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“ManSlug is a vile subhuman thing” and other insights from the Men’s Rights subreddit

This is apparently how MRAs think feminism works
Feminism brings another manling into the fold

I’ve learned a lot about myself in the process of writing this blog. For example, this week, I learned that I’m a “vile, subhuman thing” who “like licking sh*t of feminist’s shoes” and “just wants every man cuckolded.” Also, I have some interesting and specific tastes in porn that even I was unaware of.

I learned all of these things from the always reliable purveyors of accurate and unbiased information in the Men’s Rights subreddit, in a thread ostensibly devoted to my coverage of the recent events in Toronto, but which ended up being more devoted to my various alleged failings and my alleged preferences in the porn realm.

Let’s take a look!

Here’s a man who is evidently also a pig suggesting that I am a man who is also a slug:

pigslug

But ThePigmanAgain was too late! For I was able to steal EIGHTEEN WHOLE TRAFFICS from the Men’s Rights subreddit that day before the moderators removed this thread from the subreddit, lest any more unwary Men’s Rightsers wander into my evil internet lair where they might find writing critical of the men’s rights movement and its farcical attempts at activism.

Evidently Alisdair isn’t one of those who actually clicked on the link to my post in the thread, because he apparently believes that my post was a do-it-yourself guide to cuckolding other men, or perhaps a guide to getting cuckolded. I’m not sure..

Alisdair_ 1 point 3 days ago* (3|2)  Oh jeez, another one of those who just wants every man cuckolded.

And then there’s JayBopara, a MHRA warrior who seems a bit obsessed with what he for some reason believes are my preferences, porn-wise:

JayBopara [S] -2 points 4 days ago (5|7)  This guy David Futrelle like licking sh*t of feminist's shoes, so this sort of article was predictable. My understanding is he also likes mangina porn. This guy Futrelle is the pits, and the sad thing is, there are so many pathetic manginas exactly like him out there. With so many manginas, I doubt the MHRM will gain too much traction. But here's hoping.      permalink     source     save     give gold     hide child comments  [–]Dronelisk 2 points 3 days ago (6|4)  ok fine no need to insult the author lest we fall into the same category as feminists and their ad hominem logical fallacies.  wait did I just do that too?      permalink     source     save     parent     give gold  [–]JayBopara [S] 2 points 3 days ago (4|2)  The reason I said those remarks was somewhere I read, and some places he posted he indicated a liking for mangina porn. Therefore I don't believe I've made an ad hominem attack. It appears from my research there is a link with people who are political manginas and those who like mangina pornography.

These comments of his raise a few questions for me.

1) Where exactly is he allegedly reading about my alleged preferences in porn? The MakeStuffUpAboutDavidFutrelleWiki?

2) What on earth is “mangina porn,” anyway?

Asked this very question in the thread itself, Jay has this answer:

JayBopara [S] 2 points 3 days ago (2|0)  Mangina porn = femdom porn. Sorry if you guys didn't understand that. Porn which often is not about sex, as it is about women debasing, humiliating and violently abusing men. Apparently manginas get off on this porn. Mangina porn has nothing to do with transexuals or anything like that.  Man·gi·na -noun- 1. A women-firster. 2. A pussy-worshipper. 3. A male who behaves or acts toward men in an overly aggressive way once feminist Maxims are questioned.

Ah.

Dude, hate to break it to you, but I’m pretty sure that you’re the only person in the universe who calls that “mangina porn.”

Also, despite the similarities in the first three letters of the words, and the involvement of women in each, there is no real connection between “feminism” and “femdom.” One is a social and political movement; the other is a kink.

Anyway, this is how the HUMAN RIGHTS MOVEMENT FOR MEN AND BOYS OF THE 21ST CENTURY deals with its critics.

Well, its male critics anyway. It treats its female critics much, much worse.

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eseldbosustow
8 years ago

Yeah, my critics usually don’t talk about my tastes in pornography. They just call me a cunt. Well, brevity is the soul of wit, at least.

Hyena Girl
8 years ago

What a special magical universe they live in. Do you think we can get a dictionary across the dimensional boundary so that we can figure out how this almost English language they’re using actually works?
Because I’m sure that the words they’re using don’t mean the same thing here.

Kristine
Kristine
8 years ago

Here, we see the internet’s very first instance of mangina porn:

Fascinating!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I often question Maxim. This is because, as a magazine, it’s kind of shitty.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

This means that a lot of fetish porn is “mangina” porn.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Fanfiction about punishing feminists by turning them undersea rape slaves, otoh, is totally normal and not to be mocked.

Falconer
8 years ago

Confession time — I don’t tend to question Maxims. I just tend to do whatever the nice men with the machine guns tell me to do.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

It’s located in the Library of Some Dude’s Ass, in the mythology section.

grumpycatisagirl
8 years ago

ManSlugs are okay by me. We are all Mother Earth’s children.

On that note, Happy World Animal Day to everybody. http://www.worldanimalday.org.uk/

jennydevildoll
8 years ago

When BDSM is properly done, it’s the sub who actually has control, can use safewords, stop the roleplay, etc. The play is very much about the sub’s receiving pleasure from whatever is done, as much as the dom/domme’s pleasure in giving it. So…wouldn’t that secretly make femdom porn with a male mangina sub the most alpha thing ever? OMG, everything contains it’s own contradiction!

AK
AK
8 years ago

I have to say, this is probably the first time when the guy’s further explanation was maybe a little better than I expected. I was afraid that mangina porn was something to do with trans men or something and was cringing when I started to read the explanation. Then I was kind of relieved that it was just standard-issue misogyny. 🙁

It would actually explain a lot if the MRM had been confusing femdom with feminism…

Haha, I was thinking that exactly. Poor guys, they’re just confused. I’d be pretty upset if feminism and femdom were synonymous too!

Shaenon
8 years ago

Don’t mock the research of the mangina porn guy! His knowledge of feminists’ sexual preferences is extensive:

Indeed, the only pornography many feminists support are: lesbian pornography made for a lesbian audience, male homosexual pornography, and mangina pornography. Notice how these types of pornography are pretty much NEVER complained about by the feminazi?

Also on that thread, a more sensitive MRA suggests that “mangina” be replaced with the more PC term “Uncle Tim.”

titianblue
titianblue
8 years ago

ad hominen

grumpycatisagirl
8 years ago

In general, it’s not hard to understand why “feminazis” don’t complain about a particular thing if only one person in the world seems to know what it is.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
8 years ago

Yeah, not all feminists are on the same page when it comes to pornography, MRAs. It’s a topic that can lead to a lot of acrimony between feminists.

Just like any other group, we don’t always agree with one another! It’s almost like we’re people!

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

This reads like a bunch of idiots all jacked up on sugar and staying up way past their bedtimes.

LOL at “mangina porn.”

Ally S
8 years ago

When your entire “human rights” movement consistently reminds me of my sister’s abusive ex’s personality, your movement has a problem.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

ok fine no need to insult the author lest we fall into the same category as feminists and their ad hominem logical fallacies.
wait did I just do that too?

What the hell does this guy think an ad hominem is, if he thinks he just “did that” too? Also, please, please, please learn to punctuate. I mean, hey, I suck at punctuation, I know this, I use too many commas and my sentences run on and on and on, but come on!

Man·gi·na -noun- 1. A women-firster. 2. A pussy-worshipper. 3. A male who behaves or acts toward men in an overly aggressive way once feminist Maxims are questioned.

Oh, I like that. Not because it’s particularly amusing, but I often worry about whether I’ve arrived at my views rationally, and whether they reflect reality. Now, I’ll grant you, being shown that the “enemy”‘s views are obvious nonsense born of paranoid conspiracy-theorism doesn’t automatically count as evidence that mine are sensible, but at least I know I can safely disregard their assessments of my views and just try to look at them rationally.

Oh, and feminist porn does rock, and I’ve noticed a decent bit of heterosexual feminist porn, which involves both parties being show respect and affection while getting thoroughly sexed up. Is that what they’re referring to when they talk about debasing and humiliating men, or are they getting confused over BDSM porn?

On that note, Happy World Animal Day to everybody. http://www.worldanimalday.org.uk/

Duuude… what’s a World Animal? Is that like a world boss, like you’d find in multi-planeted MMOs, or is it like…. is it like the Great A’Tuin?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Man·gi·na -noun- 1. A women-firster.

I initially read this as woman-fister, and was a bit confused as to why that would make MRAs so petulant.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Also on that thread, a more sensitive MRA suggests that “mangina” be replaced with the more PC term “Uncle Tim.”

Dudes, let’s stop using this sexist and cissexist term, okay? I have this much better alternative that appropriates Black people’s centuries-long and ongoing struggle for liberation.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I read “women-fister” also. XD

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Oh, good, I thought I was going to be the only one whose mind defaulted to the most lewd possibility.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Thirding the reading of “woman-fister.”

La Strega
8 years ago

Me three. I figured cuz I hadn’t had my coffee yet.

La Strega
8 years ago

OK, hellkell, me FOUR.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

See, I knew there was a reason I liked the crowd here so much.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

Me five… was tempted to say, but I thought I’d get funny looks. :3

grumpycatisagirl
8 years ago

Me six or seven or nine or thirteen or whatever.

Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

Yep, me too. It just makes so much more sense!

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Manboobz: come for the mockery, stay for the perverts. 🙂

MaudeLL
8 years ago

Me five.

Karalora
8 years ago

Me six. Or seven. Whatever we’re up to by now.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Truly, you are my people.

freemage
8 years ago

Behold, Mangina Kaiju Porn! http://kbspangler.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/manginakaijutumblr.jpg

(It was drawn on a whim by the artist/writer of A Girl and Her Fed, following a Twitter conversation by John Scalzi and Seanan McGuire.)

It’s just occurred to me that this might’ve been posted in one of the previous threads already, if someone else saw it, but I didn’t see it here, and it seems appropriate.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

We are the infinite perverts of manboobz. Flee, or prepare the brain bleach.

AK
AK
8 years ago

I actually had to read “woman firster” several times to notice the R. I find it hilarious that we all made the same mistake.

Howard Bannister
8 years ago

I saw it as woman firster the first time.

But now I wish I hadn’t.

dustydeste
dustydeste
8 years ago

Definitely read that as woman-fister, too. Clearly our link to the Feminist Hive Mind is working well today, sisters (and, iunno, man-sisters?)

sparky
sparky
8 years ago

I saw “firster” the first time too. What the hell is a firster?

“It appears from my research there is a link with people who are political manginas and those who like mangina porn.” I would love to be a fly on the wall when the IRB discussed that particular research proposal. Because, yeah, dude totally did the original research and didn’t just pull it out of his ass.

Athywren
Athywren
8 years ago

Clearly our link to the Feminist Hive Mind is working well today, sisters (and, iunno, man-sisters?)

Come on now, the word is shown to you above, quite clearly! We are manlings! You have sisters and manlings, we have brothers and mistresses, for we are woman-fisters and put you first in all things as it should be – as it must be!
*triumphantly subservient pose*

dustydeste
dustydeste
8 years ago

*awards Athywren a cookie*

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I have to point out that if you’re in a subservient pose you probably shouldn’t be the one doing the fisting.

Bostonian
Bostonian
8 years ago

I read it as woman fisting too.

serrana
serrana
8 years ago

But can you eat a cookie in a subservient pose?

And count me number eleventy-whatever for reading “women-fisters.” I just assumed I hadn’t had enough caffeine today.

SittieKitty
8 years ago

Freemage, it was, I definitely was thinking of that!

La Strega
8 years ago

Is it possible that so many of us read “fister” says something about our (collective) taste in porn?

dustydeste
dustydeste
8 years ago

I for one actually do not like fisting porn at all. Just not to my taste, personally. But then, I am getting less and less enamored with porn in general as time goes by (though admittedly this is largely related to my increasing inability to deal with the process of sifting through porn titles).

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

In my case it says more about what I’d have assumed MRAs might like, and was therefore surprised that they apparently didn’t.

Bogdan574
8 years ago

Mangina porn = femdom porn

You mean like the porn The Amazing Atheist watches?

baileyrenee
8 years ago

I, too, read “fister.” Anyway this is maybe TMI, but here I go…

This shaming of men who are into fem-dom is pretty disgusting. I enjoy some fem-dom myself, and the man I have been starting to practice it with would have never, ever, EVER told me he was into it if I hadn’t brought it up first (and no, lurkers, I didn’t ask him to do it or pressure him into it, I just mentioned it one night and his eyes lit up and he told me how hot it was). So many men with this kink are already ashamed of it, the last people they need shaming them further is are the so-called men’s rights advocates/activists.

Not that I’m fucking surprised or anything. Ugh, what jackasses.

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