I’ve read and watched and listened to a lot of creepy pickup artist crap over the past few years while writing this blog, but in some ways this little video, from PUA “coach” Julian of Real Social Dynamics, one of the bigger and better known of the commercial “game” marketers, may well be the creepiest. Essentially, Julian provides tips to young men on how to “get” the girl of their dreams by temporarily driving her out of her mind.
No, really: he recommends that men overwhelm their female targets with confusing and contradictory stimuli to throw them so off-balance they’ll reflexively turn to their mental tormenters for support (and, maybe later, reward them with sex). This isn’t pick-up artistry so much as freak-out artistry.
The one thing about this video that is vaguely reassuring is that Julian’s examples of his technique in action are so crude and hamhanded I seriously doubt they’d actually work on anyone “in field,” as the PUAs like to say. What’s not so reassuring is that anyone would actually come up with something this predatory and perverse in the first place. Also, you know that at least a few of the video’s 32,000 viewers have actually tried out this technique on annoyed and bewildered women around the world. The world doesn’t really need any new ways for dudes to be assholes in clubs.
Mmm, cucumber sandwiches are the bomb! I do mine with chevre, cracked black pepper (because, always! on everything!), pea shoots, and sometimes a tiny bit of olive oil.
Anyways, I’m for an apple, some tea and cookies, a movie with the husbutt, and bed! Catch y’all tomorrow 😀
Hubby has to make do with a battered frying pan, one little pot, and a collander.
Hopefully that will change when we settle down a bit.
I like cucumber with things in sandwiches. Cucumber and tuna … or almost any veggies and tuna …
One of my favourite lunches in summer is a sort-of tuna pasta salad: tinned tuna in olive oil mixed with cold pasta and mixed beans, mushrooms or whatever.
Nutmeg and cheese is awesome. Nutmeg is awesome in a lot of things actually.
(It goes into the fruit in my version of crumble.)
dusty – I need to get myself a rice cooker, both of my housemates have one and I hate asking my housemates to borrow theirs. Should ask my parents about that…
katz – Basically, it’s “I don’t care if you need to heat it up or bring utensils because I have access to a microwave and/or utensils if needed, just give me something that’s not full of liquid (because my lunchbox is in my freaking backpack with books and stuff) and that I can make ahead”. Would cucumber last that long outside of the fridge though? Depending on the day, I could be keeping it in my bag for at least three hours.
cloudiah – Ooh, a jar? I mean, yeah, BREAKABLE, but I probably have the right sized storage containers for it. 🙂
I’m a huge fan of that brand. I grew up on that stuff, especially the alfredo kind. Too bad it’s so damn hard to find here. v-v
Hey guys, I tried to post earlier using another e-mail address, because the one I usually enter (like right now) is connected to my blog, which isn’t up yet. I tried to post something serious about gaslighting & psychological torture, but it said that Dave had to moderate it. I wasn’t trying to trick anyone or upset anyone. It really was me. I just didn’t want the link to my blog when it isn’t up yet.
Oh great, now I’m going to imagine Judith talking like Duff Killigan.
Tristan, email David. (Click on his head in the upper right of the blog.) He’ll save you.
Tristan — wordpress’s intelligence is lacking and thus your new // different email was seen as a new commenter and tossed in newb mod queue, I’m sure it’ll be up as soon as David sees it!
Tristian – Yeah, changing emails is annoying. I changed mine because I realized that the email I originally used was attached to my IRL name, which, uh, yeah, not a good idea when you’re running a feminist blog while female. It should be fixed by tomorrow though.
katz – OH SHIT THE BLOCKQUOTE MONSTER ATE YOU. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!11!
Or that!
You said, “PUAs acknowledge who they are and what they do.” But this is only true to their friends or online audiences. They DO NOT inform the women they’re trying to “pick up.” If anyone should be informed about the goal of a PUA, it’s the woman he’s trying to sleep with!
Does an undercover officer reveal his or herself to his or her target? You don’t compare personal denial to not revealing your game to your target.
@Totally alfalfa
A weak cookie chaser like you would only make me laugh.
Ally, you’ve gone blonde! 🙂
/Captain Obvious
“Does an undercover officer reveal his or herself to his or her target? ”
So good-for-nothing thinks women being harassed are criminals.
Oh yeah, Tristan! You can remove the link to your not-yet-up blog in your profile settings! That way you won’t have to worry about it. You can put it back when you’re done. 🙂
Hey Worthless, tell us this: why is it so hard to be pleasant to someone you’re attracted to, and strike up a conversation (y’know, like actual people do), and take it graciously if they’re not interested in you? Why is it all about secretiveness and fuckwitted attempts at mind games and manipulation and trying to rape people? Are you so desperately lacking in basic human decency that this shit seems acceptable to you? Because if it does, you’d best lock yourself in your basement and get your food pushed in under the door forevermore, because you are not fit to be in any human society.
Yup. =P That’s Anna Zirski from Phantasy Star II. (I wish more people knew about that game…)
Hey, let’s run with it!
So PUAs commit entrapment by enticing women into acts they wouldn’t have otherwise committed? If PUAs follow the same rules as cops, successfully getting laid via PUA techniques is entrapment.
Food related — pecunium, I require that pesto recipe!
kittehs – Don’t you see yet? The reason why you have to trick women is because women aren’t human beings. Nope, they’re not human at all, but aliens who claim to be half of the population. And like an animal, you have to trick and train them to do what you want them to do, because they’re too stupid to figure it out themselves!
/sarcasm
Argenti, if it’s regular pesto, you don’t really need a recipe. It’s just basil, toasted pine nuts, garlic, olive oil, and parmesan. Mix with a little of the pasta water and VIOLA.
Alice – got it in one. I’m wondering if he’ll ever admit he thinks women are fuckthings.
Shows what a bizarro world he lives in, doesn’t it (and all the PUAs) where “stupid” means “smart enough not to have anything to do with him”.
Good: No, see, and big difference here: Police go under cover in order to collect evidence against dangerous criminals, in the hope that evidence will result in criminal prosecution and the removing of said dangerous criminals from the streets. PUA’s lie and manipulate and misrepresent themselves in order to trick women into sleeping with them. Do you not understand how those two things are not the same?
Alice: When I was in college, I lived on chicken Caesar wraps: put romaine lettuce, sliced cooked chicken breast, Parmesan cheese, croutons and Caesar dressing on a wrap.
LBT: In your hubby’s mac and cheese recipe, does he put the pepperoni in with the boiling pasta and veggies, or does he add it later (I think this has to be dinner tomorrow, it sounds so yummy).
But it wasn’t! Cuz he served it with meat (chicken) and t’was kosher! Which is kinda a side note to no lactose!