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A Voice for Men’s DriverSuz: “Male care and compassion for women is why women don’t live in barns and pens with the cows, pigs and chickens.”

So I’ve been skimming through the mass of comments that the Daily Beast piece on the Men’s Rightsers now has trailing in its wake. So far I think this is my favorite exchange.

AngryHarry 10 hours ago  If the men throughout history had not been concerned about their women, they would have bred them like cattle, (Who could have stopped them?)  But every single ancestor - stretching back to time immemorial - of every feminist on this forum was protected from death by, mostly, men.    Every single one of them.  We are lucky to exist at all.  Worth thinking about. FlagShare 3LikeReply driversuz 9 hours ago  @AngryHarry   Absolutely correct. Male care and compassion for women is why women don't live in barns ans pens with the cows, pigs and chickens. No external entity prevented men from forcing us to live like farm animals and from socializing us to be relatively comfortable with it.

Yep, that’s DriverSuz — aka Suzanne McCarley, “Senior Editor” of A Voice for Men.

And yep, that’s Angry Harry, the fellow that many MRAs call “the father of the men’s rights movement.”

Some critics of this blog complain whenever I quote some crackpot commenter rather than one of the “big names” in the Men’s Rights movement. Sometimes, it turns out, the crackpot commenters ARE the “big names” in the Men’s Rights movement.

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hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

rotfl Oh no, imagine trying to be sexy if someone used the word beaver. *dies*

High five for writing porn comics! I write erotic short stories from time to time for funsies, and I love reading comics, but couldn’t combine the two. No drawy talent. *sniff* And I like me some Oglaf, though I’m assuming that’s not quite the kind of comic you did?

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@tracy

that makes sense XD

blue jays! that’s what I was thinking of. vajayjay reminds me of blue jays, and that is just not sexy.

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Oo, “guillery” is an awesome alternative. Unfortunately it’s lack of use would make it pretty random in a story, but (a) another option plus (b) decent etymology = win.

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Cocks and jays! This is making me want to write some ridiculousness with an excessive amount of bird metaphors but I’m not sure I’m up to it. (Heh. Up to it.)

Tracy
Tracy
11 years ago

@hrovitnir lol not quite, no. More like someone gave me the pictures (live action shots), and I wrote the ‘story’. I use the term story very loosely. It was fun though! Got to make a lot of really, really bad puns. ::joy::

I lurv me some Oglaf! Discovered it thanks to you fine folk here 🙂

kittehserf
11 years ago

Thankfully, no-one ever used ‘beaver’ *shudder* That one confuses the hell outta me. My vagina is pretty awesome, but it cannot gnaw down trees. Not that I’ve tried…

“It’s got nasty, big, pointy teeth!”

Tracy
Tracy
11 years ago

OMG, bird! I’ve heard that used quite a bit as a euphemism for a boy’s penis. As in ‘put your birdie away Dennis, the babysitter’s here!’ Always thought that was, um, weird.

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Oo, that’s pretty awesome too Tracy. I’m trying to figure out what kind of reward to trick my tiny mammal brain into associating with achieving stuff since I have such a weird relationship with food and writing silly stories to go with random porn stills is kind of appealing.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I love Oglaf too, and found it through here as well!

Pussy’s another word I really dislike, though it’s innocuous compared to some. It’s still used misogynistically, and, I dunno, I just find it really squicky and horrible – sort of coy, and urgh. Plus, I do not like having a simple term of affection for a cat being made wellnigh unusable outside the house.

Tracy
Tracy
11 years ago

Silly stories, bad puns and porn stills are their own reward!

Tracy
Tracy
11 years ago

@kitteh the Busband and I call cats pusses, & whenever we talk about our brood we get the side-eye from some people, so I hear you.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Actually one of the silliest terms for a penis is one Louis and I made up, but at least we know it ain’t sexy and never will be. I just wish I could remember what daft conversation led to us coining it!

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@kittehs

Pussy’s another word I really dislike, though it’s innocuous compared to some. It’s still used misogynistically, and, I dunno, I just find it really squicky and horrible – sort of coy, and urgh.

Eh. I’m not for using it as an insult, but for body part descriptors I rather like it. Idk I may just be weird.

SittieKitty
11 years ago

lmao, my brain is going a mile a minute with porn made almost entirely of puns… or double entendres where it turns out all the sexual references were really just animals to begin with hehe

And as an aside, I have actually heard people irl use the word vajayjay… it was as ridiculous as I thought it would be.

Tracy
Tracy
11 years ago

@Marie I use it too, affectionately.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Tracy – yeah, I call our cats pussycats or pussencattens all the time. That’s another thing I dislike about the other meaning: is it saying cats as well as women are weak and contemptible? It’s an all-fail word re: genitals as far as I’m concerned.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Marie – nothing weird about you, it’s a totally YMMV matter of preference. 🙂

Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

People actually say vajayjay with a straight face outside of Cosmo? O_o

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Oh man, people who use pussy to talk about cats. We’ve had some older ladies do that at work and you can feel the repressed laughter of everybody around. “Pussycat” is one thing, but just “pussy” and I can’t help being amused.

Pussy is kind of a bit cutesy in the porn context, but it’s about as good as it gets really. I tend to use that, with sometimes a little bit of cunt, and a whole bunch of using descriptions to avoid having to use a word at all. Gets awfully repetitive otherwise!

SittieKitty | October 22, 2013 at 6:31 pm
lmao, my brain is going a mile a minute with porn made almost entirely of puns… or double entendres where it turns out all the sexual references were really just animals to begin with hehe

And as an aside, I have actually heard people irl use the word vajayjay… it was as ridiculous as I thought it would be.

I’m trying to work out how to make the double entendres where the sexual references were just animals work. That sounds awesome.

I really think if someone said “vajayjay” in all seriousness I wouldn’t be able to avoid wincing. Noooo. You can be all private about sex/everything related to your genitals if you like, but please get comfortable with basic biology. Please?

cloudiah
11 years ago

Hey, hrovitnir, hi!

Are you people talking about flame-throwing vajayjay’s again? Because if I could spit fire from mine, that would be awesome.

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Hi cloudiah! Hmm, flame throwing vaginas sound amazing but in practice that could be uncomfortable. Where would you store the propellant?? I saw such a relevant cartoon the other day, but can I find it now? Nope. 🙁

kittehserf
11 years ago

LOL cloudiah, no, that would be great, though!

Mind you it’d make fireproof underthings a must.

SittieKitty
11 years ago

People actually say vajayjay with a straight face outside of Cosmo? O_o

Well, they did, until I gave them a funny look and they blushed and used the word proper.

I’m trying to work out how to make the double entendres where the sexual references were just animals work. That sounds awesome.

I totally want to make this now… Maybe I will and will post it someday and it’ll be a reference to this thread and people will be like wtf did I just read because we’ll have moved on so far it will be only me who remembers and sits here laughing at myself… hehe.

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
11 years ago

Win there, SittieKitty. Make ’em blush! Interesting that they did though, makes you wonder which they would prefer to use if they didn’t anticipate judgement.

I love the idea of totally out of left field sexy-pun-randomness. My brain is constantly attuned to references to strange videos I like, that I absolutely cannot explain when I laugh or quote it in not-my-partner company. 😛

cloudiah
11 years ago

Sorry for that misplaced apostrophe up there.

And yes, many of the technical details for my flame-throwing wonder-bits need to be worked out. I’m sure modern science can handle it.

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