I’ve read and watched and listened to a lot of creepy pickup artist crap over the past few years while writing this blog, but in some ways this little video, from PUA “coach” Julian of Real Social Dynamics, one of the bigger and better known of the commercial “game” marketers, may well be the creepiest. Essentially, Julian provides tips to young men on how to “get” the girl of their dreams by temporarily driving her out of her mind.
No, really: he recommends that men overwhelm their female targets with confusing and contradictory stimuli to throw them so off-balance they’ll reflexively turn to their mental tormenters for support (and, maybe later, reward them with sex). This isn’t pick-up artistry so much as freak-out artistry.
The one thing about this video that is vaguely reassuring is that Julian’s examples of his technique in action are so crude and hamhanded I seriously doubt they’d actually work on anyone “in field,” as the PUAs like to say. What’s not so reassuring is that anyone would actually come up with something this predatory and perverse in the first place. Also, you know that at least a few of the video’s 32,000 viewers have actually tried out this technique on annoyed and bewildered women around the world. The world doesn’t really need any new ways for dudes to be assholes in clubs.
“My wife has shared my bed for many years.”
Yet you say that questioning that sex is transactional is naive.
That says a whole lot of unpleasant things about you.
Plus, why aren’t you sharing her bed? Or the both of you sharing a bed?
Everything you write, whether it’s true or not, adds to the picture of you as a contemptible human being.
What? As an Official Scottish Person this smells like bullshit to me. I mean, I don’t love when random Scottish accents turn up for no apparent reason because they’re “funny” (even though I’ve never had a Scottish accent), but is the idea that a movie set in Scotland had a girl with curly red hair in it and that’s racist? Because, um, that’s really stupid.
Also “racism” isn’t the right word to talk about the various complicated and occasionally rather nasty ways that the English, Scots, Welsh etc interact with each other.
In other news, creeper in the video is a creeper. And also assuming far too much in terms of how polite women are going to be. If some stranger at a bar starts babbling nonsense at me I’m not going to humor him, I’m either going to tell him to go away or, if he doesn’t, walk away myself. And if he won’t leave me alone I will sic security on his ass.
and you say all sex is transactional…
Never said “all”. But it is quite prevalent such as the example of your parents.
Did Good just try to make a “your mama” joke and fail miserably?
LBT:
“Yeah, Good is just BORING. He’s like ExploreNature, only way less entertaining, because at least ExploreNature had the Dada randomness going for him. Even his LINKS are boring.”
Oh gods, ExploreNature!
Say, I wonder if he thought he could do this PUA spout-random-shit thing online?
Precisely. Especially considering they’re pretty much identical in background. The idea that the Celts were pushed to the margins (Scotland, Wales) and that the English are of Anglo-Saxon descent is a furphy. Genetically, about 80% of people in the island are pretty much pure Celtic; the rest have other admixtures. (I know science doesn’t preclude racism, but it’s all the more ironic in this instance.)
/Time Team sourced trivia
helkell: Yes, he also forgot what he said:
So, we have “sex is not a transaction.”
Not, “sex is never transactional” (a limiting statement), but sex, without qualification.
Good, (the brilliant rhetoritician, who claimed he doesn’t resort to base insult) didn’t make mock of that, nor did he say, “the idea that there is no transactional sex is naive”, nope, he said the idea that “sex is not a transaction” is ‘serious naivety[sic]’.
He’s not very smart, and seems to have problems with either short term memory; or the idea of checking his statements before he tries to make a zinger.
That, or he’s so used to having his gaslighting accepted that he’s phoning it in.
Good comes in defending PUAs, makes wopping generalisations about sex being transactional, then tries to say “your mother’s a prostitute” as if that means anything?
Reach harder, goodgrief, you’re really struggling here. You don’t even do insults properly. They’re not meant to make people say “Huh?” and scratch their heads in puzzlement.
RE: auggziliary
Dude, ripping off your own wife for years? That’s low.
I laughed out loud. *shakes head sadly* That poor, poor woman.
RE: Good
But it is quite prevalent such as the example of your parents.
Oh, I see you’ve met them! They must’ve ejected you from their house of good repute. Still sore, sweetums?
RE: hellkell
Did Good just try to make a “your mama” joke and fail miserably?
By god, I think he did! I almost want to give him a standing ovation, just for TRYING.
Of course there’s every likelihood that Good’s wife is inflatable, so I’d guess it is a transactional thing for him.
Oh that’s just precious. How young does he have to be to have not recognized Foghorn Leghorn’s little “you can do better boy” thing from the get go? Or is this just another case where I watched too many reruns as a kid (I mean, I do know Gillian’s Island and M*A*S*H too… [and Good feels like a three hour tour])
auggz – yup.
That made me think Good’s a kid who’s never encountered those cartoons. Pecunium’s script was instantly recognisable to me and I haven’t seen old Foghorn in forty-odd years.
Whut, ah say, whut is wrong with quoting Foghorn Leghorn? Fred Elliott did it all the time!
Good, I recommend you get off your computer and just enjoy life. Don’t hate anyone, just live. And make some lentil salad, my lentil salad’s delicious.
Oh, I know where Good goes when he disappears…wrong turn at Albuquerque!
Can someone explain to me Foghorn Leghorn? I’m not that old, so the references are escaping me right now.
Alice – one of our trolls enjoy life?
Now there’s a concept to make the head explode.
But damn do I want him to try that “yo mama” joke on my mother to her face. She’d lecture him to death!
I mean, to the point she walks into the shop and the smart tech goes “what’d I do now?” (Hilariously, last time this occurred it was “idk, what? I’m feeding the woodchuck”)
kittehserf – Hey, someone has to remind them that there’s more to life than hating on women on the Internet! 😛
auggziliary – Oh my gods, that’s the exact same lentil salad recipe that I made and am eating right now! 😛
I can attest to the fact that it is delicious. I didn’t put the dried fruit in mine, but it’s good on a bed of arugula with goat cheese on top. Even better if you let it sit in the fridge at least overnight.
I’m wondering if Dud’s *cough* wife *cough* knows he sits on his computer trying to insult strangers while basically admitting he’s not worth fucking for his own sake. I mean, what a classy fellow.
… The more I picture that, the more I think it’s more likely to be his mother whose the woman in the scenario, like Pell sitting doing his meltdowns before he gets told to turn the computer off and do his homework.
Alice — a Foghorn Leghorn sampler for you, note the frequency of the word boy
http://youtu.be/-LCsiWL6gn0
*who’s
Alice – LOL, I don’t think there is, for most of ’em.
Did everybody watch the video JenniferP posted?
If you didn’t, go back and watch it. That was AWESOME. The perfect response to PUA bullshit.