I’ve read and watched and listened to a lot of creepy pickup artist crap over the past few years while writing this blog, but in some ways this little video, from PUA “coach” Julian of Real Social Dynamics, one of the bigger and better known of the commercial “game” marketers, may well be the creepiest. Essentially, Julian provides tips to young men on how to “get” the girl of their dreams by temporarily driving her out of her mind.
No, really: he recommends that men overwhelm their female targets with confusing and contradictory stimuli to throw them so off-balance they’ll reflexively turn to their mental tormenters for support (and, maybe later, reward them with sex). This isn’t pick-up artistry so much as freak-out artistry.
The one thing about this video that is vaguely reassuring is that Julian’s examples of his technique in action are so crude and hamhanded I seriously doubt they’d actually work on anyone “in field,” as the PUAs like to say. What’s not so reassuring is that anyone would actually come up with something this predatory and perverse in the first place. Also, you know that at least a few of the video’s 32,000 viewers have actually tried out this technique on annoyed and bewildered women around the world. The world doesn’t really need any new ways for dudes to be assholes in clubs.
You can find the article here and, yeah, it’s many kinds of terrible. It starts with a content warning for “ginger stereotyping.” You know, in case you’re a ginger and you’re suffering from PTSD due to traumatic ginger-related experiences.
I think that’s when a lot of people decided that Shakesville was maybe kind of terrible.
augzzilliary: yep. I think his cultural ignorance touched a nerve; that or he is under the delusion that making an accusation = convicting me of something.
That I have credibility, and anyone who has two-synapses to rub together could have followed the link I gave to see the shape and frame and form of the insult I was using; and he couldn’t (which only made him look more the buffoon) is just grace note.
Fractured Leghorn
Argenti – OHHHH, I remember this guy! Barely! I miss Looney Toons!
The thing is, what Foghorn does mostly is, “son”. The use of boy is the variation on the false avuncularity.
kittehs – You’d never know. *nod*
RE: Argenti
I’m just amused he tried to claim MY parents were prostitutes. (What? He never specified my MOTHER.) He really should’ve tried that on someone else. *snrk*
Ginger oppression! My eyes just got lost under the couch again.
I actually quite liked Brave. I could have done without some of the mother/daughter dynamics, and Disney’s ideas about how to depict empowered women/girls are always a bit lulzy, but they did a better job with Brave than some of their other movies.
Then again, Scots who’re actually from Scotland tend to make a habit of lovingly mocking ourselves (see – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rab_C._Nesbitt). I love Pratchett’s Feegles, for example.
I only used boy a couple of times in my rant, but I managed to catch (as so many of the clueful noticed) the tone and tenor of Foghorn. What’s really funny is that Foghorn is the but of the actual jokes.
But Good wasn’t clever enough to try and use that against me. Nope, he had to swing for the fences with the non-credible racists charge.
Showing more about his inner thinking on race than it does mine.
Good really is exceptionally clueless, isn’t he? He could have called Pecunium’s comment ageist, which while I would have snickered would at least have got at the specific way he was being insulted (ie. Pecunium thinks he is an ignorant child) rather than reaching for some sort of race-related content that isn’t there because none of us have any idea what Good’s racial background is.
Lentil salad: I make mine with kale, change up the dressing depending on what’s around, and I like to add grilled chicken sausage. I would rather we all share our lentil salad and other recipes that make good leftovers, rather than ever reading another comment by LesserGood ever again.
Even sillier is goodfornothing’s claim of you being a racist when nobody here knows (or cares, I’d bet – I know I don’t) what his race is.
Ninjaed by Cassandra!
Here is the problem with our trolls, as I see it. They come in 3 main varieties.
1. Drive-by. Boring because they offer only very limited lulz.
2. Obsessive and really weird, thus entertaining, but also prone to saying things so offensive that David is eventually forced to ban them. Which, while justified, means they’re no longer around for us to chew on.
3. Tedious as fuck, and while somewhat offensive never quite offensive enough to get banned, so they linger forever. Good is an example of this kind of troll.
The problem is that we end up with more of 3 than of any other type because they never quite say anything horrible enough to get themselves banned but they’re obsessive enough about their hatred of feminism to stick around indefinitely. And did I mention that they’re really tedious?
I am so making that lentil salad for dinner.
cloudiah – Lentil salad always tastes better after a few days. Don’t you agree?
No. 3 is definitely the type we’re seeing now. Walls o’ text that are eye-glazingly dull.
Did that turd OF get himself banned eventually?
I want to make this because it looks like a decent chili I could make on a weeknight.
Lentil salad is much better the next day. Lots of soups are like that too.
I’ll have the bits of avocado on top. 😉
Ugh. Avocado is the fruit of Satan, imo, specifically designed to dilute flavor in any dish it’s added to.
(Also I really hate the texture.)
Jesus Christ re: that Brave post. That was going out of the way to get offended, and she didn’t even see the fucking movie.
Chili? *drools*
I’m going to steal that recipe now. *nodnod*
How do people feel about bay leaves? I’ve never been able to notice the difference whether I use them or leave them out of recipes. Is my palate just unsophisticated?
Also, I’ll take all of CassandraSays rejected avocados! One of my favorite breakfasts (or, to be honest, dinners when I’m feeling lazy) is smashed avocados on toast with a squeeze of lemon.
@ good
From a guy to another guy- im quite sure the majority of what you say is an outright lie and / or exxagerated claim. If you had any actualy meaningful interactions with women I doubt you would feel that way. Your “arguement style” involves taking one sentence out of context and then masking an insult as a fact. Probably because you have nothing to counteract the intelligent points the ladies on her make. Whats the matter, ego too weak to see these girls are easily twice as smart as you? Anyway I could easily disprove most of what you say and I”ll take you up that. But that would destroy your world view so your going to crawl back into what ever hole you came from and wont take me up on it.
RE: Kittehs
Did that turd OF get himself banned eventually?
Yup. I think some rapey comment finally got him banhammered.