I’ve read and watched and listened to a lot of creepy pickup artist crap over the past few years while writing this blog, but in some ways this little video, from PUA “coach” Julian of Real Social Dynamics, one of the bigger and better known of the commercial “game” marketers, may well be the creepiest. Essentially, Julian provides tips to young men on how to “get” the girl of their dreams by temporarily driving her out of her mind.
No, really: he recommends that men overwhelm their female targets with confusing and contradictory stimuli to throw them so off-balance they’ll reflexively turn to their mental tormenters for support (and, maybe later, reward them with sex). This isn’t pick-up artistry so much as freak-out artistry.
The one thing about this video that is vaguely reassuring is that Julian’s examples of his technique in action are so crude and hamhanded I seriously doubt they’d actually work on anyone “in field,” as the PUAs like to say. What’s not so reassuring is that anyone would actually come up with something this predatory and perverse in the first place. Also, you know that at least a few of the video’s 32,000 viewers have actually tried out this technique on annoyed and bewildered women around the world. The world doesn’t really need any new ways for dudes to be assholes in clubs.
LMBAO wow, I never thought I’d see or hear a negative review of RSD Julien’s stuff.
He’s 1 of my favorite pickup coaches whom I’ve learned few things from like temporarily short-circuiting womens’ brains with mass stimuli.
Overall, I don’t think Julien is a bad teacher.
Go fuck yourself, Socialkenny. Both you and he are awful human beings.
…that actually makes it worse, Kenny.
You don’t even need to watch it to know he’s not in LA. the focus on him is tack-sharp, and the tree next to him is out of focus. In a still that might be the effect of some photo-shoppery, but absent some serious computing, and some serious technical chops (esp. with the way he’s bouncing up and down) it’s not happening.
I say this in part because there is no wind, and no sound of wind in his audio. He’s using a clip-on mike, and the sound is pretty constant.
He does appear to be outdoors, based on the reflection in his glasses but the light is odd. He’s in shadow, facing generally south. The light would have to be early morning; and it ought to change some in almost eight minutes.
The glasses don’t rule it out, completely. but I sort of doubt it. I certainly don’t believe the, “I was in Brazil” shit.
I wonder how MRAs would react to lady pickup artists who say things like, “Getting a man in bed is easy. All you have to do is short circuit his primitive reptilian brain with a low neckline.”
They’d be crying misandry to queendom come.
It’s terribly charming when a person admits that they have to resort to coercion to get women interested in them.
Kenny: Overall, I don’t think Julien is a bad teacher.
So you think mental abuse = good pick-up technique. You are an abusive personality. Good to know.
You know, during his little spiel, I found myself “jolting”… or “short circuiting”. No, really.
Oh wait. No. Nope. That was my body dry heaving. Simple mistake. Could happen to anyone.
I think he mistook “jolting” with recoiling in disgust… or perhaps flinching away from an obviously rapey person.
Socialkenny: Seriously? What Andrew Johnston said. The whole subtext is basically, a man can’t attract a woman on his own, but instead has to literally drive her temporarily insane. A woman cannot be in her right mind I order to be attracted to a man. This is as insulting to men as it is to women.
Mmmm…chocolate cat cookies:
http://www.mccormick.com/Recipes/Dessert/Black-Cat-Cookies
“…how came you eat an omen.” “Can,” not “came.” Autocorrect, it is not nice to make fun of an old lady like this.
Kennykins, I certainly hope you didn’t catch a left hook in the kisser from your experiment. In my experience, people tend to react violently to massive overstimulation.
Or they roll their eyes and chalk it up to you being a spaz. I certainly hope it was the latter in your case.
Wow, those guys really think women are inherently unintelligent. You will confuse her by making no sense, her ladybrains will have to reboot.
The thing is, gaslighting works (on both genders, in my experience) when you have something invested in the person, or when you trust someone. When it happens to men, the conclusion is that bitches be crazy (and evil). When it happens to a woman, it is pick up artistry and *not evil at all*.
Because rationalization.
This.
Maybe his hair is trying to overstimulate and confuse women who are trying to figure out what style it’s supposed to be (this is known as the “A Flock of Seagulls” technique).
Really?
@thenatfantastic
I meant socially awkward. I’m sorry. I won’t use that word again.
Cool, thanks.
katz: “…the Flock of Seagulls technique.” Pfffft. But if he’s going for that, he should at least have the guts to go full-out, instead of just half-assing it. 🙂
Wonderful 80’s New Wave weirdness!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiIpfWORQWhU
“I ran so far away” seems a pretty apt response to Julien.
Not every socially awkward person is a misogynistic asshole.
This blog condemns ableism and yet I’ve seen a few comments like that, were the socially unskilled are treated as if we were all evil woman-haters or something.
I’ve been told I’m weird, and I have to make and extra effort when talking to people. Sometimes I even screw up, but I don’t mean to and I’m working on it since I was a teenager.
I’m not angry, I’m just trying to say -in the most inefficient way (I’m sorry, I wish I could make my point in Spanish)- that being an entitled douchebag that thinks that women are less than human beings is not necessarily related to being socially awkward.
sparky: That video really doesn’t do it justice.
Ah, yes. It’s not that we find this kind of behavior radically annoying, off-putting and cringe-inducing, it’s *got* to be that our poor, illogical girly brains just can’t handle the totally alpha awesomeness.
@arubakaru: True, there’s plenty of socially confident and charismatic guys who are misogynistic shitpiles, but this guy here is exactly the kind of douchebag who makes a living preying on the socially unsure and awkward, so, c’mon. I think what they’re saying is this particular way of gaslighting seems like a way of hiding deliberate assholry behind a screen of social awkwardness.
Also, seriously, this is hands down one of the least ableist websites I’ve ever seen.
This Julian dude not only looks (and sounds creepy) but he also looks like he lives in that cult where wearing deodorant is forbidden. Nice article.
… Must thank you, because I have found the perfect youtube site to troll ^^.
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