So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella named dzogen came by to vent about his unfair divorce.
Seems his “freeloader and loser” of an ex-wife — a former drug addict — sits around the house eating bon bons while happily collecting $2500 a month in child support for the five year old kid they had together. Also, she treats him with disrespect. “Meanwhile,” the poor fella wrote, for an added dose of pathos, “I have to survive on PB&J.”
*cough*shitthatneverhappened*cough*
Dzogen ended his post with a wish, and a bit of advice for the rest of the guys reading his tale of woe:
I can only hope karma will get her in the end as I have no options to address the fact that legally men have to bend over and take it by their ex’s, legally sanctioned by anti-success, anti-male laws.
My moral of story: Don’t ever get married. It’s a bad deal for men.
Naturally, the helpful fellas of the Men’s Rights subreddit stepped in with some suggestions for how poor Dzogen could improve his sad life. Naturally, there were those who suggested that he (and the other men who shared their own stories of divorce gone wrong) flee the country “and leave her worthless ass high and dry.”(Just load up the comments there and do a find on the page for the word “leave” to find many more.)
But there were others with more, erm, direct suggestions. Like Justin here:
Huh. A dozen upvotes for a literal call for murder.
And then there was this exchange, in which a comment advocating murder received not one but two dozen upvotes, and those who criticized it got downvotes:
![cleetdog101 24 points 14 hours ago (41|17) Whats her drug of choice? If its coke, smack or crank, you could always look to spike her fix. Not that difficult - Next thing you know - you have the kid and an extra $2,500 a month. permalink source parent save give gold hide child comments [–]Redundantgaming 0 points 3 hours ago (1|1) No half measures. Only full measures. permalink source save parent give gold [–]fuckingidiotjunky -2 points 12 hours ago (6|8) I can't believe this is upvoted permalink source save parent give gold [–]thegreatbeyond50 4 points 11 hours ago (9|5) There's not alot of things that would drive me to want to murder someone. Completely destroying my life would be one of them. permalink source save parent give gold [–]Mythandros -3 points 10 hours ago (9|12) That's pretty dark, dude. Resorting to murder? Even implied as a joke, that's just in bad taste. Are you sure you belong here? Because I'm not sure that you do. Please leave, I don't want people like you, who encourage the most deplorable of acts posting on a board that is supposed to be about positive change and support to those who need it. You taint /r/mensrights by being here. permalink source save parent give gold [–]lIllIlIIlIlI 5 points 10 hours ago (11|6) Who died and made you king of morality?](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/mrdeletedmurder.png?resize=532%2C513&ssl=1)
This particular exchange has since been deleted by Reddit admins or the subreddit’s mods.
But numerous other calls for murder remain up as of this writing, including Justin’s comment above, and this one from Kappies10:
This one from Pecanpig:
This one from the cheerily named HoneyPuffBear:
This delicately worded suggestion from eloquentlnemesis:
Oh, and this one from Skyrimnewb, although it isn’t literally a call for murder:
The Men’s Rights subreddit: A place good men in trouble men with fake stories can turn to for help suggestions to kill the bitch.
Thanks to the good folks of the Against Men’s Rights subreddit for pointing me to this thread and most of the terrible quotes here.
I like whipped kraft peanut butter. it’s pretty nummy. I don’t like hazelnut though so nutella can not come near me and y’all can have it.
Our oldest son has peanut allergy, so we’ve had a peanut-free household for over a decade. Sometimes, when I’m out, I’ll get a peanut candy and just nom that leguminous goodness down like a starving man.
What? Why are you looking at me like that?
Kitteh’s: I guess Skippy does sound like that. Brand’s been around forever here.
I sometimes hear divorce clients proffer the argument that they shouldn’t have to pay so much for the damn kid, she just bought a car fergodsake! She has enough money!
I just I AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH
My favorite part is the thing about “Don’t ever get married”. He seems to be confusing the fact he was married with the requirement he pay child support. Here’s a helpful hint: don’t matter if you’re married or not, yo, you have a kid, you have child support, dumbass.
Seriously, dumbass.
And to all the haters on PB&J, I’ll see you in hell.
“Don’t conceive” is essential advice for any of these MRA douchebags (and douchebags of whatever sex in general, of course). It’s so clear they don’t love the kids, don’t want what’s best for them, don’t want to be fathers. That’s assuming there’s any truth in any of their stories, of course, which is a leap of faith in itself.
Really, these guys would be best off just wanking into a sock with some money stashed in the end.
cloudiah, for some reason I missed that dog eating peanut butter video before – LOL too funny!
[Content note: rape]
Ah, yes, yet another MRA who implicitly uses rape as a metaphor for misfortune – on a forum that is claimed to be part of a movement that is aimed at helping men, many of whom are rape victims themselves who are seeking a supportive safe space. But I guess not using language that is triggering for many male rape victims is for manginas, right?
The whole thread was very upsetting because of the advocacy of murder, the obvious misogyny, etc. but the above quote honestly stands out to me because it’s just a blatant example of how shitty MRAs are towards the group they claim to support. They are so fucking awful that they don’t even care about being kind to men who are triggered by certain kinds of language. Moreover, I know male rape victims, and I can’t bear to imagine them looking for support only to stumble upon a discussion in which people make jokes about rape with explicit language, blame men for being raped, use misogynistic slurs against them, and casually say shit that is triggering to many male victims. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. “MHRM” my ass. “Compassion for men and boys” my ass. They couldn’t possibly be worse supporters of men.
I never really ate much PB (and especially not with jam–with mashed-up bananas on toast is divine, though. Also, with honey). Peanuts are off my diet now, but sunbutter (made with sunflower seeds) makes a fantastic Thai-ish sauce for meats. Mixed up with garlic, ginger, red pepper flakes, fish sauce, and possibly coconut milk. And maybe coconut aminos (grain and legume free soy sauce substitute). I could probably look up the actual recipe, if I weren’t so comfy.
@hellkell
Perhaps you can consider turning the jar upside down – that should cause the oil to distribute throughout the jar so that there isn’t any 1 inch layer of oil. That’s what I’ve heard, at least. I haven’t tried that suggestion myself.
And now you’re trying to get them to bruise themselves in intimate areas (or get papercuts, depending). Misandry!
Don’t child support payments legally end when the child turns 18? (Excluding college, which it sounds like this guy has zero intention of paying for). It’s not exactly a lifetime commitment.
#Istandwithpeanutbutter
Bonus!
These guys are the fucking limit. What serious human rights group goes around casually advocating murder? None, that’s how many. It’s absolutely disgusting and, to be honest, it kind of scares me.
It helps, but make sure you put it in a bowl, because sometimes the oil leaks out before slowly migrating back to the top. And then you have a cupboard that smells like peanut butter.
I used to have to make peanut butter at a health food store I worked at. It was just plain roasted peanuts that we ground up in a PB machine. I couldn’t eat PB for years afterward. The smell would just permeate everything. Ech.
These are the same d00dz who demand to know
If he is so abusive why doesn’t she just leave.
I’m just kind of ignoring the fact that there are people in the world who think murdering someone who’s inconveniencing them is a good, nay, ONLY solution.
It’s not a solution, it’s an excuse.
Definitely. They’d be just as happy murdering women in any circumstances.
Cannot deal with OP but…
“Do MRA children devour their parents when they come of age or something?”
Yes, it’s a reverse Zeus, call Freud.
::snerk:: is this why MRAs are so scared of children, ‘cos they think they’re gonna be eaten when the kid gets old enough?
Sounds good to me.
Speaking of Freud, I was wondering last night who had the more repellent personality: him or Rand?
I read that as “from” kangaroos and then I laughed and felt bad for laughing.
And Alice, I am in serious need of a PB an’ N sandwhich with some milk right now.
caurien, I’m not gonna lie, it does scare me. We’ve seen angry men kill their ex wives before, a group that calls itself the “Men’s Rights Movemement” encouraging that, in even a joking way (which I am not convinced this was), is the last thing the world needs. The MRM has been hinting that violence is the only solution for a while now. Another École Polytechnique situation is going to happen unless they start giving a shit about the kind of garbage being talked about in their name and denouncing it.
kittehs – DAMN IT WHY DID YOU MAKE IT SO HARD?!
[Freudian implications not intended.]
baileyrenee – I have a lot of milk, now I need some PB n’ N. Share?
Don’t you think that’s the goal?
Sounds like a giant mess waiting to happen, because peanut butter isn’t hugely absorptive. I’ll stick to my kangaroo butter.