So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella named dzogen came by to vent about his unfair divorce.
Seems his “freeloader and loser” of an ex-wife — a former drug addict — sits around the house eating bon bons while happily collecting $2500 a month in child support for the five year old kid they had together. Also, she treats him with disrespect. “Meanwhile,” the poor fella wrote, for an added dose of pathos, “I have to survive on PB&J.”
*cough*shitthatneverhappened*cough*
Dzogen ended his post with a wish, and a bit of advice for the rest of the guys reading his tale of woe:
I can only hope karma will get her in the end as I have no options to address the fact that legally men have to bend over and take it by their ex’s, legally sanctioned by anti-success, anti-male laws.
My moral of story: Don’t ever get married. It’s a bad deal for men.
Naturally, the helpful fellas of the Men’s Rights subreddit stepped in with some suggestions for how poor Dzogen could improve his sad life. Naturally, there were those who suggested that he (and the other men who shared their own stories of divorce gone wrong) flee the country “and leave her worthless ass high and dry.”(Just load up the comments there and do a find on the page for the word “leave” to find many more.)
But there were others with more, erm, direct suggestions. Like Justin here:
Huh. A dozen upvotes for a literal call for murder.
And then there was this exchange, in which a comment advocating murder received not one but two dozen upvotes, and those who criticized it got downvotes:
![cleetdog101 24 points 14 hours ago (41|17) Whats her drug of choice? If its coke, smack or crank, you could always look to spike her fix. Not that difficult - Next thing you know - you have the kid and an extra $2,500 a month. permalink source parent save give gold hide child comments [–]Redundantgaming 0 points 3 hours ago (1|1) No half measures. Only full measures. permalink source save parent give gold [–]fuckingidiotjunky -2 points 12 hours ago (6|8) I can't believe this is upvoted permalink source save parent give gold [–]thegreatbeyond50 4 points 11 hours ago (9|5) There's not alot of things that would drive me to want to murder someone. Completely destroying my life would be one of them. permalink source save parent give gold [–]Mythandros -3 points 10 hours ago (9|12) That's pretty dark, dude. Resorting to murder? Even implied as a joke, that's just in bad taste. Are you sure you belong here? Because I'm not sure that you do. Please leave, I don't want people like you, who encourage the most deplorable of acts posting on a board that is supposed to be about positive change and support to those who need it. You taint /r/mensrights by being here. permalink source save parent give gold [–]lIllIlIIlIlI 5 points 10 hours ago (11|6) Who died and made you king of morality?](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/mrdeletedmurder.png?resize=532%2C513&ssl=1)
This particular exchange has since been deleted by Reddit admins or the subreddit’s mods.
But numerous other calls for murder remain up as of this writing, including Justin’s comment above, and this one from Kappies10:
This one from Pecanpig:
This one from the cheerily named HoneyPuffBear:
This delicately worded suggestion from eloquentlnemesis:
Oh, and this one from Skyrimnewb, although it isn’t literally a call for murder:
The Men’s Rights subreddit: A place good men in trouble men with fake stories can turn to for help suggestions to kill the bitch.
Thanks to the good folks of the Against Men’s Rights subreddit for pointing me to this thread and most of the terrible quotes here.
Cassandra — I perpetually have a hot beverage of some sort, even when it’s 100+ out (I hate iced coffee)…it’s just that electric kettles are not a thing around here. Fuck, I only know they exist because Ducky on NCIS uses one!
Wait, are we talking a normal boring stove top kettle for that much?!
@ Argenti
If you’re ever in California I’m totally taking you to 99 Ranch and/or a Japanese market so you can get a cheap electric kettle. You wouldn’t even need to go downstairs to the kitchen at night and risk the wrath of your dad if you had one.
I’m thinking it might. I would like to see what I’m buying first, just to check the spout, but I might well see something here and buy it cheaper on Amazon or whatever. It’s not like buying locally means it was made locally …
Kitteh, meet kettle; kettle, please make kitteh happy.
Cassandra — it’d work for tea, but the coffee grinder could wake the dead! I could totally go for real Japanese food though.
Argenti – nope, these are electric kettle prices, but the fancy stove-top ones are just as bad. Le Creuset at David Jones (overpriced department store): $189.
If you’re worried about mum leaving the power on and starting a fire…well, not that I’d recommend this, but I once fell asleep at my MILs house and forgot I’d left the kettle on downstairs, and when I finally woke up the enamel on the kettle was a bit singed and the bottom needed scrubbing/wasn’t as pretty afterwards, but no fire. It was one of the Le Creuset enamel on cast iron ones, which go for anything from $60-80 here.
Kitteh — amazon’s got a whole category for the electric ones, surely you could find something?
And see, that’s what I mean. There’s a $100 difference in price – why? I mean, obviously they need to be imported, but they’re imported here too.
Cassandra – it’s less starting a fire than burning herself, with leaving the rings on (not to mention using a ton of electricity). The poor kettle that got burned out, well, we had the toxic stench of melted plastic in the house until Fribbie neutralised it with Power Poo, but there wasn’t any fire resulting from it … just a stove ring with baked-on plastic coating.
Argenti, yeah, I’m thinking Amazon or suchlike are the places to look.
Also, electric kettles seem to be inflated in price in the US just because so few people buy them. If you want to get one for cheap it would probably be better to look at online stores in the UK.
Retail prices here are always sky-high. It’s partly ‘cos we’re a very small market, I think, with little competition; there’s simply nothing like the variety or number of stores of any given type that you get in the UK or US. It’s boggling when I visit and see how much stuff can be bought there. Our population’s around 23 million, I think – tiny and thinly stretched out (Melbourne’s our second-biggest city and has about 4 million). I don’t know if shipping costs here are that high; given how much stuff is imported from China, you wouldn’t think so. But the manufacturers/retailers do a nice job of complaining about high Australian wages while getting their stuff made/sourced overseas and still charging huge prices. Then they complain that people buy stuff on the Net and want to be able to slap a tax on that and claim it for themselves!
If you’re comfy with eBay that might be an option too. There are real stores on there now, it’s not all just individual merchants selling their old stuff.
I guess in terms of price you guys have the same stuff has to be imported = costs more issue that, say, Japan has, but without the huge population density to offset it a bit.
Hmm, that’s a thought – if I got a kettle on Amazon it’d probably have to be stove-top. Different voltages in the US and here.
Japan cops this shit, too? ::smh::
Generally things cost way more in Japan than in the UK. The market segment where I find the difference most alarming is food, though. My buddy from Hokkaido says that some friends of hers who live in Tokyo only eat one meal a day, because it’s a choice between a second meal or going out and doing stuff – can’t afford to do both. Last time she was home she was charged $25 for a plate of noodles at a Chinese restaurant that would have been about $6-8 here, complained about it for months afterwards.
Though, to be fair, the price difference in non-food items is sometimes justified by a difference in quality – jeans are an example where I’d say the price difference is totally justifiable.
$25 for a plate of noodles! Shit, that’s bad, and our food prices are high enough. I had eggs Benedict and a cup of coffee that came to $18 the other day. A frozen lasagne that allegedly feeds four (ha) is $9 at our supermarket, and the price is lower there than it’d be in a wealthier suburb. A packet of three sandwich halves at 7-11 is $7, and that’s very cheap for sandwiches now.
kitteh. I got a nifty Breville kettle a few months ago. Just what I needed at the time, mr in hospital so the kettle blew up and I had no stove either because the kitchen was in the middle of throw everything out, build everything new process.
It was on special at Myers though. I reckon I paid $40 or $50ish for it. It’s been marvelous and I lurve the way the lid works. I suspect that the main reason is that the new tap has a constant flow water filter. Anyone who’s ever had Adelaide tap water knows that this is a marvel not to be sniffed at (you don’t even need to sniff to smell the chlorine when the local reservoirs have to put in extra to cope with water quality problems.)
As for the idea of a constantly boiling urn? Can’t say I’m thrilled, though I remember those old cast iron “fountains” we used to have on top of woodstoves for constantly available hot/ boiling water.
Ermagerd – so I click on “Electric kettles” on Amazon’s list, and what happens?
I get a message asking Did you mean kitties?
The Furrinati are everywhere.
@ kittehs
Sounds like your supermarket food costs are noticeably higher than here (and this is one of the more expensive parts of the US), and a bit higher than in the UK.
I don’t know how I feel about an electric kitty….
mildlymagnificent – never drunk Adelaide water, but I know its reputation!
Worst water I’ve ever drunk would be a toss-up between London water (tasted like it’d had glue boiled in it) or Portland’s arterial water (which tasted like it should have had glue boiled in it).
I should look for some Breville stuff.
But again, to be fair, I live in pretty much the exact opposite of a food desert. You might want to look at food costs in, say, Chicago for a fairer comparison.