because? Oh right, because there is an epidemic of false rape in this country, why it’s as high as the false reporting rape for any other crime. We need a campaign, some serious police effort should be set putting these heinous women away. How dare they think that not giving consent is rape. Who do they think they are going to the police and reporting it.
We need to wage a war on it, bring to an end, like we did with the War on Drugs.
That would help victims of rape because there would be a lot less of these fake claims of it and would help out those that were raped. It would help those victims out because they wouldn’t feel like they had to keep hiding behind the pain.
Yeah. I mean think how much safer a woman will feel taking her rape to the cops. After all, if they decide there isn’t enough evidence to take it to the DA, or if the DA doesn’t think a conviction is likely (what, you think they get a 90 percent conviction rate by prosecuting every case they get? Pull the other one, it’s got bells on), she might have an angry rapist (or the victim of an honest mistake; people choose the wrong person in lineups pretty frequently) deciding to take his case to the DA, and then she might have jury of people like you (who think that sex is the expectable, and legitimate, result of, “a night of debauchery).
Yeah, I can’t see how any one might decide to “hide behind the pain” if that was what might happen.
Ah, gotcha. But yeah, still, SO not appreciating this Stacey person (who doesn’t seem to have been raped herself) “helping” me in such a shitty way, and then apparently not being able to fucking LISTEN, instead choosing to justify and defend herself and say how she’s suffered trauma so therefore blahblahblah —
I’m actually starting to get angry, and I’m supposed to be one of the fuckers she’s trying to help!
LBT – this is precisely why I’m asking why she’s siding with MRAs and so on. She’s an out-and-out rape apologist.
Oh, Stacey. You’re really not getting it at all.
The reason that people might not believe you if you tell them that you were raped is that we live in a culture where the idea that women lie about rape on a routine basis is both commonplace and vigorously defended. You’re defending it yourself and you don’t even realize it.
The way you’re acting in this very thread is the reason rape victims are often not believed. Chew on that idea for a while.
Honestly, I’ve run into so many people spouting bullshit about rape, be they “helping” me or not, that I doubt I could get much surprised by anything anymore. It comes from other survivors, bystanders, well-meaning people… it comes from everyone, not just the stereotypical assholes.
Also, if you want to help male rape victims, repeating the myths about female rape victims isn’t going to do them any good either, because they end up getting some of the same crap combined with toxic myths about masculinity.
Ms. Powers wrote:
“Am I making sense now? Can we stop with the witch hunt?”
No, not making sense now. And please, we don’t hunt witches here, madame, we’re just accustomed to sifting through lots of poop.
Wait, aren’t we all witches who want to kill our children? I know it must be true because Pat Robertson said so.
I’m guessing that was a really clumsy way to try to reference the stat about most women being raped by men who they know rather than strangers?
Witches cast spells that get men in trouble for no good reason, apparently.
I’m going with not too bright rather than trolling at this point, but may change my mind later.
I think she’s assuming that if people see a rape in progress, of COURSE the victim will be kicking and screaming and fighting hard enough that bystanders will get involved… otherwise it doesn’t count.
Which. Uh. If only.
Didn’t the Steubenville rape take place essentially in public?
Not to mention every goddamn time a football team (for instance) gang-rapes a girl or woman at one of their end of year parties. Everyone there knows it’s happening, nobody does a thing about it.
Or when harassment scaling up to rape happens at conferences, and the bystanders do nothing about it, at least partly because they’ve been groomed to see such behaviour as normal.
I’m making one last post here because I’m getting sick and tired of my words being twisted into things that are being “implied”:
I do not condone rape in any way, shape, or form. On top of that, you don’t know me or what I’ve been through myself. Quit twisting my words to suit your agendas. Rape culture needs to go DIAF in my opinion.
Tell me- what’s worse? Someone that puts out a false rape claim because they are trying to get back at someone or someone that doesn’t want to report it because they fear that no one will believe them? In a way, I think both are equally bad:
1) Someone that could be completely innocent is being charged with something they may or may not have done. And while they are rare, they do happen. They just don’t get as much media attention as this particular case did (especially here in Ohio- given the situation). In this case, not only was one life almost ruined by a false accusation, another life was ruined because of people making assumptions.
2) Someone that was innocent but was at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong situation has their life ruined. However, I can understand why someone wouldn’t talk about it when I think they should.
On the out in public thing, do you know how extremely rare it is for a rape to happen in front of everyone and their mom? Also, I’m completely sickened by the whole Ariel Castro ordeal- that man deserved to be castrated.
Also, to answer someone’s question: Marine Corps, 0151 (Admin), got out an E3 (to be honest my last year, I just wanted out).
But, no go ahead, continue insulting me and telling me “You don’t know what you’re talking about.” I was trying to have a civil conversation here- not being accused of siding with the MRM.
If you don’t condone rape, stop using terms like “legitimate rape”, stop using one of the MRM’s favourite talking points (“false accusations”), stop talking as if there are hard-and-fast rules about where, when and how rapes are committed, and how victims react.
I don’t doubt you don’t want to support rape culture, but that’s exactly what you’re doing.
Other rape victims here have told you you’re not helping. Your desire for a “civil conversation” doesn’t seem to stretch as far as actually listening to them, does it?
I’m a feminist. I don’t believe anyone deserves to be castrated.
RE: Stacey
I was trying to have a civil conversation here
Civil, but not respectful. Learn the difference, and come back.
And if you think that I don’t deserve respect… then what exactly would I want your help FOR, in regards to fighting rape culture?
@ sparky
“you also find Nolan & co. treatment of Cassidy and Hall-Jones, both of whom had absolutely nothing to do with they videotape, completely reprehensible? ”
I actually do think it’s wrong. It probably classifies more as a misidentification than a false accusation because IMO there is enough to support a charge of a false rape report. There is definitely enough to investigate it as a false claim. I’ve seen no indication that this was done. Nolan’s actions border on reprehensible because they haven’t (as yet) set the record straight.
“Yes, indeed, the person filing the report must knowingly and maliciously make the false report.”
Yet what Cloudiah hasn’t explained is how taking her claim that she doesn’t remember anything as gospel truth (because you can’t get inside her head, my assumption) is any different from an accused rapist saying it was my belief that she consented, which would negate criminal intent, because we can’t get inside his head (my assumption). No feminist I know of would say he denies criminal intent, only he knows what he intended, so therefor he’s not guilty. Why then is the crime of false rape accusations held to a different standard?
Infer her intend from other pieces of evidence including the accused rapists’ testimony, witness testimony, and the video evidence. I’m assuming the accused claims she consented. Why would there not be enough to bring a charge? This is the question Cloudiah chooses to ignore.